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Post by wildknight on Dec 31, 2013 23:46:45 GMT -5
... it doesn't take godlike strength to lift Mark Henry into F5 position. I'm tired of explaining this.
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Post by justinlynch3 on Jan 1, 2014 0:13:21 GMT -5
... it doesn't take godlike strength to lift Mark Henry into F5 position. I'm tired of explaining this. Of course not, but WWE wants us to believe it does. |
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 1, 2014 3:04:36 GMT -5
... it doesn't take godlike strength to lift Mark Henry into F5 position. I'm tired of explaining this. Lex Luger said that giving Paul Wight the torture rack was a dream. Said that Paul got right up there, did all the work. |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 1, 2014 5:10:35 GMT -5
... it doesn't take godlike strength to lift Mark Henry into F5 position. I'm tired of explaining this. Lex Luger said that giving Paul Wight the torture rack was a dream. Said that Paul got right up there, did all the work. I'm not sure how one does all the work of being held across the shoulders 8) I'm not denying that it's absolutely true... just that it's some element of how one "takes" a wrestling move that I don't quite understand. What I do know is that a grown man lifting 450 lbs. on his shoulders is not a feat of strength, its a feat of mediocrity. |
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Post by ethanm1834 on Jan 1, 2014 9:37:12 GMT -5
Ah been gone for a week or so and Brock Lesnar does something we've all seen before. Lift Mark Henry....impressive. I suppose next is to lift the Big Show? That will really show us you're incredibly strong. Daniel Bryan tryign to give a rub to Bray Wyatt, that could work and then again that could turn DB irrelevant. Either way is fine with me. As DB is boring on the mic and being over for chanting a three letter word annoys me.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 1, 2014 9:47:28 GMT -5
... he's not Over for chanting a three letter word. He's Over for the fact that he's the most exciting ring worker on television right now.
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Post by ethanm1834 on Jan 1, 2014 10:07:40 GMT -5
... he's not Over for chanting a three letter word. He's Over for the fact that he's the most exciting ring worker on television right now. I disagree. Call it lack of faith in the casual fan base, I just don't see it that way. |
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Post by monkeywool on Jan 1, 2014 10:24:51 GMT -5
Besides, the whole going to the Wyatts thing is clearly a swerve on his part. He'll kick the crap out of Bray as soon as they are alone.
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Post by ethanm1834 on Jan 1, 2014 10:39:19 GMT -5
Besides, the whole going to the Wyatts thing is clearly a swerve on his part. He'll kick the crap out of Bray as soon as they are alone. He had him in the ring, he could have taken him apart. It could very well be a swerve, but to me it would just be indicative of them not knowing what they want to do about the Bryan situation. AkA it would feel like this was something to do. |
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Post by monkeywool on Jan 1, 2014 10:41:55 GMT -5
Besides, the whole going to the Wyatts thing is clearly a swerve on his part. He'll kick the crap out of Bray as soon as they are alone. He had him in the ring, he could have taken him apart. It could very well be a swerve, but to me it would just be indicative of them not knowing what they want to do about the Bryan situation. AkA it would feel like this was something to do. Had him in the ring after he just got decimated by both Luke Harper and Eric Rowan. If Bryan had suddenly hulked up and destroyed Wyatt in the ring after that it would not only go against Bryan's character but it would make Wyatt look exceptionally weak. |
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Post by ethanm1834 on Jan 1, 2014 10:47:43 GMT -5
He had him in the ring, he could have taken him apart. It could very well be a swerve, but to me it would just be indicative of them not knowing what they want to do about the Bryan situation. AkA it would feel like this was something to do. Had him in the ring after he just got decimated by both Luke Harper and Eric Rowan. If Bryan had suddenly hulked up and destroyed Wyatt in the ring after that it would not only go against Bryan's character but it would make Wyatt look exceptionally weak. There is plenty of ways to handle this. Instead it makes him look weak if he decides he'll fight him another night after being fresh. The man that tormented you for weeks. Kidnapped you? You finally get your hands on him you're going to join him in a swerve to beat him up later? Then Daniel Bryan must have the emotions of some wonderful mechanical man, because that seems highly unlikely. |
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Post by monkeywool on Jan 1, 2014 10:57:00 GMT -5
