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Post by WSS? on Feb 28, 2014 20:02:37 GMT -5
Thanks. By the way, Mike, Seto, and I'll be back tomorrow with a flamethrower, two hand grenades, and a ham sandwich. You guys are free to love crap till your little hearts are content. I'll just be over here demanding crazy stuff like "compelling story", "interesting characters", and "a point to the game other than collecting garbage and killing the next thing down the line so that I can collect a slightly shinier piece of garbage." I will grind to my heart's content, thank you very much. Okay I'm confused. Where did this random fight about Bethesda RPGs come from? Wild thinks that Skyrim is the worst game of all time. Mike and I like it, and if I remember correctly, you do too. There was a week-long argument about it. You seriously don't remember? |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Feb 28, 2014 20:04:49 GMT -5
Okay I'm confused. Where did this random fight about Bethesda RPGs come from? Wild thinks that Skyrim is the worst game of all time. Mike and I like it, and if I remember correctly, you do too. There was a week-long argument about it. You seriously don't remember? Fine then, don't mention me, despite my being the one who caused the argument to start. |
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Post by setokaiba on Feb 28, 2014 20:08:28 GMT -5
Okay I'm confused. Where did this random fight about Bethesda RPGs come from? Wild thinks that Skyrim is the worst game of all time. Mike and I like it, and if I remember correctly, you do too. There was a week-long argument about it. You seriously don't remember? Well I learned to stay out of those arguments because it just ends in people getting upset, but yes I do love Skyrim and play it to this day. |
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Post by WSS? on Feb 28, 2014 20:56:32 GMT -5
Wild thinks that Skyrim is the worst game of all time. Mike and I like it, and if I remember correctly, you do too. There was a week-long argument about it. You seriously don't remember? Fine then, don't mention me, despite my being the one who caused the argument to start. You don't think the game is the worst thing since ever, though. Wild thinks that Skyrim is the worst game of all time. Mike and I like it, and if I remember correctly, you do too. There was a week-long argument about it. You seriously don't remember? Well I learned to stay out of those arguments because it just ends in people getting upset. What? You know who we are, right? |
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Post by setokaiba on Feb 28, 2014 21:07:37 GMT -5
Fine then, don't mention me, despite my being the one who caused the argument to start. You don't think the game is the worst thing since ever, though. Well I learned to stay out of those arguments because it just ends in people getting upset. What? You know who we are, right? I'm pretty sure soon is a clone of WK created by Obama and his evil democrat army of atheist and the Muslim Brotherhood. So I'm sure he hold Skyrim in the regard. Yes I know who we are and we get upset about stupid shit just like everyone else. We're not as thin skinned but even we have our breaking point |
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Post by wildknight on Feb 28, 2014 23:48:06 GMT -5
Yes. After thousands of fans bitched up a storm, they walked back the comment, but if you read the content of the claim that it's NOT open world, what they essentially say is that it IS open world, and they simply have no $#@!ing clue what "open world" means. They literally call out some of the most annoying features of games like Skyrim and say "we didn't copy the bad stuff, only THIS stuff..." *eyeroll* $#@!ing screw yourselves Bioware. |
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Post by wildknight on Feb 28, 2014 23:51:07 GMT -5
I don't give a flying $#@! if you guys like Skryim. You can HAVE Skyrim. What I want to $#@!ing know is why EVERY OTHER $#@!ING GAME HAS TO TRY TO BE SKYRIM NOW. Everything I loved about Dragon age was what made it NOT Skyrim. How can you seriously not understand how obnoxious it is to have the game I loved turned into a game that I hate? I would fully understand if they announced for the next Elder Scrolls game, they had chosen to make it play like $#@!ing Dragon Age, and you guys were (rightfully) pissed.
I'll just console myself with the fact that if Elder Scrolls Online is successful, you guys will probably only get MMOs from here on out.
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Post by WSS? on Mar 1, 2014 0:33:02 GMT -5
I don't give a flying $#@! if you guys like Skryim. You can HAVE Skyrim. What I want to $#@!ing know is why EVERY OTHER $#@!ING GAME HAS TO TRY TO BE SKYRIM NOW. Skyrim made money. Companies want to make money. Pretty simple. I don't like it either (Especially considering I've been meaning to get into Bioware games) but that's how things tend to work. But if fans complain enough, they might possibly once-in-a-blue-moon consider maybe changing it. Dead Rising 3, for example. They tried to make it grittier, fans complained like heck. So now it's the weirdest thing I've ever seen in video game form, going even farther down DR2's ridiculous path that I hated in the first place. In the end, I hate everyone, and I'm always right. So, nothing's changed.  |
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Post by wildknight on Mar 1, 2014 6:42:00 GMT -5
Skyrim made money. Companies want to make money. Pretty simple. This is what is known as a false syllogism. It doesn't work that way. History has shown again and again that emulating success does not equal success. Being the "best of the rest" is usually a much more financially favorable outcome. |
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Post by WrestleClown on Mar 1, 2014 10:59:36 GMT -5
Skyrim made money. Companies want to make money. Pretty simple. This is what is known as a false syllogism. It doesn't work that way. History has shown again and again that emulating success does not equal success. Being the "best of the rest" is usually a much more financially favorable outcome. That still doesn't stop companies from trying to use the same in-game mechanics of the financially dominant rival. It's one of the reasons that FPS styled games have ran rampant, much to the dismay of some gamers. Minecraft is a another good (Perhaps best?) example of an ultra popular game that inspires a lot of sub standard imitations. It still doesn't stop companies from doing it, especially if you consider how much it could pay off to be recognized as a potential direct rival to the exponentially more profitable Elder Scrolls: Skyrim. *Honk* |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Mar 1, 2014 11:19:17 GMT -5
The best example of a game that inspired a bunch of side-offs that were also successes would be...
