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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 4, 2013 19:16:39 GMT -5
Yes, both are terrible. The PS controller has had multiple studies conclude how terrible it is for your hands, and to just throw away facts because of your personal preference only displays your ignorance and idiocy. Is a Playstation controller bad for hands? Yes, but I never said otherwise. Does a Playstation controller suck? Nope, but that's an opinion. Right, sure, the controller may destroy the lifetime of your hands, but who cares? The controller is great! Oh that toy happened to contain mercury that killed your kid? Who cares? That toy is great! |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 4, 2013 19:23:07 GMT -5
Is a Playstation controller bad for hands? Yes, but I never said otherwise. Does a Playstation controller suck? Nope, but that's an opinion. Right, sure, the controller may destroy the lifetime of your hands, but who cares? The controller is great! Oh that toy happened to contain mercury that killed your kid? Who cares? That toy is great! Nobody said the controller was great neither, smart one. Also, there's only long time consequences, not short term (that happen right on the spot) so regardless, people that use the controller aren't goign to notice. Also, judging by your logic, let's not let our children eat meat because it may not be done and they could die!!!! |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 4, 2013 19:28:40 GMT -5
Right, sure, the controller may destroy the lifetime of your hands, but who cares? The controller is great! Oh that toy happened to contain mercury that killed your kid? Who cares? That toy is great! Nobody said the controller was great neither, smart one. Also, there's only long time consequences, not short term (that happen right on the spot) so regardless, people that use the controller aren't goign to notice. Also, judging by your logic, let's not let our children eat meat because it may not be done and they could die!!!! Oh yeah, the controller's completely fine. It'll only damage your hands beyond repair and use when you're older, and just because you don't notice it now you're completely fine. Oh wait, what's that? People are already getting bad arthritis because of the controller after only 5 or so years of use? Um...we...um...well it's not like there's widespread cases or anything... Oh wait there are? Um...DAMN IT, RUN! |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 4, 2013 19:43:29 GMT -5
Nobody said the controller was great neither, smart one. Also, there's only long time consequences, not short term (that happen right on the spot) so regardless, people that use the controller aren't goign to notice. Also, judging by your logic, let's not let our children eat meat because it may not be done and they could die!!!! Oh yeah, the controller's completely fine. It'll only damage your hands beyond repair and use when you're older, and just because you don't notice it now you're completely fine. Oh wait, what's that? People are already getting bad arthritis because of the controller after only 5 or so years of use? Um...we...um...well it's not like there's widespread cases or anything... Oh wait there are? Um...DAMN IT, RUN! I like how you're saying it's fine, when nobody else has.... Please find another relevant argument since I've already agreed that it's bad for the hands. It's still a good controller though. Since I've been playing Sony games with the sony controller since they were made, and still have nothing wrong with my hands.....you can't say "5 years" either by the way. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 4, 2013 19:45:20 GMT -5
Oh yeah, the controller's completely fine. It'll only damage your hands beyond repair and use when you're older, and just because you don't notice it now you're completely fine. Oh wait, what's that? People are already getting bad arthritis because of the controller after only 5 or so years of use? Um...we...um...well it's not like there's widespread cases or anything... Oh wait there are? Um...DAMN IT, RUN! I like how you're saying it's fine, when nobody else has.... Please find another relevant argument since I've already agreed that it's bad for the hands. It's still a good controller though. Since I've been playing Sony games with the sony controller since they were made, and still have nothing wrong with my hands.....you can't say "5 years" either by the way. Actually I can, mainly because the first time I played on a PS controller was around 8 years ago and I started developing arthritis 3 years back, and they attributed it to the PS controller. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 4, 2013 19:53:36 GMT -5
I like how you're saying it's fine, when nobody else has.... Please find another relevant argument since I've already agreed that it's bad for the hands. It's still a good controller though. Since I've been playing Sony games with the sony controller since they were made, and still have nothing wrong with my hands.....you can't say "5 years" either by the way. Actually I can, mainly because the first time I played on a PS controller was around 8 years ago and I started developing arthritis 3 years back, and they attributed it to the PS controller. You do realize that although it admittedly does help cause arthritis, it is not the only factor of it all, correct? 1. No doctor, unless in an experiment, which all know has happened, can just say, "oh you have arthritis and it's because you played playstation." 2. You don't know. 3. It can be hereditary if your family members have bad bones, joints, arthritis, etc. 4. Who said that you gained arthritis from a PS controller? |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 4, 2013 19:57:54 GMT -5
Actually I can, mainly because the first time I played on a PS controller was around 8 years ago and I started developing arthritis 3 years back, and they attributed it to the PS controller. You do realize that although it admittedly does help cause arthritis, it is not the only factor of it all, correct? 1. No doctor, unless in an experiment, which all know has happened, can just say, "oh you have arthritis and it's because you played playstation." 2. You don't know. 3. It can be hereditary if your family members have bad bones, joints, arthritis, etc. 4. Who said that you gained arthritis from a PS controller? 1. You think I didn't have a test done to find out what was damaging my hands at the age of 12? 2.Really? 3.As far as I can go back in my family history nobody has had arthritis(Except me now...) 4.Oh I don't know...maybe it was that blonde chick who sells guns to fat rednecks. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 4, 2013 20:12:06 GMT -5
