WTF

[Rush]

I swear this game has to be the worst. Online has been horrible. They killed the last man standing match, pin system has to go to be the worse ever, also  you Can spam the same taunt till you get finisher. What happened to getting penalized for that

[ethanm1834]

I don't play online but yeah I noticed you could do that in the game. THe spamming taunts until you get a finisher. I never really liked that dynamic, so I would imagine it'd be a headache for people online.

[Straight Edge Steve]

Nov 30, 2013 2:23:16 GMT -5 ethanm1834 said:

I don't play online but yeah I noticed you could do that in the game. THe spamming taunts until you get a finisher. I never really liked that dynamic, so I would imagine it'd be a headache for people online.

I actually unintentionally abuse taunts OUTSIDE of Online sometimes. Eventually it forced me to set the "Momentum Gain from Taunts" bar to minimum

[Deleted]

I mainly agree with the OP's points, but what I don't agree on is that they killed Last Man Standing. Sure, it isn't as enjoyable as it used to be, but at least it ends now. I mean, SvR 2010 onwards (ever since the new pin mechanic was introduced), me and my friend would play LMS matches and they'd never end, due to the fact that it's very easy to get to the bar and let go at the appropriate time.

[Double-H215]

Nov 30, 2013 1:03:45 GMT -5 Rush said:

I swear this game has to be the worst. Online has been horrible. They killed the last man standing match, pin system has to go to be the worse ever, also  you Can spam the same taunt till you get finisher. What happened to getting penalized for that

There was a problem with the pin system last year, but not this year. It's OK to say that you're not good at it, but the chances of your body being on red recieving 2 signatures and 2 finishers (sometimes just 2 finishers), you're gonna be done for.  You might want to use resiliency after being hit with 2nd finisher, especially after the 3rd one.

[Rush]

The KO bar should placed in three diffrent places close when the match start, in the middle when you are in orange, and at the end of the bar when your in the red. The randomness of it is screwy, I had multiple times where the bar was far away in the beginning of the match and it moved so slow that you have one chance of getting it. Not to mention there's a shitty lag online.

[Double-H215]

Nov 30, 2013 15:40:29 GMT -5 Rush said:

The KO bar should placed in three diffrent places close when the match start, in the middle when you are in orange, and at the end of the bar when your in the red. The randomness of it is screwy, I had multiple times where the bar was far away in the beginning of the match and it moved so slow that you have one chance of getting it. Not to mention there's a s***ty lag online.

Hey, I get cha, but there's a pattern going on. It sounds like you just gotten the game and just went online (bad move if so). Yeah, if you're not that badly hurt, then the bar will move slow in the beginning. But if you're badly hurt, then it's gonna move real fast.

To have less lag you need to have a session made by yourself, because others are lagging as hell for some reason. There still gonna be some lag, but less of it.

[Rush]

Nov 30, 2013 16:41:42 GMT -5 Double-H215 said:

Nov 30, 2013 15:40:29 GMT -5 Rush said:

The KO bar should placed in three diffrent places close when the match start, in the middle when you are in orange, and at the end of the bar when your in the red. The randomness of it is screwy, I had multiple times where the bar was far away in the beginning of the match and it moved so slow that you have one chance of getting it. Not to mention there's a s***ty lag online.

Hey, I get cha, but there's a pattern going on. It sounds like you just gotten the game and just went online (bad move if so). Yeah, if you're not that badly hurt, then the bar will move slow in the beginning. But if you're badly hurt, then it's gonna move real fast.

To have less lag you need to have a session made by yourself, because others are lagging as hell for some reason. There still gonna be some lag, but less of it.

I have had this game since release and I played a lot of single player. I can reverse and kickout fine offline. There is just a annoying delay online much like svr2010. 

[xman321]

See this is why I didn't get Xbox live, I'm getting PS3 version of 14 only for community creations

[SoonDragon67]

Nov 30, 2013 15:08:37 GMT -5 Double-H215 said:

Nov 30, 2013 1:03:45 GMT -5 Rush said:

I swear this game has to be the worst. Online has been horrible. They killed the last man standing match, pin system has to go to be the worse ever, also  you Can spam the same taunt till you get finisher. What happened to getting penalized for that

There was a problem with the pin system last year, but not this year. It's OK to say that you're not good at it, but the chances of your body being on red recieving 2 signatures and 2 finishers (sometimes just 2 finishers), you're gonna be done for.  You might want to use resiliency after being hit with 2nd finisher, especially after the 3rd one.

The problem with that is that you're basically being forced into losing, in a game where strategy and actual skill has little to do with anything.

[Double-H215]

Dec 1, 2013 11:39:54 GMT -5 SoonDragon67 said:

Nov 30, 2013 15:08:37 GMT -5 Double-H215 said:

There was a problem with the pin system last year, but not this year. It's OK to say that you're not good at it, but the chances of your body being on red recieving 2 signatures and 2 finishers (sometimes just 2 finishers), you're gonna be done for.  You might want to use resiliency after being hit with 2nd finisher, especially after the 3rd one.

The problem with that is that you're basically being forced into losing, in a game where strategy and actual skill has little to do with anything.

Well see, that's a problem. Not in the way you're talking about it. If we are talking about somebody beating you til you're red, and then hit you with a finisher, skills should have nothing to do with you kicking out. When It comes down to that point, you should only have hope for luck and have a chance of kicking out, which already exist in the current game. Strategy wise, you should be avoiding cases like this.

