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Post by wildknight on Mar 17, 2014 15:30:07 GMT -5
As a wrestler? Really? You really believe he had great matches and deserved to be a World Champion? Okay, pop quiz... without looking it up, name one World Title caliber match that Mick Foley ever had.
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Post by wildknight on Mar 17, 2014 15:32:48 GMT -5
Foley is a good crash dummy........... Exactly. His big moments were him falling off of stuff. Go re-watch his first World Title win. The "live" audience at RAW barely cared about the match at all until Stone Cold came out. This is not about me "disliking" Foley (although I do). I dislike Stone Cold intensely, but I acknowledge that he was a World Title caliber performer. Even though he wrestled like $#@!, he owned audiences weekly. Stone Cold was as legit a world champion as Hogan ever was. Foley is different. Foley was not a great talker, Foley did not have entertaining spots, and Foley was not capable of drawing an audience in on his own. Foley was all about stunts and gimmicks like bumping on thumb tacks. $#@! Foley.
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Mar 17, 2014 15:38:42 GMT -5
Foley is a good crash dummy........... Exactly. His big moments were him falling off of stuff. Go re-watch his first World Title win. The "live" audience at RAW barely cared about the match at all until Stone Cold came out. This is not about me "disliking" Foley (although I do). I dislike Stone Cold intensely, but I acknowledge that he was a World Title caliber performer. Even though he wrestled like $#@!, he owned audiences weekly. Stone Cold was as legit a world champion as Hogan ever was. Foley is different. Foley was not a great talker, Foley did not have entertaining spots, and Foley was not capable of drawing an audience in on his own. Foley was all about stunts and gimmicks like bumping on thumb tacks. $#@! Foley. U just jelly. Maybe u should go to jelly school.
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Post by setokaiba on Mar 17, 2014 15:40:38 GMT -5
When it comes to wrestling skills, I only have issues with people who legitimately harm their opponents. *COUGH*Brock Lesnar*COUGH* Other than that, my standards aren't high. Might explain why I like Foley. cactus jack shall reign supreme! ...Nevermind, I hate Foley. Hipster
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Post by setokaiba on Mar 17, 2014 15:41:15 GMT -5
I love Foley as a talker but in the ring hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nope.
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Post by wildknight on Mar 17, 2014 15:41:50 GMT -5
When it comes to wrestling skills, I only have issues with people who legitimately harm their opponents. *COUGH*Brock Lesnar*COUGH* Other than that, my standards aren't high. Might explain why I like Foley. ...Nevermind, I hate Foley. Hipster Hating stuff because stewie likes it is a legitimate form of logic.
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Post by wildknight on Mar 17, 2014 15:42:17 GMT -5
I love Foley as a talker but in the ring hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nope. As a talker? Why? Where's the legendary Foley promo that I've somehow missed?
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Post by stewie34732 on Mar 17, 2014 15:44:10 GMT -5
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Mar 17, 2014 15:45:45 GMT -5
I love Foley as a talker but in the ring hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nope. As a talker? Why? Where's the legendary Foley promo that I've somehow missed? Probably at his HoF induction speech.
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Mar 17, 2014 15:45:52 GMT -5
I love Foley as a talker but in the ring hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nope. As a talker? Why? Where's the legendary Foley promo that I've somehow missed? Here you go
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Post by wildknight on Mar 17, 2014 15:47:09 GMT -5
As a talker? Why? Where's the legendary Foley promo that I've somehow missed? Here you go .Hennig sucking doesn't make Foley any better 8)
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Mar 17, 2014 15:52:26 GMT -5
.Hennig sucking doesn't make Foley any better 8) He doesn't suck that badly anymore, thankfully.
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Post by setokaiba on Mar 17, 2014 15:52:52 GMT -5
I love Foley as a talker but in the ring hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nope. As a talker? Why? Where's the legendary Foley promo that I've somehow missed? He like his promos that doesn't mean he had a ton legendary promos. You like Miz as a talker and he hasn't had a legendary moment yet.
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Post by setokaiba on Mar 17, 2014 15:58:42 GMT -5
Shelton, Haas, Swagger, and Angle he is not.
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Post by stewie34732 on Mar 17, 2014 16:02:15 GMT -5
Shelton, Haas, Swagger, and Angle he is not. do your research seto
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Post by wildknight on Mar 17, 2014 16:04:12 GMT -5
As a talker? Why? Where's the legendary Foley promo that I've somehow missed? He like his promos that doesn't mean he had a ton legendary promos. You like Miz as a talker and he hasn't had a legendary moment yet. Disagree. Miz has torn it up on the mic. His promos when he was doing all of the "face of the company" duties were brilliant.
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Mar 17, 2014 16:04:42 GMT -5
I have to say while I'm watching MITB 13. Curtis Axel isn't being used right. The guy had a great match vs Miz and really took off when WWE finally booked him correctly. Give Axel a shot in the mid card WWE.
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Mar 17, 2014 16:05:41 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys, but Miz as WWE Champion is one of the weirdest choices by the company. Ever.
Like, between Miz and Foley, WTF were they thinking. Oh, and didn't Vince hold it too?
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Mar 17, 2014 16:07:32 GMT -5
Why all of the hate for Miz? The guy was amazing on the mic (by the way, many of his promos, even his short ones, were very noteworthy) and wasn't bad in the ring. He was pretty decent for being somebody that came from Real World....(?) I think it's that show.
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Post by wildknight on Mar 17, 2014 16:08:18 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys, but Miz as WWE Champion is one of the weirdest choices by the company. Ever. Like, between Miz and Foley, WTF were they thinking. Oh, and didn't Vince hold it too? Miz was a great Champion. He did all of the TV spots that the company wanted/needed, got Heat like crazy, and basically was everything you could ever ask from a "placeholder" Champ, which was all he was ever meant to be. If you can name anybody who ever worked harder for the company knowing full well that as soon as the Main Eventers were all healthy again, he was going to be sent back to the midcard (or lower) to rot, go ahead and name them.
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