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Post by stewie34732 on Feb 18, 2014 18:41:09 GMT -5
my friend chris just told me   Mother of god.  :rotfl: not the chris we know from the forums |
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Post by stewie34732 on Feb 18, 2014 18:42:17 GMT -5
my friend chris just told me :eek: Ch...Chris? It all makes sense now... :rotfl: not that chris |
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Post by muta75 on Feb 18, 2014 18:42:47 GMT -5
he resigned his position with the company, if he gave up his shares he'd be an idiot.. Now he's an established business man though, I'd assume he could start selling of those shares now. Stephanie has, She only has like 600K Shares left. why would he do that? he set up shop in CHINA, it's a communist country..the state can seize operations anytime they want (in theory) |
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Post by WSS? on Feb 18, 2014 18:42:51 GMT -5
:eek: Ch...Chris? It all makes sense now... :rotfl: not that chris You LIE! |
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Post by TomJohns on Feb 18, 2014 18:46:37 GMT -5
Now he's an established business man though, I'd assume he could start selling of those shares now. Stephanie has, She only has like 600K Shares left. why would he do that? he set up shop in CHINA, it's a communist country..the state can seize operations anytime they want (in theory) Seriously? They can just take his shit like that? I didn't know that was a thing. |
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Post by muta75 on Feb 18, 2014 18:48:06 GMT -5
why would he do that? he set up shop in CHINA, it's a communist country..the state can seize operations anytime they want (in theory) Seriously? They can just take his s*** like that? I didn't know that was a thing. you think a police state is gonna stay on the up and up? |
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 18, 2014 19:08:18 GMT -5
if Shane wanted in the business, why would he have left five years ago? What was the actual reason he left? Has there been any word on why? The most prominent rumor is that Triple H more or less usurped his position so he left. Of course there's no way for the average fan to substantiate this rumor so take it as you well. I'd rather spend my time thinking about the fact that John Cena said that other superstars need to step up their game. John Cena. |
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Post by TomJohns on Feb 18, 2014 19:08:31 GMT -5
Seriously? They can just take his s*** like that? I didn't know that was a thing. you think a police state is gonna stay on the up and up? Dude, I don't pay attention to what the hell the police and government in CHINA get up to |
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Post by TomJohns on Feb 18, 2014 19:17:40 GMT -5
What was the actual reason he left? Has there been any word on why? The most prominent rumor is that Triple H more or less usurped his position so he left. Of course there's no way for the average fan to substantiate this rumor so take it as you well. I'd rather spend my time thinking about the fact that John Cena said that other superstars need to step up their game. John Cena. Listening to it, He said people today are affraid to do something that will make then stand out such as what people like Austin, The Rock, Himself and others done in the past to get themselves noticed. He also said, That when he goes out there and gets the "Lets go Cena, Cena Sucks" chants the guy he's is in the ring with should be pissed, Becuase the entire crowed isn't focused on them the crowd is focused on him wether they are booing him or cheering him they are doing that whilst ignoring he guy he is in the ring with, He also said that when he's in there with people like Bryan or The Rock the crowd does't do the "Lets go Cena, Cena sucks" chant becuase the people that are usually chanting "Cena Sucks" are cheering for his opponent instead of chanting that.... It was actually a good point from Cena, Wether i done the point justice in this comment is a whole other situation........... Also GET ON GTA |
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 18, 2014 19:21:35 GMT -5
Sounds like Cena's got a bigger ego than I thought. What exactly did he ever do to stand out? He's the guy that Vince hand-picked to lead the company, not much more. It must be nice talking about how other wrestlers need to take chances and be distinctive when it's a tightly restrictive company that he happens to be at the top of.
EDIT: GTA in a bit, you better stay on a while.
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Post by muta75 on Feb 18, 2014 19:31:00 GMT -5
i do agree with Cena that if guys wait around to be tapped, then they are fucked.
