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Post by setokaiba on May 17, 2014 9:12:14 GMT -5
I know exactly what you're talking about for one. Secondly, you're really pushing it here. You're ridiculous right now. Why? Because i'm part of the minority which isn't hates RVD to death? I don't hate RVD. I liked him in the early 2000s and was happy when he won the WWE and ECW titles. RVD had he chance at the top and he blow it on drugs. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on May 17, 2014 9:12:55 GMT -5
1. Predator Engine has little to do with how much the character looks like in-game models. Predator Engine actually has little to do with anything you need to know as a consumer and I bet you can't even tell me what it does. 2. You seem to want to avoid Trump? Don't worry, RVD's not much better than Trump....but I'm sure he'll make it in. 3. So, like I thought, nothing relevant. 1.Then why was it advertised as a graphics engine? (and if it had nothing to do with the graphics which it isn't, then why didn't they changed the play-doh mans) 2.Donald's a Trump 1. It wasn't. Predatory Tech 1: They advertised it with, a deeper field of visual (meaning they could do more visual wise than before, but it doesn't mean they did. This was mostly only added in because of the camera angles being more realistic, as that's the main point of the "visual" aspect of the game engine), better gameplay, Animations, Submission System, and controls. Predator Tech 2: Driven by new animations, transitions and modified controls, Predator Technology returns to deliver intelligent, fluid and engaging WWE action, resulting in a smoother gameplay experience than its predecessors. 2. So is RVD. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 9:13:54 GMT -5
Why? Because i'm part of the minority which isn't hates RVD to death? I don't hate RVD. I liked him in the early 2000s and was happy when he won the WWE and ECW titles. RVD had he chance at the top and he blow it way on drugs. I can't argue with that. He blew it. But he should have an ending that's like 'Takers. (But less dramatic. Nobody would cry for him.) |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 9:15:31 GMT -5
1.Then why was it advertised as a graphics engine? (and if it had nothing to do with the graphics which it isn't, then why didn't they changed the play-doh mans) 2.Donald's a Trump 1. It wasn't. Predatory Tech 1: They advertised it with, a deeper field of visual (meaning they could do more visual wise than before, but it doesn't mean they did. This was mostly only added in because of the camera angles being more realistic, as that's the main point of the "visual" aspect of the game engine), better gameplay, Animations, Submission System, and controls. Predator Tech 2: Driven by new animations, transitions and modified controls, Predator Technology returns to deliver intelligent, fluid and engaging WWE action, resulting in a smoother gameplay experience than its predecessors. 2. So is RVD. 1.Still don't know why they're play-doh mans. But i guess they realized that its not the future. 2.Can't argue. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on May 17, 2014 9:15:34 GMT -5
I know exactly what you're talking about for one. Secondly, you're really pushing it here. You're ridiculous right now. Why? Because i'm part of the minority which isn't hates RVD to death? No. Because you're trying to push for a reason not to use CAWs because you know you lost your case. You literally just pulled out the "not a hacked CAW" because you know that you lost. You also can't say that hacked CAWs are bad because there's literally nothing different between hacked and regular CAWs except that hacked ones look way better....and if you try to dispute that, you're being even more ridiculous on top of your ridiculousness. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 9:19:14 GMT -5
Why? Because i'm part of the minority which isn't hates RVD to death? No. Because you're trying to push for a reason not to use CAWs because you know you lost your case. You literally just pulled out the "not a hacked CAW" because you know that you lost. You also can't say that hacked CAWs are bad because there's literally nothing different between hacked and regular CAWs except that hacked ones look way better....and if you try to dispute that, you're being even more ridiculous on top of your ridiculousness. When someone says that a CAW looks like an in-game model i automatically assume they're talking about hacked CAWs for some reason, but i know that they can make good ones. And i don't like using CAWs of real superstars because it just not feels like i'm actually using them. Maybe because they don't take up a roster spot, idunno. But i'm with original CAWs all the time. |
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Post by setokaiba on May 17, 2014 9:19:16 GMT -5
I don't hate RVD. I liked him in the early 2000s and was happy when he won the WWE and ECW titles. RVD had he chance at the top and he blow it way on drugs. I can't argue with that. He blew it. But he should have an ending that's like 'Takers. (But less dramatic. Nobody would cry for him.) RVD isn't that kind of wrestler and doesn't have that kind of legacy. He's not Undertaker, HBK or even Edge to get that kind of send off. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on May 17, 2014 9:20:52 GMT -5
