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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 10, 2013 20:13:41 GMT -5
Yeah I actually thought it was nice to remember that Jack Torrance wasn't a monster, the hotel just turned him into one. Obviously this ending wouldn't have fit the Nicholson version because, as I pointed out, he was pretty much a raging beast from frame one. :/
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Dec 10, 2013 20:22:41 GMT -5
Yeah I actually thought it was nice to remember that Jack Torrance wasn't a monster, the hotel just turned him into one. Obviously this ending wouldn't have fit the Nicholson version because, as I pointed out, he was pretty much a raging beast from frame one. :/ Agreed. Nicholson was the antagonist in the Kubrick film, while the actual hotel was the antagonist in the Garris film. if you read the book, the mini-series is definitely the best version. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 10, 2013 21:09:26 GMT -5
*sigh*
Happy endings suck.
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 11, 2013 8:45:30 GMT -5
I still think it worked for that movie. It was clear that Jack was a loving father and Weber did a better job of portraying that so I can see why King (or whomever made the actual call on that particular production) decided to let the audience remember him that way. It didn't have to be as sappy and literal as it was, but I think it worked just like Nicholson's ending worked for that version.
But yeah, I get tired of people droning on about how brilliant the 1980 film is. A few scary scenes and nice ambiance are good but overacting, endless Steadicam shots and famous (corny) lines don't make up for everything else. Stephen King doesn't often hate movies based on his own books.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 11, 2013 9:49:43 GMT -5
Overacting? But that movie had Olive Oyl!
I'm just waiting for The Shining: The Definitive Edition where they get rid of all the lameass haunting stuff and just acknowledge that the Overlook is in a thinny 8)
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 11, 2013 11:17:20 GMT -5
Lol when Olive Oyl is dueling Scatman Crothers for the most tolerable performance in a film, something has gone horribly wrong.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Mar 18, 2014 17:56:13 GMT -5
Ordered The Stand a couple weeks ago and got it in today. Looking forward to getting started on it.
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Post by miketheratguy on Mar 18, 2014 20:01:32 GMT -5
Oh yeah, this thread. I forgot that it was about Stephen King.
I've owned "It" since the late 80s, skimmed it, and watched the movie a hundred times. I've never actually read the whole book though, and as it happens I just sat down to start doing so last night. I'm about 75 pages in, it's off to a good start so far.
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Post by WSS? on Mar 18, 2014 20:13:11 GMT -5
Never read a Stephen King book.
As for movies, loved The Green Mile, but I didn't get to finish it. Hated The Shining. Shawshank Redemption is on my to-watch list.
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Post by wildknight on Mar 18, 2014 20:19:03 GMT -5
Green Mile and Shawshank. Why am I not surprised?
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Mar 18, 2014 20:20:29 GMT -5
Oh yeah, this thread. I forgot that it was about Stephen King. I've owned "It" since the late 80s, skimmed it, and watched the movie a hundred times. I've never actually read the whole book though, and as it happens I just sat down to start doing so last night. I'm about 75 pages in, it's off to a good start so far. Ah, yes, my favorite Stephen King book I've ever read. I highly recommend sticking it out. If you wish to discuss it anytime with me talk away or PM me. I'ts been about 7 years since I read it completely but I've read over several parts of the book after finishing it. |
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Post by Rush on Mar 18, 2014 20:21:35 GMT -5
My brother a filmmaker desperately wants to make the stand on hbo
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Post by wildknight on Mar 18, 2014 20:22:19 GMT -5
My brother a filmmaker desperately wants to make the stand on hbo It was already made. It wasn't great, but it doesn't need remaking. |
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Post by Rush on Mar 18, 2014 20:23:33 GMT -5
I know but he wants to remake it on hbo. Keeps feeling me about the trash can man
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Mar 18, 2014 20:23:49 GMT -5
Yea I thought the original mini-series was okay. I've read the first 700 pages or so of the Stand a few years back and for the most part it seemed to include everything necessary.
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Post by wildknight on Mar 18, 2014 20:24:34 GMT -5
The Stand wasn't all that interesting to me until I started to understand King's metaplot from The Gunslinger books.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Mar 18, 2014 20:27:47 GMT -5
I'm definitely getting around to the Gunslinger books at some point. Since I'm finishing college soon I wanted to get back into reading and I decided to start with his first published book and read from there but I had already read Carrie, Salem's Lot, and The Shining so I ordered The Stand.
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Post by wildknight on Mar 18, 2014 20:29:57 GMT -5
Salem's Lot and The Stand have direct ties to the Gunslinger books. Carrie and The Shining elude to elements of the metaplot, but don't actually touch on it much.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Mar 18, 2014 20:34:19 GMT -5
Very interested in getting into the metaplot. Salem's Lot was pretty great from what I remember. I liked Carrie alright. The Shining was good as well I just read it back in October.
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Post by miketheratguy on Mar 20, 2014 20:36:54 GMT -5
Oh yeah, this thread. I forgot that it was about Stephen King. I've owned "It" since the late 80s, skimmed it, and watched the movie a hundred times. I've never actually read the whole book though, and as it happens I just sat down to start doing so last night. I'm about 75 pages in, it's off to a good start so far. Ah, yes, my favorite Stephen King book I've ever read. I highly recommend sticking it out. If you wish to discuss it anytime with me talk away or PM me. I'ts been about 7 years since I read it completely but I've read over several parts of the book after finishing it. I didn't get much reading in over the last couple of days so I'm probably 150 pages in now. I forgot that King is such a prolific writer that he often stops to provide lengthy descriptions about subjects that don't necessarily need them (page after page were spent establishing the fact that Stan, who dies almost as quickly as he's introduced, was a bright guy with a successful career) but so far I'm enjoying the book. I understand that backstory is important, especially in a book so focused on the characters, but there were times were I had to fight my "fiction urge" to skip a few pages and get to the point. I'm liking everything else, the murder of Georgie goes the way I remember it but I forgot about some of the other murders that happen around the town which are described very compellingly. The next chapter is about the summer of '58 and that's one of the parts I've most been looking forward to being that it was my favorite part of the miniseries. |
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