Had him in the ring after he just got decimated by both Luke Harper and Eric Rowan. If Bryan had suddenly hulked up and destroyed Wyatt in the ring after that it would not only go against Bryan's character but it would make Wyatt look exceptionally weak. There is plenty of ways to handle this. Instead it makes him look weak if he decides he'll fight him another night after being fresh. The man that tormented you for weeks. Kidnapped you? You finally get your hands on him you're going to join him in a swerve to beat him up later? Then Daniel Bryan must have the emotions of some wonderful mechanical man, because that seems highly unlikely. Not at all. Just shows his smarts, he knew after being decimated that he wasn't going to do anything against Bray so why not live to fight another day. I'm pretty much certain by or at the royal rumble he'll have turned on Bray and taken him out. |
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Post by justinlynch3 on Jan 1, 2014 11:51:48 GMT -5
He had him in the ring, he could have taken him apart. It could very well be a swerve, but to me it would just be indicative of them not knowing what they want to do about the Bryan situation. AkA it would feel like this was something to do. Had him in the ring after he just got decimated by both Luke Harper and Eric Rowan. If Bryan had suddenly hulked up and destroyed Wyatt in the ring after that it would not only go against Bryan's character but it would make Wyatt look exceptionally weak. Plus Harper and Rowan did recover, re-enter the ring, and beat the snot out of Bryan 2 on 1. |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 1, 2014 16:30:12 GMT -5
I'm not sure if it's a swerve or not, but I do think it's silly to assume that the fans are into Bryan for a catchphrase. Lots of guys have catchphrases. The audience loves Bryan because he dumbed down his arsenal and runs around the ring like a lunatic. Even his Finisher went from a great "out of anywhere" submission hold that was very dramatic to a glorified superkick (superknee? I think I've coined a new term!).
He realized that the reason that Shawn Michaels will always be better remembered than Bret Hart is because Shawn Michaels didn't care about wrestling 8)
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 1, 2014 19:36:38 GMT -5
Yes, change somebody's finisher and it means that they just don't want to show their skill. I agree with you, WK.
That was sarcasm.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 1, 2014 20:41:10 GMT -5
Yes, change somebody's finisher and it means that they just don't want to show their skill. I agree with you, WK. That was sarcasm. ... if you think all he's done is change his Finisher, you haven't been paying attention. He's dropped the entire technical aspect of his arsenal. I actually said that in my post. All he does now is run around the ring like a madman. Bryan wasn't great because he had 27 moves that involved him running across the ring before he delivered them... he was great because he could work at a variety of paces, often within the same match, and give the audience a fuller experience. If you seriously see no difference between Daniel Bryan now and Daniel Bryan a few years ago, I pity you. |
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Post by justinlynch3 on Jan 2, 2014 15:08:21 GMT -5
Yes, change somebody's finisher and it means that they just don't want to show their skill. I agree with you, WK. That was sarcasm. ... if you think all he's done is change his Finisher, you haven't been paying attention. He's dropped the entire technical aspect of his arsenal. I actually said that in my post. All he does now is run around the ring like a madman. Bryan wasn't great because he had 27 moves that involved him running across the ring before he delivered them... he was great because he could work at a variety of paces, often within the same match, and give the audience a fuller experience. If you seriously see no difference between Daniel Bryan now and Daniel Bryan a few years ago, I pity you. Byran is better as a high flyer. He was struggling as a technical wrestler and the live crowds from what I remember usually wasn't in to him. He changed his character some, adopted a fast past style and now people love him. I'll admit I didn't give a damn about Bryan when he was with AJ and champion, but I enjoy him a lot more now. And he still uses his submission as well as the running knee. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 2, 2014 15:11:26 GMT -5
... if you think all he's done is change his Finisher, you haven't been paying attention. He's dropped the entire technical aspect of his arsenal. I actually said that in my post. All he does now is run around the ring like a madman. Bryan wasn't great because he had 27 moves that involved him running across the ring before he delivered them... he was great because he could work at a variety of paces, often within the same match, and give the audience a fuller experience. If you seriously see no difference between Daniel Bryan now and Daniel Bryan a few years ago, I pity you. He was struggling as a technical wrestler I stopped reading right here. Bryan is one of the best, if not THE best technical wrestler of our generation. |
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Post by WSS? on Jan 2, 2014 15:12:31 GMT -5
I think Justin means that crowds don't like technical wrestlers, which is 100% right.
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Post by justinlynch3 on Jan 2, 2014 17:03:19 GMT -5
He was struggling as a technical wrestler I stopped reading right here. Bryan is one of the best, if not THE best technical wrestler of our generation. I never said he wasn't. What I meant was he was struggling to get over. He's far more popular now with this fast pace style then he ever was before as a technical wrestler. |
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