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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 16, 2013 11:20:11 GMT -5
Because its' Daniel Bryan, the guy who doesn't draw. I don't know how one measures "draw" in a modern context, but the PPVs he Main Evented were some of the better sellers, and his merch sales have consistently been top 4... typically he's #3 right behind Cena and Punk. I honestly couldn't tell you. I'm still trying to figure out whether that whole alleged "we're blaming you because our PPV numbers are low" shpiel was just the WWE trolling. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 16, 2013 11:23:17 GMT -5
I don't know how one measures "draw" in a modern context, but the PPVs he Main Evented were some of the better sellers, and his merch sales have consistently been top 4... typically he's #3 right behind Cena and Punk. I honestly couldn't tell you. I'm still trying to figure out whether that whole alleged "we're blaming you because our PPV numbers are low" shpiel was just the WWE trolling. I wouldn't call it "trolling" so much as supporting the new kayfabe. Say what you want about the WWE, they've become incredibly adept at working social media and the dirt sheets to get the public to believe the story they're pitching. |
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 16, 2013 11:35:52 GMT -5
They really have. I don't know if it's wise though (which isn't a lead-in statement, I honestly feel uncertain). On one hand it's good to have your finger on the pulse but at the same time it seems like they should be more concerned with putting forth what they themselves feel is a solid product regardless of what the fans think.
It seems like they go back and forth- on one hand they push the hell out of Cena despite the fact that half of the fans despise him (and really, regardless of what he does bring to their coffers I don't understand the mentality of being complacent with such a sharply divided level of enthusiasm toward the face of the company) and on the other hand they're so concerned with what the fans think that they're willing to go through what seems like great effort to dupe them, subvert their expectations or supposedly make entire programming changes based on what they think is going to happen.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 16, 2013 11:50:37 GMT -5
Time will tell if it's the right thing to do, but wrestling had to evolve somehow. It was becoming impossible to maintain traditional kayfabe,and social media is a fact of life these days (beyond the fact that I think WWE just loves to pump those meaningless statistics about how many Twitter followers they have and such)
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 16, 2013 11:54:16 GMT -5
That's one of the reasons I've stayed gone. Even if the in-ring product is great it's still very difficult for me to stomach the obnoxiousness of social media pimping. I really do hate it that much.
I remember listening to one of Russo's shoots and he completely championed the "cater to the fans on the internet" model. We saw both ends of that kind of thinking. Though I do wonder if the typical "IWC" existed in the same fashion at that time. I bet it did.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 16, 2013 11:56:54 GMT -5
I don't think they do cater to the IWC, to be honest. If anything, I think Vince and HHH get their giggles shining the IWC on.
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 16, 2013 12:01:54 GMT -5
Trolling, then.  |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 16, 2013 12:08:08 GMT -5
Trolling, then. Touche' |
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Post by WSS? on Dec 16, 2013 13:23:37 GMT -5
If WWE releases ADR, I'll start watching. If not,
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