1. It wasn't. Predatory Tech 1: They advertised it with, a deeper field of visual (meaning they could do more visual wise than before, but it doesn't mean they did. This was mostly only added in because of the camera angles being more realistic, as that's the main point of the "visual" aspect of the game engine), better gameplay, Animations, Submission System, and controls. Predator Tech 2: Driven by new animations, transitions and modified controls, Predator Technology returns to deliver intelligent, fluid and engaging WWE action, resulting in a smoother gameplay experience than its predecessors. 2. So is RVD. 1.Still don't know why they're play-doh mans. But i guess they realized that its not the future. 2.Can't argue. .....ridiculous. 1. They're not play-doh men. They're definitely not up to par with in-game models all of the time (but, I find it extremely easy to find ones that DO look real in 13 and 2k14), but they definitely fix them more and more every year. If you can't see how much better the CAW models are, then that's not anything I can help with. I can tell you that the CAWs in that game look completely stiff at all times and utterly ridiculous compared to the in-game models.....as opposed to having a game like 2k14 or 13 that has great CAW graphics compared to years passed. The only bad thing about the CAWs nowadays are how they are used in universe mode. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 9:21:34 GMT -5
I can't argue with that. He blew it. But he should have an ending that's like 'Takers. (But less dramatic. Nobody would cry for him.) RVD isn't that kind of wrestler and doesn't have that kind of legacy. He's not Undertaker, HBK or even Edge to get that kind of send off. By having that send off, i meant winning a match at WM/losing a kinda epic match and then retiring. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on May 17, 2014 9:23:00 GMT -5
No. Because you're trying to push for a reason not to use CAWs because you know you lost your case. You literally just pulled out the "not a hacked CAW" because you know that you lost. You also can't say that hacked CAWs are bad because there's literally nothing different between hacked and regular CAWs except that hacked ones look way better....and if you try to dispute that, you're being even more ridiculous on top of your ridiculousness. When someone says that a CAW looks like an in-game model i automatically assume they're talking about hacked CAWs for some reason, but i know that they can make good ones. And i don't like using CAWs of real superstars because it just not feels like i'm actually using them. Maybe because they don't take up a roster spot, idunno. But i'm with original CAWs all the time. And that's the developer's problem that you don't want to use real guys as a CAW? Once again, ridiculous. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 9:25:05 GMT -5
1.Still don't know why they're play-doh mans. But i guess they realized that its not the future. 2.Can't argue. .....ridiculous. 1. They're not play-doh men. They're definitely not up to par with in-game models all of the time (but, I find it extremely easy to find ones that DO look real in 13 and 2k14), but they definitely fix them more and more every year. If you can't see how much better the CAW models are, then that's not anything I can help with. I can tell you that the CAWs in that game look completely stiff at all times and utterly ridiculous compared to the in-game models.....as opposed to having a game like 2k14 or 13 that has great CAW graphics compared to years passed. The only bad thing about the CAWs nowadays are how they are used in universe mode. I don't like where the models went, i see that the CAWs are better, but sometimes i feel that i watch an episode of the wrestling version The Walking Dead game with better graphics. It just feels cartoon-y. But it did evolve. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on May 17, 2014 9:26:10 GMT -5
.....ridiculous. 1. They're not play-doh men. They're definitely not up to par with in-game models all of the time (but, I find it extremely easy to find ones that DO look real in 13 and 2k14), but they definitely fix them more and more every year. If you can't see how much better the CAW models are, then that's not anything I can help with. I can tell you that the CAWs in that game look completely stiff at all times and utterly ridiculous compared to the in-game models.....as opposed to having a game like 2k14 or 13 that has great CAW graphics compared to years passed. The only bad thing about the CAWs nowadays are how they are used in universe mode. I don't like where the models went, i see that the CAWs are better, but sometimes i feel that i watch an episode of the wrestling version The Walking Dead game with better graphics. It just feels cartoon-y. But it did evolve. Have you not seen the actual in-game roster? They're just as cartoony. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 9:27:23 GMT -5
I don't like where the models went, i see that the CAWs are better, but sometimes i feel that i watch an episode of the wrestling version The Walking Dead game with better graphics. It just feels cartoon-y. But it did evolve. Have you not seen the actual in-game roster? They're just as cartoony. By saying models and not CAWs i meant, that either in-game characters and CAWs are cartoony. |
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Post by setokaiba on May 17, 2014 9:31:29 GMT -5
RVD isn't that kind of wrestler and doesn't have that kind of legacy. He's not Undertaker, HBK or even Edge to get that kind of send off. By having that send off, i meant winning a match at WM/losing a kinda epic match and then retiring. But what kind of epic match could you build for RVD at this point? He isn't a main event level guy like Taker(if he isn't coming back), HBK or Edge was when they got their send off. He isn't even Ric Flair who is one of the greatest of all time. RVD is a hardcore legend and will be in the HOF someday but he isn't a guy who helped defined a era like Taker, HBK, Flair and Edge or even the guy who defines hardcore wrestling(Mick Foley is usually the guy people look at as the Hardcore Icon) |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 9:34:35 GMT -5