You're not being forced to lose, you're being challenged to make a comeback.

[SoonDragon67]

Dec 1, 2013 17:37:17 GMT -5 Double-H215 said:

Dec 1, 2013 11:39:54 GMT -5 SoonDragon67 said:

The problem with that is that you're basically being forced into losing, in a game where strategy and actual skill has little to do with anything.

Well see, that's a problem. Not in the way you're talking about it. If we are talking about somebody beating you til you're red, and then hit you with a finisher, skills should have nothing to do with you kicking out. When It comes down to that point, you should only have hope for luck and have a chance of kicking out, which already exist in the current game. Strategy wise, you should be avoiding cases like this.

You're not being forced to lose, you're being challenged to make a comeback.

In multiplayer I'm pretty sure that spamming moves is the best offense. Like I said, with the way the game works now their is no skill involved in anyway whatsoever.

[Double-H215]

Dec 3, 2013 17:22:59 GMT -5 SoonDragon67 said:

Dec 1, 2013 17:37:17 GMT -5 Double-H215 said:

Well see, that's a problem. Not in the way you're talking about it. If we are talking about somebody beating you til you're red, and then hit you with a finisher, skills should have nothing to do with you kicking out. When It comes down to that point, you should only have hope for luck and have a chance of kicking out, which already exist in the current game. Strategy wise, you should be avoiding cases like this.

You're not being forced to lose, you're being challenged to make a comeback.

In multiplayer I'm pretty sure that spamming moves is the best offense. Like I said, with the way the game works now their is no skill involved in anyway whatsoever.

Maybe that's true, but you can only get spammed by others, if you allow it to happen. I mean, you can counter any attacks.

And truth be told, your best offense is your unexpected attack, not spamming.

[Double-H215]

Dec 5, 2013 19:43:55 GMT -5 Double-H215 said:

Dec 3, 2013 17:22:59 GMT -5 SoonDragon67 said:

In multiplayer I'm pretty sure that spamming moves is the best offense. Like I said, with the way the game works now their is no skill involved in anyway whatsoever.

Maybe that's true, but you can only get spammed by others, if you allow it to happen. I mean, you can counter any attacks.

And the truth will be told: Your best offense is your unexpected attack, not spamming.

[SoonDragon67]

Dec 5, 2013 19:43:55 GMT -5 Double-H215 said:

Dec 3, 2013 17:22:59 GMT -5 SoonDragon67 said:

In multiplayer I'm pretty sure that spamming moves is the best offense. Like I said, with the way the game works now their is no skill involved in anyway whatsoever.

Maybe that's true, but you can only get spammed by others, if you allow it to happen. I mean, you can counter any attacks.

And truth be told, your best offense is your unexpected attack, not spamming.

Right...

Yeah, um, what?

[Straight Edge Steve]

Dec 5, 2013 19:49:15 GMT -5 SoonDragon67 said:

Dec 5, 2013 19:43:55 GMT -5 Double-H215 said:

Maybe that's true, but you can only get spammed by others, if you allow it to happen. I mean, you can counter any attacks.

And truth be told, your best offense is your unexpected attack, not spamming.

Right...

Yeah, um, what?

Tell him, almighty omniscient one!

[Double-H215]

Dec 5, 2013 19:49:15 GMT -5 SoonDragon67 said:

Dec 5, 2013 19:43:55 GMT -5 Double-H215 said:

Maybe that's true, but you can only get spammed by others, if you allow it to happen. I mean, you can counter any attacks.

And truth be told, your best offense is your unexpected attack, not spamming.

Right...

Yeah, um, what?

I'm trying to tell you that skills are in the game, because the reversals. If you're given the ability to counter any attacks, then what the hell is spamming to you? ...Nothing. And if you can fool your opponents on when you're gonna attack, then you will always have the element of surprise on your side.

Can a good player be cheated? No, not unless he/she are off their game, or become too cocky of their dominance.

If you're on the PS3, I can show what I mean.

[SoonDragon67]

Dec 5, 2013 20:21:57 GMT -5 Double-H215 said:

Dec 5, 2013 19:49:15 GMT -5 SoonDragon67 said:

Right...

Yeah, um, what?

I'm trying to tell you that skills are in the game, because the reversals. If you're given the ability to counter any attacks, then what the hell is spamming to you? ...Nothing. And if you can fool your opponents on when you're gonna attack, then you will always have the element of surprise on your side.

Can a good player be cheated? No, not unless he/she are off their game, or become too cocky of their dominance.

If you're on the PS3, I can show what I mean.

You sure you aren't talking about another sports series? What you're describing does not sound like the same game I am.

[Double-H215]

Dec 5, 2013 20:22:57 GMT -5 SoonDragon67 said:

Dec 5, 2013 20:21:57 GMT -5 Double-H215 said:

I'm trying to tell you that skills are in the game, because the reversals. If you're given the ability to counter any attacks, then what the hell is spamming to you? ...Nothing. And if you can fool your opponents on when you're gonna attack, then you will always have the element of surprise on your side.

Can a good player be cheated? No, not unless he/she are off their game, or become too cocky of their dominance.

If you're on the PS3, I can show what I mean.

You sure you aren't talking about another sports series? What you're describing does not sound like the same game I am.

Nah, it's why we are all here. It's the same game.