General Comics Discussion

[wildknight]

All-Star Superman sucked. Do not read it. Lex Luthor is turned good by being able to see the world the way Superman does. In other words; Superman isn't a hero, he really had no choice. His powers FORCE him to be a good guy.

In other news, Grant Morrison $#@!ing sucks all day and all night.

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The story of Superman's death 

[wildknight]

Oh. My. Gosh. I've never even thought of it that way. Awesome. Batman is such a punk bitch.

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Apr 9, 2014 15:02:14 GMT -5 wildknight said:

Oh. My. Gosh. I've never even thought of it that way. Awesome. Batman is such a punk bitch.

My favorite is the ending..

[BaneTheDestroyer]

So who plans on reading the "Grayson" comics?

[pinksparklepuff]

I've pretty much been ignoring DC since the reboot.

The name intrigues me alone, given the fact that it's not titled "Nightwing" or "Batman."
Maybe they're going to turn "Grayson" into a full fledged superhero identity so they can squeeze in more members to the Bat Family.

[BaneTheDestroyer]

Dick Grayson is trading his superhero suit for secret-agent cool.

Batman's former sidekick embarks on a new life as an undercover superspy in the comic book Grayson, an action-adventure series premiering July 2 from DC Comics. It's written by Tim Seeley (Revival) and Tom King, a former CIA counterterrorism operations officer.

After a career of being overshadowed by his cape-and-cowled father figure, this is a chance for Grayson "to take off the mask and step out on his own in a world where he's not simply being another hero like the hero he grew up with," King says.

A character who first appeared in 1940, Grayson was the original Robin to Bruce Wayne's Dark Knight. He went solo as Nightwing in the 1980s and also served as Batman for a time, when Wayne was thought dead.

The current Nightwing series ends with Issue 30, due May 28. In the current Forever Evil event series, Dick Grayson has been outed in a villain-infested landscape as Nightwing and captured by the Crime Syndicate of Earth 3. (He's also seemingly murdered, but it doesn't take.)

Batman, though, wants him to transition to a different heroic life for the greater good — it's "a hard sell," Seeley says — and tells him why he needs his former partner to stay dead, not only to the world at large but to Batgirl, Alfred Pennyworth and the rest of the "Bat-family."

"Obviously, he's a part of a legacy," Seeley says. "He's been Robin, he's been Batman, and now he's out in the cold by himself."

Adds King: "He's doing something that's going to cause pain to his friends and family, but he believes in the cause. That tension between having to do something good but having the cost of it being pain to his family, it drives him a little crazy."

Grayson's new employer is the international spy agency Spyral, an organization created by writer Grant Morrison for his Batman, Incorporated series. King sees it as representative of today's intelligence community: They're the people who stop bad guys from doing bad things, yet to do that, they employ questionable tactics such as mind erosion.

"He has to save the world, but he's dealing with an organization that may go beyond his comfort zone," King says.

Seeley likes putting Grayson in this strange position, working for a group "that purports to be on the side of the angels, but clearly, there's some weird stuff going in. Their penchant for manipulation instantly makes them nefarious."

King, who started working for the CIA after 9/11, intends to bring to Grayson the emotional feel for what it's like to work undercover, have bullets shot at you and cope with the the inherent pressure of being an intelligence agent.

"It's bliss to serve a higher cause and save people," he says, but "the hard part of it is it's tough to go home and lie to your family and pretend to be a different person."

For the supporting cast, Seeley is planning to reintroduce some familiar DC characters but also to create a new mythos for Grayson, including his own archenemy.

"He's always been a character who hasn't had a villain associated with him," King says. "We want to give him his Lex Luthor, his Joker."

Also, Grayson is one of the few superheroes "who is considered a sex symbol by ladies," Seeley says. "We're leaning into that."

At the very least, he is getting a wardrobe makeover, courtesy of Grayson artist Mikel Janin: Gone is Grayson's mask, and his new outfit reflects the blue-and-black color scheme of his Nightwing togs and features a "G" on his chest, reminiscent of the old "R" from his Robin days.

In terms of tone, Seeley describes Grayson as a "world-hopping" action comic, and King wants every issue to feel like a TV episode of Mad Men or Breaking Bad in that it causes a conversation.

"It's DC's The Americans," King says. "This is something where, at the end of it, you have to go and talk about it."

[Rush]

I'm intrigued but this has more chance of sucking than it does being good. I'll wait till a couple issues are out and see how they are

[pinksparklepuff]

I could only read so much of that before throwing my hands in the air and spitting in DC's general direction.