You do realize that although it admittedly does help cause arthritis, it is not the only factor of it all, correct? 1. No doctor, unless in an experiment, which all know has happened, can just say, "oh you have arthritis and it's because you played playstation." 2. You don't know. 3. It can be hereditary if your family members have bad bones, joints, arthritis, etc. 4. Who said that you gained arthritis from a PS controller? 1. You think I didn't have a test done to find out what was damaging my hands at the age of 12? 2.Really? 3.As far as I can go back in my family history nobody has had arthritis(Except me now...) 4.Oh I don't know...maybe it was that blonde chick who sells guns to fat rednecks. You were part of an experiment? I didn't think so. A doctor can say you have arthritis, yes. He can't just say, "It's because of Sony Playstations." Also, the family history was an honorable mention, I didn't say it was the case for you, lol. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 4, 2013 20:13:44 GMT -5
1. You think I didn't have a test done to find out what was damaging my hands at the age of 12? 2.Really? 3.As far as I can go back in my family history nobody has had arthritis(Except me now...) 4.Oh I don't know...maybe it was that blonde chick who sells guns to fat rednecks. You were part of an experiment? I didn't think so. A doctor can say you have arthritis, yes. He can't just say, "It's because of Sony Playstations." Also, the family history was an honorable mention, I didn't say it was the case for you, lol. Not an experiment. If a doctor can't find any reason as to why you are having a problem they will analyze your usual activities to find what is the thing affecting you the most. It's done incredibly often in allergy cases especially. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 4, 2013 20:20:57 GMT -5
You were part of an experiment? I didn't think so. A doctor can say you have arthritis, yes. He can't just say, "It's because of Sony Playstations." Also, the family history was an honorable mention, I didn't say it was the case for you, lol. Not an experiment. If a doctor can't find any reason as to why you are having a problem they will analyze your usual activities to find what is the thing affecting you the most. It's done incredibly often in allergy cases especially. Still he can't just say directly that he knows it's from the controller. Here are some causes of it: Your genetic makeup. A physically demanding job, especially one with repetitive movements. A previous injury. Some infections or allergic reactions may cause short-term arthritis. When it is caused by an infection it is known as "reactive arthritis". For a number of people certain foods can either bring on arthritis symptoms, or make existing ones worse. Obesity, which places extra strain on joints4 Arthritis may also be caused by autoimmune disease5. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 4, 2013 20:38:49 GMT -5
Also in response to atit's question about why the made an Xbox 360, I don't know.
The first Xbox cost them a total of 4 billion dollars by the time it went off the shelves.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 4, 2013 20:40:00 GMT -5
The first Xbox cost them a total of 4 billion dollars by the time it went off the shelves. There is no way on earth that's true. If any company, even MS, took a 4 BILLION dollar hit on a gaming console, the board of directors would murder the CEO and that company would never touch video games again. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 4, 2013 20:42:59 GMT -5
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Post by wildknight on Dec 4, 2013 20:44:37 GMT -5
... the very article that you linked me to, includes a link to another article directly refuting Forbes claim... :clap: |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 4, 2013 20:46:31 GMT -5
... the very article that you linked me to, includes a link to another article directly refuting Forbes claim... :clap: I linked you to two articles. I might be wrong though, but I did find mutliple sources saying they had lost several billion dollars and were losing 126 dollars for each Xbox sold. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 4, 2013 20:51:05 GMT -5
I linked you to two articles. I might be wrong though, but I did find mutliple sources saying they had lost several billion dollars and were losing 126 dollars for each Xbox sold. The loss per console declined over the life of the console (they got cheaper and cheaper to build, and the R&D costs were no longer factored in after a while), but selling consoles at a loss has ALWAYS been the business model. Sony does the same thing. You sell the console at a loss to control a market share, you gain profit from the rest of the console-producing enterprise (largely, licensing). One of the articles you linked to included in it's body a link to another article stating that Forbes' claim was false, and that the XBox did eventually have profitable quarters. Taken strictly unto itself, Microsoft may have lost 4 billion selling XBox Consoles. I guarantee they did not lose 4 Billion dollars on the XBox brand. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 4, 2013 20:52:40 GMT -5
Microsoft's not that stupid. They're one of the biggest companies in the world, they know better not to be so foolish.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 4, 2013 20:53:44 GMT -5
Microsoft's not that stupid. They're one of the biggest companies in the world, they know better not to be so foolish. I agree with what WK just said (which I didn't see until after). |
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 5, 2013 0:38:34 GMT -5
Knight's on point. For ages console manufacturers have utilized the famous "razor blade" model: That is, get the core item into the hands of consumers, even at a loss, in order to make them repeat customers for the supplements. That is, the consoles are the razors and the games are the blades, and the blades are where the long-term profit is.
On topic, it's a tough call for me but in terms of longevity, strongest memories and overall satisfaction I'd have to say that the NES is my favorite system of all time with the SNES coming in a very close second. I'd say the PS2 and 360 would be fighting it out for next in line.
Worst? My personal least favorite system is the Sega Saturn because I bought it used for one game that easily should have been arcade-perfect (Mortal Kombat II) and wasn't. Beyond that every other game that was available on that system either didn't interest me or was also available on the superior Playstation. I hear that Saturn had a few great exclusives like Panzer Dragoon and some in-depth JRPGs and supposedly the system was also great at those over-the-top wacko Capcom vs Marvel vs Street Fighter vs X-Men games as well but I don't care, I wasn't into any of it.
I only played the Virtual Boy for a few minutes in 1995 but I didn't really want anything to do with it and that's apparently the public consensus as well.
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 5, 2013 0:44:46 GMT -5
Worst gaming console ever;  What the heck is this? Ahhh, that's Joshua. Good times. That thing was boss at tic-tac-toe. |
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