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Post by TomJohns on Feb 18, 2014 19:33:01 GMT -5
Sounds like Cena's got a bigger ego than I thought. What exactly did he ever do to stand out? He's the guy that Vince hand-picked to lead the company, not much more. It must be nice talking about how other wrestlers need to take chances and be distinctive when it's a tightly restrictive company that he happens to be at the top of. EDIT: GTA in a bit, you better stay on a while. He wasn't actually WWE's first pick. Triple H has said that MANY times. The pick was originally Brock Lesnar & then he left. Cena done the whole thuganomics thing with the rapping, jorts and sports jerseys to get him over, He says in the interview that Vince was very close to firing him because of what he used to say whilst rapping, The only reason he wasn't fired is because the fans always responded positively to it. As I said, His point was a very good one, I didn't really do it justice in my comment. Listening to his opinions on the WWE at the moment he didn't sound like a guy who has a giant ego, He legitimately sounded like a guy who is eager to help put someone over and make them the next Face of the WWE. He also sounded like he's goes through a lot of effort to help the WWE move forward as much as he can. Hell the guys been learning Mandarin in his spare time so he can help take WWE to China. EDIT: Oh I'm not on GTA yet, Soon though... VERY SOON. (like 10 Mins.) |
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Post by TomJohns on Feb 18, 2014 19:34:03 GMT -5
i do agree with Cena that if guys wait around to be tapped, then they are f***ed. Exactly. He did make a lot of good points in the interview. |
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 18, 2014 19:36:58 GMT -5
Exactly, John Cena got over by doing pretty much nothing. He had a gimmick, like most other wrestlers, and wore distinctive clothing, like most other wrestlers. He was chosen because he's a meathead with a million dollar body, same as Lesnar. I don't dispute that Cena is a charismatic and hard worker but I find it perplexing that anyone thinks that he "did" anything special to warrant being placed at the top of the promotion where he can look down on those far more gifted than himself and talk as if they're all dragging their feet. i do agree with Cena that if guys wait around to be tapped, then they are f***ed. I disagree with the notion that they actually have a choice. What are they supposed to do, sneak over to the booking chart and pencil their own name into the main event? |
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Post by TomJohns on Feb 18, 2014 19:45:28 GMT -5
Exactly, John Cena got over by doing pretty much nothing. He had a gimmick, like most other wrestlers, and wore distinctive clothing, like most other wrestlers. He was chosen because he's a meathead with a million dollar body, same as Lesnar. I don't dispute that Cena is a charismatic and hard worker but I find it perplexing that anyone thinks that he "did" anything special to warrant being placed at the top of the promotion where he can look down on those far more gifted than himself and talk as if they're all dragging their feet. i do agree with Cena that if guys wait around to be tapped, then they are f***ed. I disagree with the notion that they actually have a choice. What are they supposed to do, sneak over to the booking chart and pencil their own name into the main event? Cena's gimmick was HIS Gimmick, Not WWE's idea. He got over because of something he came up that would make him stick out like a saw thumb & It worked for him They don't have a choice, He says that as well. He says that they basically have to do something to make WWE notice them and make WWE Put them in that Main-Event spot like Daniel Bryan done in 2012/2013 - Bryan done something to get noticed and now he's a main-event/drawing talent for WWE - CM Punk done something to get noticed and became a main-eventer - The Rock done something to get noticed and became THE guy in the WWE. That is what Cena is saying todays talent need to do, They need to do something that will make them stand out against the rest of the roster. |
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Post by muta75 on Feb 18, 2014 19:47:27 GMT -5
Exactly, John Cena got over by doing pretty much nothing. He had a gimmick, like most other wrestlers, and wore distinctive clothing, like most other wrestlers. He was chosen because he's a meathead with a million dollar body, same as Lesnar. I don't dispute that Cena is a charismatic and hard worker but I find it perplexing that anyone thinks that he "did" anything special to warrant being placed at the top of the promotion where he can look down on those far more gifted than himself and talk as if they're all dragging their feet. i do agree with Cena that if guys wait around to be tapped, then they are f***ed. I disagree with the notion that they actually have a choice. What are they supposed to do, sneak over to the booking chart and pencil their own name into the main event? or, as he and the magnificent STONE COLD!! STONE COLD!!! STONE COLD!!!! said, bounce an idea off of Vince. that's what he meant byt step up. why did Sheamus get such an early push? he let it known he was willing to do the work... |
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Post by wildknight on Feb 19, 2014 6:27:20 GMT -5
... the notion that Vinnie Mac "almost fired" Cena over the stuff he was saying while rapping is utter nonsense. I love you guys, but it's really time you start looking for patters and recognizing the ones WWE uses over and over. Find me a major superstar over the past couple of decades that didn't supposedly have "real" backstage heat with Vince because they were SUCH A HUGE REBEL and just WOULDN'T OBEY THE RULES!
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 19, 2014 8:03:42 GMT -5
Exactly, John Cena got over by doing pretty much nothing. He had a gimmick, like most other wrestlers, and wore distinctive clothing, like most other wrestlers. He was chosen because he's a meathead with a million dollar body, same as Lesnar. I don't dispute that Cena is a charismatic and hard worker but I find it perplexing that anyone thinks that he "did" anything special to warrant being placed at the top of the promotion where he can look down on those far more gifted than himself and talk as if they're all dragging their feet. I disagree with the notion that they actually have a choice. What are they supposed to do, sneak over to the booking chart and pencil their own name into the main event? or, as he and the magnificent STONE COLD!! STONE COLD!!! STONE COLD!!!! said, bounce an idea off of Vince. that's what he meant byt step up. why did Sheamus get such an early push? he let it known he was willing to do the work... Several shoots I've listened to have echoed the apparent fact that Vince respects go-getters, men who come right out and say "I WANT the title. I want a shot and I'm ready for one, give me the belt and let me show you what I can do". That's fine, I just don't believe the suggestion that it's all on the superstar's side. I'm sure that Vince doesn't go for just anybody who's hungry especially when that includes probably 98% of the locker room. |
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Post by skylerb97 on Feb 19, 2014 8:11:45 GMT -5
From what I've heard Vince is usually open to suggestion (although the only idea I can really remember isCurt Hawkings going to Edge with the Edgehead thing and Adam relaying it to Vince) A lot of guys are probably to timid to ask the boss to let them run with an idea, and as a result are just waiting around.
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Post by wildknight on Feb 19, 2014 9:27:20 GMT -5
Make no mistake; Vince McMahon LOVES John Cena, and was going to push him no matter what (especially once it was obvious that Brock wasn't working out). Vince loves the muscled up All-American type. That's always going to be his "go to" to replace Hogan.
On the other hand, he has proven remarkably flexible in his thinking, and when no Hogan heir apparent is around, he has been willing to push whomever the fans seem to be getting behind. Cena may have a point in that some of the other guys backstage who complain about Cena and Orton so much should focus more on doing something for themselves and less on blaming the guys above them, but it doesn't help him to seem truthful when he pushes the notion that Vince wasn't always in his corner.
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