Halo.

[SoonDragon67]

Dec 1, 2013 21:58:02 GMT -5 Rush said:

I remember playing halo 1 nonstop beat the game so many times. Payed the 2nd a couple times but not as much as the third. I remember being pumped for halo 3 but I got red ringed before release and bye the time I got my console back the halo craze was over and I tried playing 3 had no ambition to do it. Played halfway through the first mission and said screw this turned it off and returned it to gamestop

Half of the post is about Halo 3?

Half...

Half Life...

Halo 3...

HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED!

[Rush]

Dec 1, 2013 19:12:27 GMT -5 ethanm1834 said:

I loved Halo. I remember many tournaments on huge television screens me and my 3 buddies against other groups. Playing for hours on end. I judge games by the amount of entertainment I receive from them. Those are great memories for me, so in my heart Halo will always have a great place.

I'm like this even though I loathe the series now halo 1 will always have a special meaning to me. 

[SoonDragon67]

Dec 1, 2013 22:00:55 GMT -5 Rush said:

Dec 1, 2013 19:12:27 GMT -5 ethanm1834 said:

I loved Halo. I remember many tournaments on huge television screens me and my 3 buddies against other groups. Playing for hours on end. I judge games by the amount of entertainment I receive from them. Those are great memories for me, so in my heart Halo will always have a great place.

I'm like this even though I loathe the series now halo 1 will always have a special meaning to me. 

Halo 1...

The word 'one' has three letters in it...

Half Life 3 confirmed.

[miketheratguy]

Some of my dislike of the Halo franchise can be attributed to the fact that, in general, I don't like sci-fi shooters. They just plain disinterest me. Unless they're based on an established franchise that I already enjoy from another medium (such as Star Wars: Battlefront) I tend to not care. But everyone jerked off into my ear about Halo is the second coming of Half Life and how I simply MUST try it because it's absolutely the BEST thing EVER invented by mankind and bla bla bla. Whatever, it was a standard sci-fi shooter with bland enemies, a generic protagonist, irritating level design and pretty graphics.

BUT U KIN LINK 70 EXBUCKS TOGETHER TU PLAIE ONLYNE MULTIPLE PLAYER ZOMG WTF HOLY   fuck you.

Dec 1, 2013 20:53:58 GMT -5 wildknight said:

Dec 1, 2013 20:48:37 GMT -5 miketheratguy said:

You do, it's the season for getting sick. That's a sweet picture of Zelda that you posted though.

... that's phlegm. I was coughing.

At least you had that nifty picture of an awesome game to remind you of happier things.

[wildknight]

"Awesome game" and "Legend of Zelda" together LOL

Unless of course it's "Legend of Zelda is not an awesome game series. In fact it $#@!ing sucks diseased monkey testicles."

[miketheratguy]

No, as in "Wildknight is the only person in the known universe who doesn't realize that the Zelda games get all the praise that they do because they're actually awesome games unlike, for example, the Halo series".

EDIT: I love that on the official site Sam at one point explained that saying something "sucks" is okay but if one adds extra details such as- and he actually specified this- sucks "donkey balls"- then it's not okay.

[wildknight]

Dec 2, 2013 0:32:35 GMT -5 miketheratguy said:

No, as in "Wildknight is the only person in the known universe who doesn't realize that the Zelda games get all the praise that they do because they're actually awesome games unlike, for example, the Halo series".

I'm not the only one, believe it or not. There are entire web pages devoted to the giant suck hole that is the Zelda series, and multiple videos on YouTube dedicated to making fun of the yipping chihuahua fanboys the series has created for itself over the years. Some of them have an even deeper hatred for the series than I do, and come up with some really interesting theories as to why the whole thing makes no $#@!ing sense whatsoever, involves extremely limited and repetitive gameplay, and yet continues to be a juggernaut in the gaming community.

In the end, the reality is that Zelda is no more popular than God of Gears of Halo Wars or any of the other $#@! out there, it's just the only one whose fans seem to fail utterly to understand why others aren't as devoted to the garbage as they are.

[miketheratguy]

Actually I know there are a lot of people out there who hate Zelda games, and I know that a lot of them probably hate it because of the relentless worship the series has always gotten. Of course I'm on the different side of the fence because I've been a fan since the first game, the reason being the simple sense of pace, accomplishment, and exploration that the games always seem to capably provide. If someone doesn't like that style of game I can understand why Zelda means nothing to them.

I still think that Halo's worse, in my opinion it's a game (maybe a whole series, I wouldn't know) that's much simpler in design and scope, a game that's a much shallower experience for the player. That's one of the reasons why I don't get the hype for it. Everything about Halo is singled out for praise as if it did anything revolutionary. If people everywhere worshiped Link I'd find it strange but I'd shrug and move on. But the people who go nuts for Master Chief and raving about how he's this amazing protagonist are working themselves up over what is literally nothing more than a space suit and a gun.

[justinlynch3]

I haven't played Zelda much, but it doesn't look like it would interest me. Looks like something you'd need that nostalgia factor to truly enjoy.

[ethanm1834]

Theres huge fandoms for several games. No game or series is going to be perfect. Halo provided my entertainment. I also love some Zelda, more for nostalgia than for their newer stuff. Skyward Sword was straight up awful.

[miketheratguy]

Halo can supplicate my salami.

