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Post by wildknight on Jul 20, 2014 21:35:27 GMT -5
i remember the good old days when a people were fired if they broke kayfabe, or spoke out of school. ziggler is lucky he has a job... Yeah, I like Zigglers work but I wouldn't shed a tear if he'd gotten what he actually deserved. |
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Post by setokaiba on Jul 20, 2014 21:35:42 GMT -5
the real news so far is roman almost did a different move.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jul 20, 2014 21:35:44 GMT -5
I disagree completely. If he just loses all of the time (and I'm not sure if you're one of the ones complaining that he beat Miz of not), then there's really no final push to give.....If he looks weak the whole time, then having him lose at the end again will just make the other guy seem useless. absolutely stupid. Yes. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 20, 2014 21:36:03 GMT -5
As was Orton, HBK, Miz, Berto and Punk If you're dream is to see Ziggler as the main champ of WWE for months. I hate to tell you it's not going to happen. Nope. I know better than to wish for that. He could be a good IC champ while BNB recovers. That's all I'm asking for |
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 20, 2014 21:36:03 GMT -5
I disagree completely. If he just loses all of the time (and I'm not sure if you're one of the ones complaining that he beat Miz of not), then there's really no final push to give.....If he looks weak the whole time, then having him lose at the end again will just make the other guy seem useless. He's a part timer who hasn't had a good match in almost a decade. I could give a crap if Jericho has any credibility. Wyatt is an up-and-coming talent with a gimmick that the company has invested enormously into, and then subsequently buried in two consecutive rivalries. Disagree all you want. I twas absolutely stupid. (You're also wrong about the "if he loses all the time" bit... Kofi does nothing but job, but somehow maintains his status as a guy who "tests" guys for the midcard. HHH hasn't won a significant match in years, but is still a big deal. Kane hasn't accomplished anything of note in forever yet is still a threat. When was the last time Orton won a match?) "I twas absolutely stupid" |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jul 20, 2014 21:36:28 GMT -5
He's a part timer who hasn't had a good match in almost a decade. I could give a crap if Jericho has any credibility. Wyatt is an up-and-coming talent with a gimmick that the company has invested enormously into, and then subsequently buried in two consecutive rivalries. Disagree all you want. I twas absolutely stupid. (You're also wrong about the "if he loses all the time" bit... Kofi does nothing but job, but somehow maintains his status as a guy who "tests" guys for the midcard. HHH hasn't won a significant match in years, but is still a big deal. Kane hasn't accomplished anything of note in forever yet is still a threat. When was the last time Orton won a match?) "I twas absolutely stupid" Yes. |
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Post by WSS? on Jul 20, 2014 21:36:34 GMT -5
the real news so far is roman almost did a different move. The speed at which you and Raven turn on Roman utterly amazes me. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 20, 2014 21:36:44 GMT -5
the real news so far is roman almost did a different move. He's been on the ground for a good five minutes now |
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Post by muta75 on Jul 20, 2014 21:36:53 GMT -5
i remember the good old days when a people were fired if they broke kayfabe, or spoke out of school. ziggler is lucky he has a job... As was Orton, HBK, Miz, Berto and Punk when did those 5 bury the business to the level ziggler did? tell me, i'll wait.. |
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Post by setokaiba on Jul 20, 2014 21:37:19 GMT -5
the real news so far is roman almost did a different move. The speed at which you and Raven turn on Roman utterly amazes me. I haven't turned on him lol |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 20, 2014 21:37:36 GMT -5
As was Orton, HBK, Miz, Berto and Punk when did those 5 bury the business to the level ziggler did? tell me, i'll wait.. Tell me how he "buried" the business plz |
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 20, 2014 21:38:02 GMT -5
As was Orton, HBK, Miz, Berto and Punk when did those 5 bury the business to the level ziggler did? tell me, i'll wait.. Berto is a fair point in terms of burying the business, but only because he's boring |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 20, 2014 21:38:54 GMT -5
The speed at which you and Raven turn on Roman utterly amazes me. I haven't turned on him lol The guy is still a fav. But I'm not blind to the fact that they are still hiding him |
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Post by wildknight on Jul 20, 2014 21:39:25 GMT -5
The whole "Roman Reigns only does 6 moves" thing is stupid to begin with. You'd be hard pressed to name ANYBODY at the top of the company right now who regularly does more than 6 unique moves in the course of a normal match. It's mostly kickpunch, rest holds, and generic moves that any idiot can execute like the suplex...
SO
To get into the "Reigns can't do moves, yo!" argument, you have to believe that either
1) Roman Reigns simply cannot execute such complex maneuvers as the headlock and armbar
or
2) Every other guy is doing a whole lot of moves that we never ever see on TV
Unless one of those things is true, Reigns works just like every other guy in the Main Event picture.
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Post by setokaiba on Jul 20, 2014 21:39:33 GMT -5
when did those 5 bury the business to the level ziggler did? tell me, i'll wait.. Berto is a fair point in terms of burying the business, but only because he's boring The worse Deal Rio ever did in a interview was say he hates the Miz personally. But I believe the Bellas said the same thing when they left WWE. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 20, 2014 21:39:35 GMT -5
the real news so far is roman almost did a different move. The speed at which you and Raven turn on Roman utterly amazes me. He is still a fav. But I'm not blind that they are hiding him in this match |
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Post by ethanm1834 on Jul 20, 2014 21:39:58 GMT -5
I know WWe has a boner for Cena vs. Reigns and they like teasing it, but you know in a fatal four way match it's totally unbelievable for them not to touch.
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Post by muta75 on Jul 20, 2014 21:40:30 GMT -5
when did those 5 bury the business to the level ziggler did? tell me, i'll wait.. Tell me how he "buried" the business plz trashing the moves creative make, trashing randy and cena being THE guys...to name a couple, now please how did the men you mentioned trash the company that pays them? |
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 20, 2014 21:40:34 GMT -5
The whole "Roman Reigns only does 6 moves" thing is stupid to begin with. You'd be hard pressed to name ANYBODY at the top of the company right now who regularly does more than 6 unique moves in the course of a normal match. It's mostly kickpunch, rest holds, and generic moves that any idiot can execute like the suplex... SO To get into the "Reigns can't do moves, yo!" argument, you have to believe that either 1) Roman Reigns simply cannot execute such complex maneuvers as the headlock and armbar or 2) Every other guy is doing a whole lot of moves that we never ever see on TV Unless one of those things is true, Reigns works just like every other guy in the Main Event picture. Even Randy Orton has a pretty minimal moveset. |
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Post by setokaiba on Jul 20, 2014 21:40:36 GMT -5
The whole "Roman Reigns only does 6 moves" thing is stupid to begin with. You'd be hard pressed to name ANYBODY at the top of the company right now who regularly does more than 6 unique moves in the course of a normal match. It's mostly kickpunch, rest holds, and generic moves that any idiot can execute like the suplex... SO To get into the "Reigns can't do moves, yo!" argument, you have to believe that either 1) Roman Reigns simply cannot execute such complex maneuvers as the headlock and armbar or 2) Every other guy is doing a whole lot of moves that we never ever see on TV Unless one of those things is true, Reigns works just like every other guy in the Main Event picture. But when it was Daniel Bryan |
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