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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 10, 2013 22:21:30 GMT -5
Personally, I think this is an absolutely awful age to be alive. I'm seriously scared by what science continues to pull out all the time. I'm really scared of what the world will come to because of stuff like this. I think that the world will be just fine. I think that things will expand and we shall one day colonize and explore. I think that is where we are going. However to get there, I believe there will be quite a few huge changes that will need to take place. Which I am seeing coming about. From tech like using the solar glider, to something as simple as the spray that allows material to be water proof. Not all of them are horrible ideas.  There are quite a few technologies I'm worried about that are being developed... Scientists have discovered the ability to implant memories into mice and are working on the same tech for humans... www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/25/neuroscientists-discover-how-to-implant-false-memories-in-the-brain/is an especially creepy one... |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 10, 2013 22:24:20 GMT -5
I guess I'm somewhere in the middle. I'm not a luddite like Soon, but I think it's a little silly to believe that we're approaching some kind of technology-driven golden age. Humanity is going to keep right on feeding off of itself, no matter what technologies we have.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 10, 2013 22:25:33 GMT -5
When it comes to unleashing a given technology on the world, I think there's a pretty simple analogy one can use. A gun in and of itself is inert. It has great potential to do harm, but also great potential to protect. Would you then leave one laying in a playground? Of course not. The fact that it might cause grievous harm is too great. Technology should always be considered with it's potential for harm weighed against its potential for good. Governments cannot be trusted to make these decisions for us; if they withhold a given bit of technology on their judgment that it might be too harmful to the general public, the result is that only they have something that has been judged (by their own standards no less) to be harmful to the general public. Unless one implicitly trusts that neither the Government nor any rogue agent of the Government will never unleash said technology on defenseless citizens, one would have to agree that the Government simply cannot be allowed to make these judgment calls... which leaves only the people who create these things. The only way to stop them from potentially causing harm... is for them to never be in anyone's hands. Since I'm sure someone is going to say that it's not good for anyone to slow the progression of science based on their own judgment, I'm going to go ahead and preemptively point out that that is precisely what an ethical person should do. I suddenly got a flashback to one of Ray Bradbury's short stories... I can't seem to find the title but the short story was set in China and featured a farmer who discovered how to fly with technology. The Emperor then has the farmer killed and all knowledge of the machine destroyed. This is of course a very short description... |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 10, 2013 22:26:25 GMT -5
I guess I'm somewhere in the middle. I'm not a luddite like Soon I'm just kind of fearful of what Science is coming to. Our society eerily resembles 1984... |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 10, 2013 22:29:18 GMT -5
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Post by ethanm1834 on Dec 10, 2013 22:30:09 GMT -5
I agree, the government shouldn't be in charge of tech. At the same time, people are stupid. I say this as a person that brings tech everyday due to my job. I make apps that find your location and uploads that to a server for the purpose of giving you directions to free ATMs. Is it a good thing? Sure..is it necessary? Not really, but people purchase it anyway.
I think for the fundamental change to happen and yes crazy idea but I think it would help tremendously. Tech like a replicator, like a teleportation. Things like space travel and settling on different worlds.
I am Idealistic and dream of a future of peace and happiness, but to me its lack of advancement and the stupidity of people that will bring that to be a reality.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 10, 2013 22:30:50 GMT -5
Ah yes, Ray Bradbury. He wrote a ton of great stuff.