Dec 2, 2013 1:14:28 GMT -5 justinlynch3 said:

I haven't played Zelda much, but it doesn't look like it would interest me. Looks like something you'd need that nostalgia factor to truly enjoy.

Since I did in fact grow up with the series from the beginning there's undoubtedly some nostalgia there, but I found each subsequent Zelda game after the first to be an extremely satisfying experience. Again, it's the balance of exploration, puzzles, and discovery that feels so well-done to me. Though Ocarina of Time was the last game I really played all the way through, I don't really have any idea what the series is like today.

[wildknight]

Ocarina of Time & Majora's Mask have got to be the worst pieces of $#@! in the entire history of gaming. I'd rather spend eternity with Superman 64.

[miketheratguy]

Even for you that's some tall hyperbole. You literally compared one of the absolute highest-rated games in existence to one that's notorious as quite possibly the worst.

If you really mean it, then I expect you to follow through by uploading footage of yourself playing -and dutifully enjoying- a lengthy Superman 64 session to prove your love.

[wildknight]

Dec 2, 2013 5:32:33 GMT -5 miketheratguy said:

Even for you that's some tall hyperbole. You literally compared one of the absolute highest-rated games in existence to one that's notorious as quite possibly the worst.

If you really mean it, then I expect you to follow through by uploading footage of yourself playing -and dutifully enjoying- a lengthy Superman 64 session to prove your love.

I don't love Superman 64. That game was $#@!ing terrible. Sadly I actually rented it once. The person working at the rental shop even tried to warn me, but I was all like "but I love Superman!" One of the worst gaming experiences of my entire life...

... and I'd still rather play it than Ocarina or Mask. Those idiotic games transformed my apathy for LoZ into raging hate.

[miketheratguy]

Dec 2, 2013 5:38:41 GMT -5 wildknight said:

Dec 2, 2013 5:32:33 GMT -5 miketheratguy said:

Even for you that's some tall hyperbole. You literally compared one of the absolute highest-rated games in existence to one that's notorious as quite possibly the worst.

If you really mean it, then I expect you to follow through by uploading footage of yourself playing -and dutifully enjoying- a lengthy Superman 64 session to prove your love.

... and I'd still rather play it than Ocarina or Mask. Those idiotic games transformed my apathy for LoZ into raging hate.

Okay, I want to honestly hear you out here. No hyperbole now:        Why?

[wildknight]

Because every single element of the games is just plain bad. They look like crap, the camera angles are awful, the combat is bad, the puzzles are $#@!ing nonsense that I have NO idea how anyone ever solved in the days before the internet, don't even get me started on the supposed plotlines of those games.

As a broad indictment of the series... I simply cannot imagine why anyone could possibly give a $#@! about the same chibi elf saving the same idiot princess from the same lackwit wizard over and over and over. It's like someone took the first Super Mario Bros game with it's "Thank you Mario, but our Princess is in another castle!" structure and stretched it into three decades of $#@!ing terrible games... but those two games in particular were just offensively stupid and childish, and the goony theories about Majora's Mask being Link's journey through purgatory after having died in Ocarina are infinitely more entertaining than the actual plot of the game could ever have been.

[Deleted]

I've never played any Zelda game, and I probably won't. Usually when there's a lot of fanboys, it's probably a terrible game (series).

[miketheratguy]

Yeah the plots are...well, the plots are basically nonexistent. If any true Zelda fan tries to tell you that the plot of these things is much deeper than one of the NES Mega Man games they're lying not just to you but also themselves.

I don't think that the games look particularly bad, Ocarina of Time was about as good as the Nintendo 64 was capable of looking back then (though to be fair I think that, in general, PS1 and N64 games- these included- age the most poorly). Combat's pretty simple but I don't personally feel that this was bad either, I believe that OoT was the first game to have a "lock-on" camera function and collision detection was pretty great. I always found the Zelda games to have pretty good combat for its genre. Speaking of cameras, I do find them to be fussier than I'd like (though, again, the lock-on feature snaps the camera squarely behind Link which is pretty handy).

The puzzles, well...if anyone's going to hate anything about Zelda it's going to be those. I don't seek out puzzle games but I like the way that they're implemented in Zelda, if one has the determination to solve them they provide a pretty immense sense of accomplishment.

Yeah, we did it before the internet. Look up the Ocarina of Time "Water Temple" when you have some spare time. That shit would have made you put your fist through a wall.

[wildknight]

"Sense of accomplishment" is only a thing if you give a $#@! in the first place. Sitting through all of DKR was difficult, but it didn't give me any sense of accomplishment.

[miketheratguy]

Dec 2, 2013 6:02:41 GMT -5 Gremer said:

I've never played any Zelda game, and I probably won't. Usually when there's a lot of fanboys, it's probably a terrible game (series).

I find that it depends on the fanboys in question. I was a diehard fan of Grand Theft auto years before 98% of the other mother fuckers out there yet by the third game (the first one in 3d, aka the first one that most people suddenly decided to care about) everyone was humping the franchise like a bunch of sexually frustrated primates. Ask me and I'll tell you why I've always found the series to be appealing and why it was good before everyone else jumped on board. Ask any of them and you'll hear a bunch of randomized grunts, frat boy gibberish and the occasional claim that if you don't like it you're probably a homosexual.