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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 19:42:08 GMT -5
"Anime" is not an art style LOL It's a genre of animation, characterized by much more than just art style. There are actually multiple "art styles" that fall under the blanket of anime, from traditional BESM stuff to highly stylized Final Fantasy-type art to stuff that's actually some of the most realistic looking art in any kind of animation. Calling Avatar or Teen Titans "anime" just because they borrowed some visual elements from anime is like calling the United States Greece because a lot of the buildings in Washington DC have architectural features adapted from traditional Greek buildings. I call "anime" like TT half animes because they borrowed from the style. I'm not saying that they're animes but half animes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 19:42:59 GMT -5
... Avatar was created by an American guy of Italian decent with an entirely American (and maybe some Canadian) team and animated by American animators. Where are it's "anime roots" exactly? I think you guys are confusing "being inspired by something" with "being something." As i knew there were some Japanese guys in the team...
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Post by wildknight on Mar 18, 2014 19:44:16 GMT -5
I call "anime" like TT half animes because they borrowed from the style. I'm not saying that they're animes but half animes. ... going back to my earlier example, would you call a building "half-Greek" despite having been built in America by Americans, simply because it happens to have borrowed some visual elements from Greek architecture?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 19:45:32 GMT -5
I call "anime" like TT half animes because they borrowed from the style. I'm not saying that they're animes but half animes. ... going back to my earlier example, would you call a building "half-Greek" despite having been built in America by Americans, simply because it happens to have borrowed some visual elements from Greek architecture? No. I would call those buildings Greek-American buildings.
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Post by wildknight on Mar 18, 2014 19:46:22 GMT -5
... Avatar was created by an American guy of Italian decent with an entirely American (and maybe some Canadian) team and animated by American animators. Where are it's "anime roots" exactly? I think you guys are confusing "being inspired by something" with "being something." As i knew there were some Japanese guys in the team... The primary creative powers behind Avatar There may have been some Japanese animators, but given that they had nothing to do with determining the visual style, plot, or any other important element of the show... (For the record, though he didn't do all of the primary animation, the original character sketches were all done by DiMartino)
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Post by wildknight on Mar 18, 2014 19:46:44 GMT -5
... going back to my earlier example, would you call a building "half-Greek" despite having been built in America by Americans, simply because it happens to have borrowed some visual elements from Greek architecture? No. I would call those buildings Greek-American buildings. Why? Nothing about them is Greek.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Mar 18, 2014 19:48:25 GMT -5
Also pretty sure this should go in the Television section.
BANE!
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Post by Brian_Underscore_ on Mar 18, 2014 19:49:38 GMT -5
Anime is just short for animation. In Japan, anything animated is anime. Outside of Japan, we just took the word and give whatever meaning to it that suits our purposes. So if you're outside Japan, you're all right. If you're in Japan, you're all stupid idiot gaijin.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 19:50:44 GMT -5
No. I would call those buildings Greek-American buildings. Why? Nothing about them is Greek. The architecture is Greek. Also back to Avatar, that can be that Americans/Canadians did all the things but they borrowed the Chinese/Japanese/Asian type of storytelling. So let's say Avatar is a 1/3 anime.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 19:51:27 GMT -5
Anime is just short for animation. In Japan, anything animated is anime. Outside of Japan, we just took the word and give whatever meaning to it that suits our purposes. And here is our answer!
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Mar 18, 2014 19:51:59 GMT -5
Anime is just short for animation. In Japan, anything animated is anime. Outside of Japan, we just took the word and give whatever meaning to it that suits our purposes. I highly doubt people in Japan call it anime. They probably call it something funky which people then translate into anime.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Mar 18, 2014 19:52:56 GMT -5
Anime is just short for animation. In Japan, anything animated is anime. Outside of Japan, we just took the word and give whatever meaning to it that suits our purposes. And here is our answer! Hardly.
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Post by Brian_Underscore_ on Mar 18, 2014 20:07:37 GMT -5
Anime is just short for animation. In Japan, anything animated is anime. Outside of Japan, we just took the word and give whatever meaning to it that suits our purposes. I highly doubt people in Japan call it anime. They probably call it something funky which people then translate into anime. It's written as "アニメ" and pronounced "anime".
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Post by wildknight on Mar 18, 2014 20:18:02 GMT -5
Anime is just short for animation. In Japan, anything animated is anime. Outside of Japan, we just took the word and give whatever meaning to it that suits our purposes. I highly doubt people in Japan call it anime. They probably call it something funky which people then translate into anime. No, he's right. "Anime" is the word in Japan. Remember that the Japanese language doesn't invent new words when they encounter a new concept. They adopt the word from the original language. The problem with the argument is that the Japanese DO NOT refer to all cartoons as anime, even though the word might technically apply. Like us, they have different terms for different genres of animation, and they don't refer to imported American cartoons as "anime" for the most part.
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Post by iodill8 on Mar 18, 2014 20:18:18 GMT -5
(I forgot the name, has to do with controlling the elements or something like that). Avatar was not an anime, at all. Teen Titans was not anime. Please don't insult a show that actually knew how to tell a story just because it used some Japanese style animation. ...Dude, it was an anime. Anime is an art style, which Teen Titans clearly followed. By the way, being crap is not the definition of an anime, just a common part of it. Teen Titans was not anime, far from it. ...And this post was necessary how? You legitimately just repeated Wild, and this post was made 3 minutes after Wild's so you must've saw it. 1. I wasn't speaking of Avatar:Last Airbender, although to this day, I FUCKING LOVE that show. Legends of Korra isn't anywhere as good. 2. By your standards of what is considered anime, Avatar: Last Airbender and Legends of Korra WOULD be considered animes. 3. Teen Titans isn't an anime.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 20:19:51 GMT -5
Avatar was not an anime, at all. ...Dude, it was an anime. Anime is an art style, which Teen Titans clearly followed. By the way, being crap is not the definition of an anime, just a common part of it. ...And this post was necessary how? You legitimately just repeated Wild, and this post was made 3 minutes after Wild's so you must've saw it. 1. I wasn't speaking of Avatar:Last Airbender, although to this day, I f***ING LOVE that show. Legends of Korra isn't anywhere as good. 2. By your standards of what is considered anime, Avatar: Last Airbender and Legends of Korra WOULD be considered animes. 3. Teen Titans isn't an anime. There's another Avatar after The Last Airbender?
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Post by wildknight on Mar 18, 2014 20:20:47 GMT -5
The architecture is Greek. No, it's not. That's what you keep missing. The architecture is American, inspired by the Greek style.
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Post by wildknight on Mar 18, 2014 20:21:17 GMT -5
There's another Avatar after The Last Airbender? Yes, Legend of Korra. It is... disappointing.
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Post by iodill8 on Mar 18, 2014 20:24:08 GMT -5
I FUCKING HATE Korra, the character herself. The bitch just HAS to reset the FUCKING Avatar Cycle, doesn't she?
Like I said, Legends of Korra isn't remotely as good as Avatar: Last Airbender. The teen/young adult relationship complication is partly the reason why.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 20:24:55 GMT -5
The architecture is Greek. No, it's not. That's what you keep missing. The architecture is American, inspired by the Greek style. Looks like i forgot to write the other half of my sentence... i was about to write "It's inspired by Geek architecture, and we should give them credits for the work they've done before Americans did"
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