By having that send off, i meant winning a match at WM/losing a kinda epic match and then retiring. But what kind of epic match could you build for RVD at this point? He isn't a main event level guy like Taker(if he isn't coming back), HBK or Edge was when they got their send off. He isn't even Ric Flair who is one of the greatest of all time. RVD is a hardcore legend and will be in the HOF someday but he isn't a guy who helped defined a era like Taker, HBK, Flair and Edge or even the guy who defines hardcore wrestling(Mick Foley is usually the guy people look at as the Hardcore Icon) High Flyers Hardcore (No Holds Barred) Fatal Four way? Sami Zayn (if he gets to the main roster in time)/Sin Cara, Mysterio, Kofi, and RVD. |
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Post by setokaiba on May 17, 2014 9:44:39 GMT -5
But what kind of epic match could you build for RVD at this point? He isn't a main event level guy like Taker(if he isn't coming back), HBK or Edge was when they got their send off. He isn't even Ric Flair who is one of the greatest of all time. RVD is a hardcore legend and will be in the HOF someday but he isn't a guy who helped defined a era like Taker, HBK, Flair and Edge or even the guy who defines hardcore wrestling(Mick Foley is usually the guy people look at as the Hardcore Icon) High Flyers Hardcore (No Holds Barred) Fatal Four way? Sami Zayn (if he gets to the main roster in time)/Sin Cara, Mysterio, Kofi, and RVD. Myserio needs to retire and he can't do any of the stuff he use to and besides RVD none of those wrestlers are consider hardcore guys. You can't just put 4 guys in match and say "here go beat each other to death and jump from high places" it just won't work. When you build toward a wrestlers send off it's usally something that the fans can get behind. Regardless of how you feel about Tommy Dreamer I think he got a great send off on ECW. They gave him the ECW title and he said "once I lose this belt I'm gone" and once he lost it he gave a emotional speech and walk away with his kids. RVD legacy is in ECW but there is no ECW brand or ECW title like when Dreamer retired. So do you give him the US or IC title and have him do the same thing? You could put him a tag team and have his partner be the guy who retire him as a way of giving that guy heat. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 9:47:55 GMT -5
High Flyers Hardcore (No Holds Barred) Fatal Four way? Sami Zayn (if he gets to the main roster in time)/Sin Cara, Mysterio, Kofi, and RVD. Myserio needs to retire and he can't do any of the stuff he use to and besides RVD none of those wrestlers are consider hardcore guys. You can't just put 4 guys in match and say "here go beat each other to death and jump from high places" it just won't work. When you build toward a wrestlers send off it's usally something that the fans can get behind. Regardless of how you feel about Tommy Dreamer I think he got a great send off on ECW. They gave him the ECW title and he said "once I lose this belt I'm gone" and once he lost it he gave a emotional speech and walk away with his kids. RVD legacy is in ECW but there is no ECW brand or ECW title like when Dreamer retired. So do you give him the US or IC title and have him do the same thing? Yes. I'd do it. Let him have one last Hardcore (or should i say No More Barred?) match with the IC/US title, that doesn't suck ass and i'll be happy. |
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Post by wildknight on May 17, 2014 10:03:12 GMT -5
1.Yes, his moves are in, but not his model. Until we go back to SvR 11 where CAWs looked pretty much like the in-game characters, i want him to be in officially. 2.That's your opinion. And if he wouldn't have came back they would've included him into HOF so you can thank him 'bout that 3.Well he should get a title, or retire as the ex-partner of Adam Rose... which is better in your opinion? You are the very epitome of a fanboy. Your failure to recognize what an utter failure this guy is just makes me sad. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 10:04:38 GMT -5
1.Yes, his moves are in, but not his model. Until we go back to SvR 11 where CAWs looked pretty much like the in-game characters, i want him to be in officially. 2.That's your opinion. And if he wouldn't have came back they would've included him into HOF so you can thank him 'bout that 3.Well he should get a title, or retire as the ex-partner of Adam Rose... which is better in your opinion? You are the very epitome of a fanboy. Your failure to recognize what an utter failure this guy is just makes me sad. ^ |
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Post by wildknight on May 17, 2014 10:06:03 GMT -5
Bully's wealthy? Because of wrestling or a side business thing? I wouldn't be surprised either way, honestly. Good for him, even though I don't like him, lol. He was around when the WWE was paying HUGE contracts, toward the end of the Monday Night Wars, so he caught a couple of years of 1M+ earnings JUST from his contract. On top of that, he's apparently been very smart with his money (unlike a lot of other wrestlers), and is sitting on a pretty good nest egg. The same is true of D-Von. It's not just about earnings in wrestling... it's about what you do with it. Hogan earned more than Bully Ray could ever dream of, but is essentially broke (amazing how well rich people can live when they're broke though). |
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