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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 6, 2014 15:23:41 GMT -5
If you mean what sect of Christianity, we just believe directly what the bible says. That's what every Christian group claims. *shrugs* Don't know what to say We don't belong to a church body, period. We haven't been to one in about 6 years, because my mother used to type the daily Church newsletter and just kept getting anxiety from it. So we left. And never went to Church again. If you mean what sect of Christianity, we just believe directly what the bible says.
They just have a few facts wrong. Nothing significant, I suppose. They are well aware of the basics, as you stated above. I suppose not being entirely informed isn't going to kill them.
Now, however, if they were to teach what they have wrong to others, then I would suggest telling them that they are wrong. Yeah, I was just thinking about that. They don't have any friends, so it's okay.  |
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 6, 2014 15:27:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I was just thinking about that. They don't have any friends, so it's okay. :rotfl: Wow, I feel really bad getting a laugh out of that. |
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Post by wildknight on Jul 6, 2014 15:28:19 GMT -5
Before you stir that pot, ask yourself this question; do they believe that they are sinners and that Jesus Christ is their savior? If so, I would recommend letting the sleeping dog lay. Having all of your doctrine correct is not necessary for salvation, and if their souls aren't in danger, it's probably not worth going to battle with your own family. If I might ask, what specifically is the issue? What church body do you guys belong to? We don't belong to a church body, period. We haven't been to one in about 6 years, because my mother used to type the daily Church newsletter and just kept getting anxiety from it. So we left. And never went to Church again. If you mean what sect of Christianity, we just believe directly what the bible says.
They just have a few facts wrong. Nothing significant, I suppose. They are well aware of the basics, as you stated above. I suppose not being entirely informed isn't going to kill them.
Your real concern then should be getting them, and yourself, into a church. The reality is that God instructs us to partake in fellowship ("koinonia" in the Greek) regularly, including Holy Communion, with our fellow Christians. When a Christian says "I don't need to attend church to worship God" what they're really saying is "I don't need to be obedient to God." That's a problem. Please don't take this harshly, but I take issue when I hear a Christian say "I just believe what the Bible says." The Bible was written in completely different languages than we now speak by people from completely different cultures than we live in, over a period of thousands of years. In it's original form, the Bible had no punctuation, no paragraphs, no chapters. The Bible is inspired and inerrant, but the interpretations of the Bible that we currently have are not. Furthermore, when people read the Bible, they tend to rely on isogesis (that is, understanding the Bible using external understanding) rather than exegesis (understanding the Bible based on the Bible itself). It's very easy to take a single Bible passage and misinterpret it to mean something that it was never intended to say. The great majority of the heresies that have resulted in false religions began that way, to say nothing of a lot of the supposed "contradictions" that the anti-theists are always "finding" in the text. Simply reading the Bible and assuming that you properly understand what was intended is a very dangerous path. |
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Post by wildknight on Jul 6, 2014 15:30:49 GMT -5
If you mean what sect of Christianity, we just believe directly what the bible says. That's what every Christian group claims. "Non-denominational" churches are some of the biggest shams in the Christian world... with all due respect to any non-Denominational Christians. Without doctrine, tradition, and oversight, a pastor can start claiming anything he wants... |
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 6, 2014 15:32:27 GMT -5
We don't belong to a church body, period. We haven't been to one in about 6 years, because my mother used to type the daily Church newsletter and just kept getting anxiety from it. So we left. And never went to Church again. If you mean what sect of Christianity, we just believe directly what the bible says.
They just have a few facts wrong. Nothing significant, I suppose. They are well aware of the basics, as you stated above. I suppose not being entirely informed isn't going to kill them.
Your real concern then should be getting them, and yourself, into a church. The reality is that God instructs us to partake in fellowship ("koinonia" in the Greek) regularly, including Holy Communion, with our fellow Christians. When a Christian says "I don't need to attend church to worship God" what they're really saying is "I don't need to be obedient to God." That's a problem. Please don't take this harshly, but I take issue when I hear a Christian say "I just believe what the Bible says." The Bible was written in completely different languages than we now speak by people from completely different cultures than we live in, over a period of thousands of years. In it's original form, the Bible had no punctuation, no paragraphs, no chapters. The Bible is inspired and inerrant, but the interpretations of the Bible that we currently have are not. Furthermore, when people read the Bible, they tend to rely on isogesis (that is, understanding the Bible using external understanding) rather than exegesis (understanding the Bible based on the Bible itself). It's very easy to take a single Bible passage and misinterpret it to mean something that it was never intended to say. The great majority of the heresies that have resulted in false religions began that way, to say nothing of a lot of the supposed "contradictions" that the anti-theists are always "finding" in the text. Simply reading the Bible and assuming that you properly understand what was intended is a very dangerous path. Precisely! That's why I rely on Youth Group to fully understand what I am reading. Our youth minister even said the exact same thing, that reading a single piece can bring it out of context.
I've tried to get us to go back in the past, but we are still searching for a church that has people we know and a good pastor. The one that my youth minister is from is okay, but the pastor is misleading at times, or at least I've heard from very trust worthy sources.
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Post by wildknight on Jul 6, 2014 15:33:43 GMT -5
The one that my youth minister is from is okay, but the pastor is misleading at times, or at least I've heard from very trust worthy sources. [/p][/quote] That's a huge warning signal, and you're smart to avoid getting too involved there |
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 6, 2014 15:36:28 GMT -5
The one that my youth minister is from is okay, but the pastor is misleading at times, or at least I've heard from very trust worthy sources. Yeah, it's so hard to really find a good one. I really don't want to end up at a church where nobody in our family goes to. It may come to that, though.
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Post by wildknight on Jul 6, 2014 15:40:08 GMT -5
Yeah, it's so hard to really find a good one. I really don't want to end up at a church where nobody in our family goes to. It may come to that, though.
In the end, you need to be sure that you are being fed spiritually. If your family won't go, that can't be an excuse for you not to. I'm glad you're involved with Youth, but you need to be in worship. |
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 6, 2014 15:44:39 GMT -5
Yeah, it's so hard to really find a good one. I really don't want to end up at a church where nobody in our family goes to. It may come to that, though.
In the end, you need to be sure that you are being fed spiritually. If your family won't go, that can't be an excuse for you not to. I'm glad you're involved with Youth, but you need to be in worship. I will gladly go to Church by myself when I'm on my own, but it's just the matter of living by my parents' schedule. If I persist in insisting enough, I'm sure they would be willing to go some where. They are no less eager to follow God than I am. |
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 6, 2014 15:46:42 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone has already posted this one, but it can apply to many situations. 
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Post by wildknight on Jul 6, 2014 16:20:03 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone has already posted this one, but it can apply to many situations.
Yep, it's funny how much we embarrass ourselves attempting to avoid being embarrassed. |
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 6, 2014 16:30:46 GMT -5
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Post by iodill8 on Jul 9, 2014 19:01:22 GMT -5
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 10, 2014 19:27:24 GMT -5
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Post by wildknight on Jul 10, 2014 19:34:40 GMT -5
Christians who tell people that there is no Hell really worry me. "47 And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell, 48 ‘where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched." - Jesus Christ (Mark 9: 47 & 48) We can either conclude that Jesus was making outright lying, or that there is a Hell and some people will go there. If you conclude that Jesus was a liar, why call yourself a Christian? |
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Post by pinksparklepuff on Jul 10, 2014 19:36:08 GMT -5
Antarctica also has Leopard seals.  Adorable, right?  AAAAAH, NEVERMIND, NEVERMIND! |
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Post by wildknight on Jul 10, 2014 19:36:55 GMT -5
Leopard seals will positively destroy you.
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