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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 14, 2013 21:16:33 GMT -5
DEAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
But no, I wasn't referring to the female soldier thing. Is that actually true?
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 14, 2013 21:17:24 GMT -5
DEAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! But no, I wasn't referring to the female soldier thing. Is that actually true? Yes it is. (Or at least I think it is, but now I cannot find the video claiming it) PM me what you are talking about please.
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Post by justinlynch3 on Dec 14, 2013 21:33:52 GMT -5
This is done here?
What a waste, this could of been 3 topics in 3 different areas of the forum. lol
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Post by wildknight on Dec 14, 2013 21:44:24 GMT -5
Vigo sucked in LotR. There, I said it. He was horribly cast in the first place, and half-assed his performance all the way through. He gave a stronger performance in Hidalgo, which is a first rate piece of sentimental crap, but for the Lord of the Rings fans, all he could muster was looking utterly bored in almost every single scene.
The guy is a capable actor... but he has the personal charisma of a wet fart and his presence is about as commanding as a nightstand. He was a terrible choice to play Aragorn, who is meant to combine the best aspects of men and elves and be the greatest leader of the 3rd age. It's sad that Boromir came across as so much more of a leader of men and a man of power and distinction.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 14, 2013 21:44:29 GMT -5
This is done here? What a waste, this could of been 3 topics in 3 different areas of the forum. lol I just realized this has almost exclusively been movie speeches, and thus I have taken it upon myself to include a game speech and a book speech. Also here is the speech Atticus delivers in To Kill A Mockingbird"Gentlemen, I shall be brief, but I would like to use my remaining time with you to remind you that the case of Mayella Ewell vs. Tom Robinson is not a difficult one. To begin with, this case should have never come to trial. The state of Alabama has not produced one iota of medical evidence that shows that the crime Tom Robinson is charged with ever took place. This case is as simple as black and white. It requires no minute sifting of complicated facts, but it does require you to be sure beyond all reasonable doubt as to the guilt of the defendant. Miss Ewell did something that in our society is unspeakable: she is white, and she tempted a Negro. The defendant is not guilty, but someone in this courtroom is. I have nothing but pity in my heart for the chief witness for the state, but my pity does not extend so far as to her putting a man's life at stake. She knew full well the enormity of her offense, but because her desires were stronger than the code she was breaking, she persisted. The state of Alabama has relied solely upon the testimony of two witnesses who's evidence has not only been called into serious question, but has been flatly contradicted by the defendant. I need not remind you of their appearance and conduct on the stand. They have presented themselves in the cynical confidence that their testimony would not be doubted. They were confident that you, the jury, would go along with the evil assumption that all Negro's lie, and are immoral. Mr. Robinson is accused of rape, when it was she who made the advances on him. He put his word against two white people's, and now he is on trial for no apparent reason- except that he is black. Thomas Jefferson once said that all men are created equal, a phrase that the government is fond of hurling at us. There is a tendency in this year of grace, 1935, for certain people to use that phrase out of context, to satisfy all conditions. We know that all men are not created equal in the sense that some people would have us believe. Some people are smarter than others, some people have more opportunity because they are born with it, some men have more money than others, and some people are more gifted than others. But there is one way in this country in which all men are created equal. An institution that makes a pauper the equal of a Rockefeller, the ignorant man the equal of any president, and the stupid man the equal of Einstein. That institution is the court. But a court is only as sound as its jury, and the jury is only as sound as the men who make it up. I am confident that you gentlemen will review without passion the evidence you have heard, come to a decision, and restore the defendant to his family. In the name of God, do your duty. In the name of God, gentlemen, believe Tom Robinson."
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 14, 2013 21:45:37 GMT -5
Vigo sucked in LotR. There, I said it. He was horribly cast in the first place, and half-assed his performance all the way through. He gave a stronger performance in Hidalgo, which is a first rate piece of sentimental crap, but for the Lord of the Rings fans, all he could muster was looking utterly bored in almost every single scene. The guy is a capable actor... but he has the personal charisma of a wet fart and his presence is about as commanding as a nightstand. He was a terrible choice to play Aragorn, who is meant to combine the best aspects of men and elves and be the greatest leader of the 3rd age. It's sad that Boromir came across as so much more of a leader of men and a man of power and distinction. Loooove Boromir. Always my favorite. Loved Sean Bean's portrayal.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 14, 2013 21:50:43 GMT -5
Vigo sucked in LotR. There, I said it. He was horribly cast in the first place, and half-assed his performance all the way through. He gave a stronger performance in Hidalgo, which is a first rate piece of sentimental crap, but for the Lord of the Rings fans, all he could muster was looking utterly bored in almost every single scene. The guy is a capable actor... but he has the personal charisma of a wet fart and his presence is about as commanding as a nightstand. He was a terrible choice to play Aragorn, who is meant to combine the best aspects of men and elves and be the greatest leader of the 3rd age. It's sad that Boromir came across as so much more of a leader of men and a man of power and distinction. Loooove Boromir. Always my favorite. Loved Sean Bean's portrayal. Sean Bean was perfect for Boromir in my opinion.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 14, 2013 21:53:55 GMT -5
Sean Bean was well cast, I agree... but because he's who he is, he "drowned out" Vigo Mortensen pretty badly. It was very lucky for Vigo that Sean died in the first film 8)
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 14, 2013 21:55:52 GMT -5
Sean Bean was well cast, I agree... but because he's who he is, he "drowned out" Vigo Mortensen pretty badly. It was very lucky for Vigo that Sean died in the first film 8) Then Sean Bean came back to life via flashback and managed to further outshine Vigo, and delivered the best performance of any of the supporting characters save Sean Astin.