I'd be more worried about the "Big Brother" stuff if half of the world population weren't voluntarily putting everything they do and think on the internet for the whole world to see already 8)
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Post by wildknight on Dec 10, 2013 22:34:01 GMT -5
I think for the fundamental change to happen and yes crazy idea but I think it would help tremendously. Tech like a replicator, like a teleportation. Things like space travel and settling on different worlds. I don't know where you could find it anymore, but an economist wrote a great piece explaining how the invention of anything like Star Trek's replicator would destroy the world economy and result in untold suffering, not universal wealth and certainly not universal peace. ... I have no idea how you could reasonably believe that something like that is ever going to be achieved by humankind. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 10, 2013 22:35:54 GMT -5
I think for the fundamental change to happen and yes crazy idea but I think it would help tremendously. Tech like a replicator, like a teleportation. Things like space travel and settling on different worlds. I don't know where you could find it anymore, but an economist wrote a great piece explaining how the invention of anything like Star Trek's replicator would destroy the world economy and result in untold suffering, not universal wealth and certainly not universal peace. ... I have no idea how you could reasonably believe that something like that is ever going to be achieved by humankind. I always laugh at people when they say that they wish for a peaceful future. It's just not possible unless the world were quite literally brainwashed and turned into living zombies. |
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Post by ethanm1834 on Dec 10, 2013 22:40:02 GMT -5
I think for the fundamental change to happen and yes crazy idea but I think it would help tremendously. Tech like a replicator, like a teleportation. Things like space travel and settling on different worlds. I don't know where you could find it anymore, but an economist wrote a great piece explaining how the invention of anything like Star Trek's replicator would destroy the world economy and result in untold suffering, not universal wealth and certainly not universal peace. ... I have no idea how you could reasonably believe that something like that is ever going to be achieved by humankind. I've read how those inventions could come to pass, but again you'd need expansion into space exploration. If you do this just here than yes, I agree it would fall into chaos, as nothing would be worth anything in reality. There's nothing wrong with dreaming of a peaceful world. All I can do is help my fellow man at the moment which I do happily. One day I hope to be able to retire and help the homeless full time. One step at a time though. |
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Post by ethanm1834 on Dec 10, 2013 22:57:50 GMT -5
Here's some good tech though, thats beneficial. |
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Post by WSS? on Dec 11, 2013 0:10:57 GMT -5
...I don't care, again.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 11, 2013 2:44:56 GMT -5
Part of the reason that "replicators" (by any name) wouldn't be largely beneficial is because it's not true that nothing would be worth anything. No matter how perfectly one could copy it, the original Mona Lisa would always be worth something. "Wealth" would still exist... and with unrestricted access to most assets, violence to acquire what little wealth continued to exist would be easier and more lethal.
It would also have an absolutely chilling effect on future creative endeavor. The entire concept of the "starving artist" as it has been known throughout history would cease to exist, meaning that one of the primary motivations for creation would also cease to exist.
Blowback is an important concept.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Feb 12, 2014 17:46:05 GMT -5
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Post by iodill8 on Feb 12, 2014 19:07:23 GMT -5
I don't know where you could find it anymore, but an economist wrote a great piece explaining how the invention of anything like Star Trek's replicator would destroy the world economy and result in untold suffering, not universal wealth and certainly not universal peace. ... I have no idea how you could reasonably believe that something like that is ever going to be achieved by humankind. I always laugh at people when they say that they wish for a peaceful future. It's just not possible unless the world were quite literally brainwashed and turned into living zombies. Eye of the Moon Plan? You sound like Madara Uchiha, lmaoo |
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Post by skylerb97 on Feb 12, 2014 19:42:27 GMT -5
I always laugh at people when they say that they wish for a peaceful future. It's just not possible unless the world were quite literally brainwashed and turned into living zombies. Eye of the Moon Plan? You sound like Madara Uchiha, lmaoo soon hates Anime. He'll either understand the reference and tell you he despises the source material, not know the reference ask what it is and regret asking or know the reference and not care. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Feb 12, 2014 19:48:16 GMT -5
Eye of the Moon Plan? You sound like Madara Uchiha, lmaoo soon hates Anime. He'll either understand the reference and tell you he despises the source material, not know the reference ask what it is and regret asking or know the reference and not care. None of the above. I do not know the reference, nor do I care enough about anime to ask as to what he was referring to. Also I knew it was anime because of the name of the character. |
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Post by iodill8 on Feb 12, 2014 19:54:32 GMT -5
My point is, you sounded just like him.
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 12, 2014 19:57:58 GMT -5
I only just saw this thread.
I expect the mind-reading technology to be owned by either the government or google (same thing, really) in a very short time.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Feb 12, 2014 19:59:45 GMT -5
I only just saw this thread. I expect the mind-reading technology to be owned by either the government or google (same thing, really) in a very short time. Don't worry, it hasn't been posted on since December 10th until today when I posted another article I found on some other scary tech. |
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