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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 20, 2014 21:55:01 GMT -5
I really don't know how I still like him. I have every reason to hate him. I had problems with Punk for years. I lost all respect when he walked out. It was the final straw. It didn't bother me. But hurting the business with radio talk shows does. |
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Post by wildknight on Jul 20, 2014 21:55:49 GMT -5
Yes, but he also did it fairly regularly in radio interviews and stuff. Punk has no respect for the business. CM Punks one true love is CM Punk D...did you just make Raven's point? :eek: No(?) I've never defended what Punk did, to my knowledge. Raven might want to say "Punk did it too and got away with it so Ziggler should get away with it!" but me acknowledging that Punk did it too doesn't mean I agree with the second part. Punk shouldn't have gotten away with it. The difference is that at the time, Punk was a top guy, and therefore had some degree of "protection" much like HBK had "protection" from repercussions of the Curtain Call. Ziggler was a midcard guy and got punished, just like HHH. It's not right, but that's the way it is. |
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Post by setokaiba on Jul 20, 2014 21:56:10 GMT -5
I'll always be a fan of Punk but I agree he has a huge ego.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jul 20, 2014 21:56:23 GMT -5
I had problems with Punk for years. I lost all respect when he walked out. It was the final straw. It didn't bother me. But hurting the business with radio talk shows does. I'd say walking out of the business was worse than hurting the business with talk shows. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 21:56:32 GMT -5
So, this was just a normal PPV, judging by reactions.
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 20, 2014 21:57:01 GMT -5
D...did you just make Raven's point? :eek: No(?) I've never defended what Punk did, to my knowledge. Raven might want to say "Punk did it too and got away with it so Ziggler should get away with it!" but me acknowledging that Punk did it too doesn't mean I agree with the second part. Punk shouldn't have gotten away with it. The difference is that at the time, Punk was a top guy, and therefore had some degree of "protection" much like HBK had "protection" from repercussions of the Curtain Call. Ziggler was a midcard guy and got punished, just like HHH. It's not right, but that's the way it is.That's all I wanted you to acknowledge |
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 20, 2014 21:57:16 GMT -5
It didn't bother me. But hurting the business with radio talk shows does. I'd say walking out of the business was worse than hurting the business with talk shows. It is, but I don't feel it that way for some reason. *shrugs* |
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Post by wildknight on Jul 20, 2014 21:57:21 GMT -5
Yes, but he also did it fairly regularly in radio interviews and stuff. Punk has no respect for the business. CM Punks one true love is CM Punk i would argue it was known Punk was going to do that stuff, but yes he is an egomaniac.. ... I'm pretty sure nobody at WWE approved of some of the stuff Punk said on the radio. If they did, they've got no business being upset at what Ziggler said. Punk openly talked about how "fake" some moves are, etc. |
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Post by prestige85 on Jul 20, 2014 21:57:45 GMT -5
Cenawinslol Probably one of the most boring PPVs I've ever seen. This was just like an extended episode of Smackdown. Boring PPV with a few good matches. Even the Y2J/Wyatt match wasn't anything special. The Uso/Wyatts match was good but it's boring seeing them fight each other for the 100th time and the outcome was predictable anyway. Yawn. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 20, 2014 21:57:49 GMT -5
I'll always be a fan of Punk but I agree he has a huge ego. I like Punk. But I lost a lot of respect for him after he walked away like a little baby |
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Post by muta75 on Jul 20, 2014 21:57:51 GMT -5
Punk quit his job...
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Post by setokaiba on Jul 20, 2014 21:58:54 GMT -5
Cena "put over" the Usos and Reigns
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jul 20, 2014 21:59:22 GMT -5
Boring PPV with a few good matches. Even the Y2J/Wyatt match wasn't anything special. Which should have been expected seeing as Jericho is at least a decade out of his prime and covered in ring rust. He was also facing Wyatt, so there's that too. |
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Post by prestige85 on Jul 20, 2014 21:59:26 GMT -5
So, this was just a normal PPV, judging by reactions. No it was basically an extended version of Smackdown except the main event had a title match where the odds were stacked against Cena. |
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Post by wildknight on Jul 20, 2014 21:59:47 GMT -5
That's an awfully loose way of looking at what happened. He was talent under contract. If an athlete quits his team because he's not getting the playing time he thinks he deserves, we generally don't respect that. If an actor leaves a movie he's working on because his role won't be as big as he wants it to be, we generally don't respect that. Punk "quit" in the most infantile sense of the word. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 20, 2014 21:59:58 GMT -5
Cena "put over" the Usos and Reigns Should put over Reigns The Usos were put over tonight by simply beating the only tag team that has ONE guy with talent |
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Post by muta75 on Jul 20, 2014 22:00:50 GMT -5
i would argue it was known Punk was going to do that stuff, but yes he is an egomaniac.. ... I'm pretty sure nobody at WWE approved of some of the stuff Punk said on the radio. If they did, they've got no business being upset at what Ziggler said. Punk openly talked about how "fake" some moves are, etc. punk talking about how fake the moves are is no less breaking kayfabe than the curtain call. major player equity in effect..ziggler is not a player..i didn't like punk chirping any less than i liked the curtain call. but as a fan of wrestling for 30+ years i know top guys get a pass on many things. |
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 20, 2014 22:01:05 GMT -5
Woo! Summerslam! 
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Post by wildknight on Jul 20, 2014 22:01:17 GMT -5
Cena "put over" the Usos and Reigns Should put over Reigns The Usos were put over tonight by simply beating the only tag team that has ONE guy with talent Truth. At this point going over the Wyatts was a much bigger boost to the Usos than Cena's endorsement. ... if I haven't mentioned this, The Ascension sucks. I cannot believe how much hype those two guys have. If sucking were an Olympic Event, they'd get the gold. |
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Post by wildknight on Jul 20, 2014 22:02:16 GMT -5
... I'm pretty sure nobody at WWE approved of some of the stuff Punk said on the radio. If they did, they've got no business being upset at what Ziggler said. Punk openly talked about how "fake" some moves are, etc. punk talking about how fake the moves are is no less breaking kayfabe than the curtain call. major player equity in effect..ziggler is not a player..i didn't like punk chirping any less than i liked the curtain call. but as a fan of wrestling for 30+ years i know top guys get a pass on many things. Yeah, no doubt at all about that. I know WHY he got a pass, but I don't have to like it. |
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