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 14, 2013 21:58:31 GMT -5
I wasn't nearly as big a fan of Two Towers as everyone else- until recently, when Fellowship has for some reason gained greater appreciation (and rightly so, in my opinion), Towers was considered the audience favorite. While I loved all three films Towers was for me, strangely enough, the easy LEAST favorite. Don't know why, it just wasn't as good to me. Perhaps because of the very emphasis on Viggo that you guys are talking about.
Anyway my point is that with the extended edition of Two Towers, and the addition of crucial and well-performed Boromir scenes, I came to enjoy the film as a whole much more.
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Post by Rush on Dec 14, 2013 21:58:45 GMT -5
Vigo sucked in LotR. There, I said it. He was horribly cast in the first place, and half-assed his performance all the way through. He gave a stronger performance in Hidalgo, which is a first rate piece of sentimental crap, but for the Lord of the Rings fans, all he could muster was looking utterly bored in almost every single scene. The guy is a capable actor... but he has the personal charisma of a wet fart and his presence is about as commanding as a nightstand. He was a terrible choice to play Aragorn, who is meant to combine the best aspects of men and elves and be the greatest leader of the 3rd age. It's sad that Boromir came across as so much more of a leader of men and a man of power and distinction. I liked him in eastern promises
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Post by wildknight on Dec 14, 2013 21:58:57 GMT -5
Sean Bean was well cast, I agree... but because he's who he is, he "drowned out" Vigo Mortensen pretty badly. It was very lucky for Vigo that Sean died in the first film 8) Then Sean Bean came back to life via flashback and managed to further outshine Vigo, and delivered the best performance of any of the supporting characters save Sean Astin. ... I think I might have to agree with you, though those movies had strong supporting casts all around. Ian McKellan and John Rhys-Davies both turned in admirable performances. Karl Urban and David Wenham (Eomer and Farmir, respectively) had understated but very strong turns, IMO. Sean Bean is one of those guys who will probably always be underrated though.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 14, 2013 21:59:26 GMT -5
Personally I think the character who had the worst casting in the film was Elrond. The way Hugo Weaving acts the character out in the films makes his character completely different from the Elrond in the book. Hugo was a great actor, but wasn't the best choice for Elrond in my opinion.
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Post by Rush on Dec 14, 2013 22:00:02 GMT -5
Sean bean is amazing actor who is underated beyond belief
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Post by wildknight on Dec 14, 2013 22:00:36 GMT -5
Personally I think the character who had the worst casting in the film was Elrond. The way Hugo Weaving acts the character out in the films makes his character completely different from the Elrond in the book. Hugo was a great actor, but wasn't the best choice for Elrond in my opinion. ... Aragorn was just as much out of character, and I would argue that Weaving could have played a proper Elrond very well, it just wasn't in the script. There's no way Viggo could have ever been a proper Aragorn.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 14, 2013 22:05:00 GMT -5
I always thought that Sean Astin as Gamgee was absolutely perfect. He was absolutely outstanding thoughtout all three films and manages to evict so much emotion out of you with his acting.
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 14, 2013 22:08:17 GMT -5
Sean Bean is good in just about everything, even if not everything he's in is necessarily good.
I agree, Sean Astin gave the best performance of Return of the King and gave good emotional weight to the first two films. I also agree with Knight, Karl Urban managed to get his presence in there as Eomer. I liked Faramir even though the actor reminded me too much of Richard Gere.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 14, 2013 22:11:43 GMT -5
I liked Faramir even though the actor reminded me too much of Richard Gere. That's funny, I always mistake him for David Thewlis
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 14, 2013 22:12:34 GMT -5
Also yes, John Rhys-Davies was really good as Gimli as well. Also Bernard Hill was pretty good as Theoden.
I just noticed that nobody has mentioned Legolas/Bloom...
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Dec 14, 2013 22:12:42 GMT -5
Man I can't wait till Christmas, I've never watched any of the Lord of the Rings films but have always wanted to and just yesterday I bought the blu-ray 3 film collection. Saving it till Christmas though.
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