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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 7, 2013 15:26:25 GMT -5
I always love asking this question to people to see them fight or argue because they're stupid:
Who owns Spawn? (Yes, I know the answer).
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 7, 2013 15:26:59 GMT -5
I always love asking this question to people to see them fight or argue because they're stupid: Who owns Spawn? (Yes, I know the answer). Image Comics. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 7, 2013 15:30:32 GMT -5
I always love asking this question to people to see them fight or argue because they're stupid: Who owns Spawn? (Yes, I know the answer). Image Comics. I was waiting for somebody stupid to answer the question, lol. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 7, 2013 15:31:05 GMT -5
I was waiting for somebody stupid to answer the question, lol. Well then you're lucky I came along, huh? |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 7, 2013 16:23:00 GMT -5
I always love asking this question to people to see them fight or argue because they're stupid: Who owns Spawn? (Yes, I know the answer). Image Comics. Incorrect. The answer is Todd McFarlane. Image's original artists & writers retained ownership of their individual creations, as part of their original beef with Marvel was over licensing and merchandising. Image got a chunk of any profits, but the ownership went to the creators. When Image re-organized, several of it's writers sold (entirely or in part) their ownership to Image, but McFarlane retained his. If you're inclined to debate me on this, check out the long-running lawsuit over ownership of Medieval Spawn and some other characters created by Neil Gaiman. Image wasn't even named in the suit... Todd McFarlane, and that was because in theory, he owned all of the characters created during his editorial tenure on the book. In one of life's great ironies, McFarlane stormed out of Marvel because they wouldn't let him do what he wanted with villains he created for Spider-Man... and then turned around and did exactly the same thing to Gaiman. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 7, 2013 16:31:59 GMT -5
Incorrect. The answer is Todd McFarlane. Image's original artists & writers retained ownership of their individual creations, as part of their original beef with Marvel was over licensing and merchandising. Image got a chunk of any profits, but the ownership went to the creators. When Image re-organized, several of it's writers sold (entirely or in part) their ownership to Image, but McFarlane retained his. If you're inclined to debate me on this, check out the long-running lawsuit over ownership of Medieval Spawn and some other characters created by Neil Gaiman. Image wasn't even named in the suit... Todd McFarlane, and that was because in theory, he owned all of the characters created during his editorial tenure on the book. In one of life's great ironies, McFarlane stormed out of Marvel because they wouldn't let him do what he wanted with villains he created for Spider-Man... and then turned around and did exactly the same thing to Gaiman. Todd sounds like a major D-bag. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 7, 2013 16:40:17 GMT -5
He is 8)
In some sense I can understand his desire to own his creations and he sounds very reasonable when he talks about his opinion that writers and artists should share in the success of their comic. He's not lying when he says that sales were down on Spectacular Spider-Man until he took over, and then the character became very popular again, so maybe he should have been paid based on profits rather than a flat rate or something...
But the flip side of that coin is that when sales are down, how would he have felt about being paid less? 8)
Besides, it's simply obvious that a company must keep ownership of characters related to their licenses. It would make no sense for Venom to suddenly appear in DC comics fighting Batman and then in Arhcie comics a year later because the guy who created him changed jobs.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 7, 2013 19:46:23 GMT -5
... Venom would bite Bane's head off.
.. making that the best day in the history of forever.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 7, 2013 19:47:34 GMT -5
... Venom would bite Bane's head off. .. making that the best day in the history of forever. Right up until the moment where Venom rips Batman and Nightwing in half and drinks every ounce of blood right out of their petty corpses. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 7, 2013 20:51:08 GMT -5
That picture says it's going to give me viruses.......
Does it say that for anybody else? (also, my computer won't load it for that reason, so I can't even see what it is, lol).
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Post by wildknight on Dec 7, 2013 21:12:06 GMT -5
... Venom would bite Bane's head off. .. making that the best day in the history of forever. Right up until the moment where Venom rips Batman and Nightwing in half and drinks every ounce of blood right out of their petty corpses. Nah. Batman (and by extension, his most skilled and similar student) always wins, in complete defiance of the logic that would dictate otherwise. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 7, 2013 21:14:10 GMT -5
Right up until the moment where Venom rips Batman and Nightwing in half and drinks every ounce of blood right out of their petty corpses. Nah. Batman (and by extension, his most skilled and similar student) always wins, in complete defiance of the logic that would dictate otherwise. Actually the correct rule is, Batman never loses to the same person twice, nor does he lose in the same way twice. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 7, 2013 22:06:41 GMT -5
Nah. Batman (and by extension, his most skilled and similar student) always wins, in complete defiance of the logic that would dictate otherwise. Actually the correct rule is, Batman never loses to the same person twice, nor does he lose in the same way twice. "Correct" according to him. Because the meme is actually "Batman wins" or "Batman always wins." I would argue that while he's certainly lost individual fights, he's never been properly "defeated." Even being killed doesn't stop him from getting the KO in the third round |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 7, 2013 22:09:42 GMT -5
Actually the correct rule is, Batman never loses to the same person twice, nor does he lose in the same way twice. "Correct" according to him. Because the meme is actually "Batman wins" or "Batman always wins." I would argue that while he's certainly lost individual fights, he's never been properly "defeated." Even being killed doesn't stop him from getting the KO in the third round Can't the same thing be said of any major DC character? |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 7, 2013 22:22:59 GMT -5
Can't the same thing be said of any major DC character? Depends on whether you're talking about within the structure of a traditional three act story (as I am with Batman), or within their careers. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 7, 2013 22:23:32 GMT -5
Can't the same thing be said of any major DC character? Depends on whether you're talking about within the structure of a traditional three act story (as I am with Batman), or within their careers. The former. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 7, 2013 22:27:13 GMT -5
Well then no, not really. Heroes get defeated in the third act with surprising frequency, considering that they're theoretically the reason for the existence of the story in the first place 8)
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 9, 2013 13:11:30 GMT -5
Haven't watched the trailer (nor even seen the first film) but I just saw an article about it on a movie website. Chris Cooper as the Goblin? Paul Giamatti as Rhino? I might just have to check this out.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 9, 2013 13:12:40 GMT -5
Haven't watched the trailer (nor even seen the first film) but I just saw an article about it on a movie website. Chris Cooper as the Goblin? Paul Giamatti as Rhino? I might just have to check this out. You'll regret it if you do. 8) |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 9, 2013 13:13:23 GMT -5
Haven't watched the trailer (nor even seen the first film) but I just saw an article about it on a movie website. Chris Cooper as the Goblin? Paul Giamatti as Rhino? I might just have to check this out. You'll regret it if you do. 8) Pretty sure he already knows. |
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