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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 24, 2014 22:20:21 GMT -5
The acting is pretty bad at some points though with most of it being extremely exaggerated. It might be done on purpose to emphasize the character personalities though...
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 8:38:04 GMT -5
The acting is pretty bad at some points though with most of it being extremely exaggerated. It might be done on purpose to emphasize the character personalities though... It's a generic Vietnam series. What did you expect? |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 25, 2014 10:09:40 GMT -5
The acting is pretty bad at some points though with most of it being extremely exaggerated. It might be done on purpose to emphasize the character personalities though... It's a generic Vietnam series. What did you expect? How many generic Vietnam series do you know that have an episode about three of the platoon members trecking across Vietnam after a helicopter crash while taking care of a newborn baby, huh? The characters in the show are pretty generic though... There's the sergeant who's not very bright but is often the voice of reason among his men, also doesn't have respect for the chain of command. There's the lieutenant that's often hot-headed and isn't very respected by the other men, but also happens to be a really nice guy under certain circumstances. There's the captain who almost never appears, and when he does appear it takes you a while to figure out who he is because of his scarce appearances. There's Johnson who's character is that of a nice guy. There's Ruiz who's a Puerto Rican that acts like a badass but often times proves that he's not really as tough as he tries to act. There's Baker who's a typically dumb surfer dude. There's Taylor who's kind of an asshole. There's Horn who hates violence yet often times has to kill to save the lives of the others. Percell is another typical nice guy. And then there's the doc who is the medic of the group(obviously), he doesn't get much focus though. |
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Post by wildknight on May 25, 2014 11:08:12 GMT -5
I haven't seen it so I can't say if it's generic or not. I will say that the Hollywood treatment of Vietnam (including when it's disguised as the Korean War...) tends to be very very very one-sided and predictable.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 25, 2014 11:13:34 GMT -5
I haven't seen it so I can't say if it's generic or not. I will say that the Hollywood treatment of Vietnam (including when it's disguised as the Korean War...) tends to be very very very one-sided and predictable. I'm not really sure if it's completely against Vietnam or not. The characters constantly point out how terrible it is to be in Vietnam, but then there's episodes that serve to point out that the war wasn't completely bad and that we actually did some good while we were over there. |
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Post by wildknight on May 25, 2014 11:14:58 GMT -5
I haven't seen it so I can't say if it's generic or not. I will say that the Hollywood treatment of Vietnam (including when it's disguised as the Korean War...) tends to be very very very one-sided and predictable. I'm not really sure if it's completely against Vietnam or not. The characters constantly point out how terrible it is to be in Vietnam, but then there's episodes that serve to point out that the war wasn't completely bad and that we actually did some good while we were over there. Well that would certainly break the standard Hollywood mold. I wonder how they got away with crapping all over the medias preferred narrative for that war. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 25, 2014 11:20:40 GMT -5
I'm not really sure if it's completely against Vietnam or not. The characters constantly point out how terrible it is to be in Vietnam, but then there's episodes that serve to point out that the war wasn't completely bad and that we actually did some good while we were over there. Well that would certainly break the standard Hollywood mold. I wonder how they got away with crapping all over the medias preferred narrative for that war. I'd say the episode that best showcases that would be Dislocations in which the army is ordered to relocate a village of people. The episode does keep with the show's usual criticisms of the politicians and generals but it also has the soldiers risk their lives to protect the villagers they were ordered to relocate, even when they had orders to abandon them. That was another episode that I really liked. |
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Post by wildknight on May 25, 2014 11:24:39 GMT -5
I have no problem with villainizing the politicians of the Vietnam era. They deserve it. Their behavior, from Kennedy to Nixon, was unforgivable. They sent soldiers into the field knowing full well that they didn't intend to win the war. That's disgusting.
... blaming Generals is a whole other story, and is standard issue Hollywood nonsense.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 25, 2014 11:27:07 GMT -5
I have no problem with villainizing the politicians of the Vietnam era. They deserve it. Their behavior, from Kennedy to Nixon, was unforgivable. They sent soldiers into the field knowing full well that they didn't intend to win the war. That's disgusting. ... blaming Generals is a whole other story, and is standard issue Hollywood nonsense. They do however defend the soldiers at every given opportunity, but yes they do criticize the generals and the chain of command in general(no pun intended) quite a bit. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 25, 2014 14:37:54 GMT -5
I think I found my new favorite episodes of the series in Under Siege and Soldiers. Under Siege is the most anti-chain of command of the episodes so far but the end battle was absolutely awesome. Soldiers dealt with the psychological problems that soldiers faced. It also went the most in depth with the series' theme of peace vs war, at least out of the episodes that I've watched(Although Sitting Ducks was a fairly close runner up[Sitting Ducks dealt with the Buddhist monks rather than those in the US who were arguing for peace]). It was really well done.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 25, 2014 20:12:40 GMT -5
Finally finished the first season.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 26, 2014 13:14:26 GMT -5
The second season is terrible compared to the first season...
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Post by wildknight on May 31, 2014 14:45:18 GMT -5
Started watching East Bound and Down because; Joey. It's really not that funny of a show, but Will Ferrell's Ric Flair parody character is amazing.
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Post by Rush on May 31, 2014 15:33:00 GMT -5
Started watching East Bound and Down because; Joey. It's really not that funny of a show, but Will Ferrell's Ric Flair parody character is amazing.  |
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Post by wildknight on May 31, 2014 18:22:18 GMT -5
What're you flippin' me off for? I'm watching a show on your recommendation. At minimum, you should take that as a sign that I respect your opinion. Very occasionally.
(I just got to the first episode season where he finds out that his deal with Tampa isn't real, my favorite episode so far)
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Post by WSS? on May 31, 2014 18:31:42 GMT -5
...Is he flipping the bird while wearing the American flag as a cape while fireworks go off behind him at a baseball stadium?
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Post by wildknight on May 31, 2014 18:50:28 GMT -5
...Is he flipping the bird while wearing the American flag as a cape while fireworks go off behind him at a baseball stadium? Yes. He's a foul-mouthed former professional baseball pitcher who is a complete loser but doesn't really grasp that he's a loser most of the time. He generally covers up his inadequacy with a whole bunch of bravado (like the middle fingers and cape there). |
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Post by Rush on May 31, 2014 20:34:02 GMT -5
My opinions matter.
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Post by wildknight on May 31, 2014 20:34:33 GMT -5
To whom? (Had to. You left it hanging out there) |
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Post by Rush on May 31, 2014 20:36:10 GMT -5
Mommy and daddy
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