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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 22, 2014 19:50:47 GMT -5
I've been a push over my entire life. I pretty much did everything in all group projects in grade school it was my reputation. I went to a small school with only about 15 in my class and everybody wanted me as a partner to do all the work and basically I did. That reputation spread into high school when I got there. In college though, it was all new faces and it gave me a chance to have a new reputation. I still have the reputation of a hard worker but when there is a group project I'm the guy who now always gets placed with some random group because I don't actually know anybody and I rarely do anything now, in group projects anyway.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 19:53:52 GMT -5
I've been a push over my entire life. I pretty much did everything in all group projects in grade school it was my reputation. I went to a small school with only about 15 in my class and everybody wanted me as a partner to do all the work and basically I did. That reputation spread into high school when I got there. In college though, it was all new faces and it gave me a chance to have a new reputation. I still have the reputation of a hard worker but when there is a group project I'm the guy who now always gets placed with some random group because I don't actually know anybody and I rarely do anything now, in group projects anyway. I'm not a push over. I WANT to do the work. I jump in when either I know that I could do a better job, or when I'm not entirely certain that the other people would actually do their work.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 22, 2014 20:03:07 GMT -5
Make no mistake, one of the reasons I did all the work is because I wanted a good grade and felt others may mess it up or not put in as much effort as I could. In college, most seem smarter and want to work harder, plus there are actually fewer group projects in college anyway, at least from my experience.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 20:05:59 GMT -5
Make no mistake, one of the reasons I did all the work is because I wanted a good grade and felt others may mess it up or not put in as much effort as I could. In college, most seem smarter and want to work harder, plus there are actually fewer group projects in college anyway, at least from my experience. I actually don't care about the grade. All I care about is my pride. I don't want to be associated with the kind of crap that some people I have grouped with spew...
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 22, 2014 20:10:25 GMT -5
I busted my a** to keep good grades, still do. I've always been really hard on myself. My parents cared less about my grades than I did. Both my parents had trouble in school and both always told me. "If I couldn't do it, I can't punish you if you can't do it." Regardless, if I ever got a C or lower on anything, I always felt horrible.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 20:11:27 GMT -5
I busted my a** to keep good grades, still do. Why?
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 22, 2014 20:14:47 GMT -5
As I said, I'm hard on myself and if I get anything lower than a B I always feel as if I could have done better. I can't stand not to do my best.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 20:17:13 GMT -5
As I said, I'm hard on myself and if I get anything lower than a B I always feel as if I could have done better. I can't stand not to do my best. I don't understand why you care so much about your grades. They're meaningless. Focus on learning about your career, don't worry so much about your grades. Do enough to get by and obtain a diploma for your career. Don't push yourself so much for such a meaningless letter.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 22, 2014 20:23:05 GMT -5
They are meaningless in grade school. In high they count for a bit more but only for certain areas. For example, in Kentucky, they have KEYS money which is money you get toward college based off how good your GPA is. Other than that though, your right it is meaningless. In college, your GPA can count on whether you get a job over someone else once your out of college. Though it usually has more to do with how much extra curricular stuff you did. So yea, for the most part your right, but it's the effort, as I said If I'm not giving my best effort it kills me, that's just the mentality that I have, regardless of what it is or how important it is.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 22, 2014 20:24:33 GMT -5
You make a good point though, most of the stuff you learn in school anyway is pointless, school shouldn't be subject based it should be career based. At least I think so.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 20:28:31 GMT -5
They are meaningless in grade school. In high they count for a bit more but only for certain areas. For example, in Kentucky, they have KEYS money which is money you get toward college based off how good your GPA is. Other than that though, your right it is meaningless. In college, your GPA can count on whether you get a job over someone else once your out of college. Though it usually has more to do with how much extra curricular stuff you did. So yea, for the most part your right, but it's the effort, as I said If I'm not giving my best effort it kills me, that's just the mentality that I have, regardless of what it is or how important it is. Eh... I don't care about my grades, in fact I'm not even certain I'll go to college yet(Although my parents would be mad if I didn't). I get all the stuff about how it important it is to get a job and yadda yadda, but I already know what career I want, and I don't need a college diploma. I am dead set on becoming a writer. It's what I want to do, and I don't plan on doing anything else. I would kill myself(Literally) if I was forced into a monotonous corporate job. I want to be a writer, and if I have to suffer through poverty, stress, and loneliness while I'm at it that's exactly what I'll do.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 22, 2014 20:38:43 GMT -5
Well, I wish you the best man. I would recommend maybe a college degree in English though it isn't necessary at all. You certainly seem like a smart enough guy anyway. Writing is something I've pondered too, in fact I have two college professors that have really pushed me to be a non-fiction historical writer. I would rather write fiction though and have told them that. I'm not one to usually toot my own horn but I thought I wrote a pretty decent paper last semester over Martin Luther King Jr. and his role in the Montgomery Bus Boycott.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 22, 2014 20:39:56 GMT -5
Grades aren't meaningless......
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 20:41:21 GMT -5
Grades aren't meaningless...... They actually are. They mean very little in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 22, 2014 20:41:48 GMT -5
i'm gonna take an ass kicking for saying this..but Bray Wyatt could be this generation's Bruiser Brody.. ... except that Brody could wrestle. And had intense charisma. And wasn't a fat worthless pud.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 22, 2014 20:44:58 GMT -5
Grades aren't meaningless...... They are, actually. Only one third of all college graduates will earn more than their counterparts with only a high school diploma over their lifetimes and, of those, a portion will do so in jobs that they could have gotten without a college degree anyway. Grades end up being a meaningful part of life for approximately 8% of the population. Their supposed importance is a fabrication of an educational system that uses them to reinforce indoctrination.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 22, 2014 20:49:05 GMT -5
Grades aren't meaningless...... They are, actually. Only one third of all college graduates will earn more than their counterparts with only a high school diploma over their lifetimes and, of those, a portion will do so in jobs that they could have gotten without a college degree anyway. Grades end up being a meaningful part of life for approximately 8% of the population. Their supposed importance is a fabrication of an educational system that uses them to reinforce indoctrination. Well said. In all honesty, I almost regret going to college. The only reason I don't entirely is that my work study jobs I've had as well as the summer jobs have made me a more mature person, that and the fact I can write pretty good papers now.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 20:52:23 GMT -5
They are, actually. Only one third of all college graduates will earn more than their counterparts with only a high school diploma over their lifetimes and, of those, a portion will do so in jobs that they could have gotten without a college degree anyway. Grades end up being a meaningful part of life for approximately 8% of the population. Their supposed importance is a fabrication of an educational system that uses them to reinforce indoctrination. Well said. In all honesty, I almost regret going to college. The only reason I don't entirely is that my work study jobs I've had as well as the summer jobs have made me a more mature person, that and the fact I can write pretty good papers now. I honestly am not sure how good I am as a writer. According to all my teachers and fellow classmates I have a good "voice" when I write. Well that's what the teachers said, my fellow classmates just say that there's something about how I write my stuff that makes it good, but that they can't really explain what it is. I have no clue what they're talking about...
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Post by wildknight on Jan 22, 2014 20:55:16 GMT -5
There are millions of talented writers in the world. The VAST majority of them will never make a dime at it.
... actually, the same is true of any artistic medium.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 22, 2014 20:55:30 GMT -5
Well I used to write pretty crappy in high school. I did the work and usually got a good grade because I turned it in. When I got to college I met a professor who thought I had potential and would flat out tell me that I sucked if I did. She's really taught me a lot in terms of writing historically.
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