Fun fact: Grayson has never been Batman. You disagree with that statement? Ah ha, reboot! I win!

[wildknight]

... that Grayson comic is going to suck so hard

Also, PSP, they did mention in Nu52 that Dick Grayson was Batman for a period.

[pinksparklepuff]

Noodle cakes.


Wait, they're ditching his mask, but putting a "G" on his spandex? What sense does that make?!

[SoonDragon67]

I just found out today that my library has a comic book section too. I chose to pick up Captain America Prisoner of War.

[Straight Edge Steve]

I feel like if I went to my local library and got a comic book, all of the meth-smokers and Trevor Phillips' would jump out of the bushes and call me a queer as they raped my nerd-ginity.

[Rush]

I just picked up the daredevil frank miller omnibus and captain america winter soilder ultimate collection

[BaneTheDestroyer]

Apr 15, 2014 21:38:53 GMT -5 Straight Edge Steve said:

I feel like if I went to my local library and got a comic book, all of the meth-smokers and Trevor Phillips' would jump out of the bushes and call me a queer as they raped my nerd-ginity.

No they won't. Comic Book Guy would come to your rescue.

Have you ever heard of him? No. Know why? Because nobody has ever seen him. He doesn't leave any tracks of his existence. He's just that good. I saw him though. I saw him.

[Straight Edge Steve]

Apr 15, 2014 21:48:02 GMT -5 BaneTheDestroyer said:

Apr 15, 2014 21:38:53 GMT -5 Straight Edge Steve said:

I feel like if I went to my local library and got a comic book, all of the meth-smokers and Trevor Phillips' would jump out of the bushes and call me a queer as they raped my nerd-ginity.

No they won't. Comic Book Guy would come to your rescue.

Have you ever heard of him? No. Know why? Because nobody has ever seen him. He doesn't leave any tracks of his existence. He's just that good. I saw him though. I saw him.

Not to mention, the last time I was in a comic book store, I got kicked out for serenading a cardboard cut-out of Princess Leia.

[WSS?]

Apr 15, 2014 21:48:02 GMT -5 BaneTheDestroyer said:

Apr 15, 2014 21:38:53 GMT -5 Straight Edge Steve said:

I feel like if I went to my local library and got a comic book, all of the meth-smokers and Trevor Phillips' would jump out of the bushes and call me a queer as they raped my nerd-ginity.

No they won't. Comic Book Guy would come to your rescue.

Apr 15, 2014 21:48:47 GMT -5 Straight Edge Steve said:

Apr 15, 2014 21:48:02 GMT -5 BaneTheDestroyer said:

No they won't. Comic Book Guy would come to your rescue.

Have you ever heard of him? No. Know why? Because nobody has ever seen him. He doesn't leave any tracks of his existence. He's just that good. I saw him though. I saw him.

Not to mention, the last time I was in a comic book store, I got kicked out for serenading a cardboard cut-out of Princess Leia.

I would say "You worry me sometimes," but you worry me all the time.

[Straight Edge Steve]

Apr 15, 2014 21:53:16 GMT -5 WSS? said:

Apr 15, 2014 21:48:02 GMT -5 BaneTheDestroyer said:

No they won't. Comic Book Guy would come to your rescue.

Apr 15, 2014 21:48:47 GMT -5 Straight Edge Steve said:

Not to mention, the last time I was in a comic book store, I got kicked out for serenading a cardboard cut-out of Princess Leia.

I would say "You worry me sometimes," but you worry me all the time.

You are the 67th different person to say that.

[BaneTheDestroyer]

Apr 15, 2014 21:56:36 GMT -5 Straight Edge Steve said:

Apr 15, 2014 21:53:16 GMT -5 WSS? said:

I would say "You worry me sometimes," but you worry me all the time.

You are the 67th different person to say that.

If it helps any, I didn't mean that you worried me when I said it. I just meant that I notice it. I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing that you look up to WK, I just don't think you should be obligated to agree with everything he says.

This may sound like a knock to you, but I don't mean it to.

You're not Wildknight. You're not your parents. You're not anybody else. You're you. Nobody can decide what you think and how you should act except for you and I know that you're smart and intelligent enough to do it, you just need to learn to have more faith in yourself. I'm not religious, and I'm not going to claim to be, but I know so many people that spend all of their life looking up to whoever/whatever they believe in to help themselves. I don't know how much you believe or are active in your religious community, but maybe some more time would help you out.

[pinksparklepuff]

To dispute Bane's theory here, if you don't emulate me in everything you do you're A) wrong. B) not the king of the world. And D) probably don't need psychiatric help.

I don't serenade anyone who won't join in on the musical.