Flappy Birds. Thankfully that trend has started to die now.
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Post by WSS? on Mar 1, 2014 14:21:54 GMT -5
This is what is known as a false syllogism. It doesn't work that way. History has shown again and again that emulating success does not equal success. Being the "best of the rest" is usually a much more financially favorable outcome. That still doesn't stop companies from trying to use the same in-game mechanics of the financially dominant rival. It's one of the reasons that FPS styled games have ran rampant, much to the dismay of some gamers. Minecraft is a another good (Perhaps best?) example of an ultra popular game that inspires a lot of sub standard imitations. It still doesn't stop companies from doing it, especially if you consider how much it could pay off to be recognized as a potential direct rival to the exponentially more profitable Elder Scrolls: Skyrim. *Honk* Couldn't of said it better myself. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Mar 1, 2014 14:26:56 GMT -5
That still doesn't stop companies from trying to use the same in-game mechanics of the financially dominant rival. It's one of the reasons that FPS styled games have ran rampant, much to the dismay of some gamers. Minecraft is a another good (Perhaps best?) example of an ultra popular game that inspires a lot of sub standard imitations. It still doesn't stop companies from doing it, especially if you consider how much it could pay off to be recognized as a potential direct rival to the exponentially more profitable Elder Scrolls: Skyrim. *Honk* Couldn't of said it better myself. Unfortunately the argument is only halfway relative to what Wildknight is arguing. If you couldn't have said it better yourself then you might as well give up. |
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Post by WrestleClown on Mar 1, 2014 15:04:07 GMT -5
Couldn't of said it better myself. Unfortunately the argument is only halfway relative to what Wildknight is arguing. If you couldn't have said it better yourself then you might as well give up. Wildknight is distraught over the fact that he thinks that they may change the core aspects of DragonAge to play just like Skyrim. While I acknowledge that adopting a certain game style too closely will usually result in a cheap imitation, it's not uncommon for games to use mechanics and features from other games (Especially if those other games are way more financially successful). We're not even sure what effects the more "Open world" feel will have on the game. We can only speculate. I think a lot of people are jumping the gun a bit. Hell, Farcry 3 was being marketed as "Skyrim with guns" and I found that to be far from the truth. I also try to keep in mind that Wildknight has decided that he hates open world gameplay, and if I did, I probably wouldn't be too thrilled with all of this news either. *Honk* |
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Post by setokaiba on Mar 1, 2014 15:11:31 GMT -5
Farcry3 was marketed as "Skyrim with guns"? I like both game but besides having a big map they're nothing alike.
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Post by WrestleClown on Mar 1, 2014 15:16:17 GMT -5
Farcry3 was marketed as "Skyrim with guns"? I like both game but besides having a big map they're nothing alike. I agree. If anything "Like Skyrim with guns" is more along the lines of the Fallout games. Edit: It wouldn't allow me to post the actual picture for whatever reason. *Honk* |
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Post by setokaiba on Mar 1, 2014 15:28:12 GMT -5
Well Fallout is the Elder Scroll with guns and a better story IMO. But that because their made with the same engine and team.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Mar 1, 2014 17:32:11 GMT -5
Well Fallout is the Elder Scroll with guns and a better story IMO. But that because their made with the same engine and team. Fallout does have a better story... Well Fallout 3 that is. All of the other ones suck King Kong's testicles. |
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Post by WSS? on Mar 1, 2014 17:33:09 GMT -5
Well Fallout is the Elder Scroll with guns and a better story IMO. But that because their made with the same engine and team. Well Fallout 3 that is. All of the other ones suck King Kong's testicles. Lies. |
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Post by setokaiba on Mar 1, 2014 17:33:52 GMT -5
Well Fallout is the Elder Scroll with guns and a better story IMO. But that because their made with the same engine and team. Fallout does have a better story... Well Fallout 3 that is. All of the other ones suck King Kong's testicles. I enjoyed New Vegas story and how it all ties into the war and Ulysses but you need the DLC to get the full story which is stupid. |
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