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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 14, 2013 20:59:27 GMT -5
J knows me somewhat though, he was around when I made my favorite movie list and things like that. Not only can he probably get something of a sense of my taste, I'm sure he's just expressing harmless enthusiasm. While I specifically try to avoid definitive comments when I'm recommending something (mainly because it makes me feel like a jerk when the person hates what I told them to watch), I'm not bothered by others expressing themselves with that level of certainty. Like I said its a near perfect show. It's hard not to enjoy the show, there was a reason why so many people loved that show. Yeah the more I look into it the more difficult it is to find evidence of anyone who disliked it. It's rare for any show to receive that kind of acclaim, the only other one I can think of was The Sopranos. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 14, 2013 22:07:40 GMT -5
If I cared, I could argue that Blair Witch was objectively "good." It followed a number of established norms for non-slasher style horror (or what I like to call, "an actual horror film as opposed to an action film with a supernatural antagonist, you $#@!ing idiot"), and delivered some of them as well if not better than some horror "classics."
Unfortunately, 1) as a whole it failed so the things that were done well matter a lot less, and 2) I couldn't care less to defend a movie that I never had any enthusiasm for in the first place.
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 15, 2013 8:05:53 GMT -5
What did it deliver upon?
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 15, 2013 12:25:21 GMT -5
I always was annoyed by Godzilla being given the genre of horror for whatever reason. It's not frightening at all, and is more so like an action flick. Perhaps it was just a thing of its time, and had I watched it in 1954 I would have been scared out of my wits.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 15, 2013 12:53:40 GMT -5
I really don't know anyone who considers Godzilla to be horror.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 15, 2013 13:51:41 GMT -5
I really don't know anyone who considers Godzilla to be horror. It's officially classified as a horror, drama, sci-fi movie according to IMDb, and I have seen numerous top horror movie lists where Godzilla is listed. www.imdb.com/title/tt0047034/ |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 15, 2013 16:23:14 GMT -5
I really don't know anyone who considers Godzilla to be horror. It's officially classified as a horror, drama, sci-fi movie according to IMDb, and I have seen numerous top horror movie lists where Godzilla is listed. www.imdb.com/title/tt0047034/Right. I still don't know a single individual who, if asked, would call Godzilla a horror film. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 15, 2013 16:27:22 GMT -5
It's officially classified as a horror, drama, sci-fi movie according to IMDb, and I have seen numerous top horror movie lists where Godzilla is listed. www.imdb.com/title/tt0047034/Right. I still don't know a single individual who, if asked, would call Godzilla a horror film. That's exactly my point. |
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Post by pinksparklepuff on Dec 15, 2013 17:45:21 GMT -5
...Godzilla is and always will be a "popcorn flick."
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 16, 2013 9:31:03 GMT -5
Godzilla looks like it could be good, I'm curious to see the trailer. And if not for Christmas-related stuff I'd have stopped to watch some Breaking Bad by now.
The show was on AMC, how are they about censorship? I've read about a lot of violent deaths on the show.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 16, 2013 9:42:26 GMT -5
AMC is about halfway between HBO's "let's show as many dicks as we can squeeze into an hour" mentality and typical network stuff.
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Post by muta75 on Dec 16, 2013 10:17:06 GMT -5
Breaking Bad is the best completed series since The Wire. Game Of Thrones is great, but there is still an opportunity for them to fuck it up.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 16, 2013 10:21:05 GMT -5
$#@! The Wire. If I'm going to have somebodies political ideation rammed up my ass, I prefer to be bought dinner first. If I wanted to watch a very wealthy white dude purge his white guilt, I'd watch one of Dick Wolf's 10,000 Law & Order shows.
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Post by muta75 on Dec 16, 2013 10:23:50 GMT -5
$#@! The Wire. If I'm going to have somebodies political ideation rammed up my ass, I prefer to be bought dinner first. If I wanted to watch a very wealthy white dude purge his white guilt, I'd watch one of d*** Wolf's 10,000 Law & Order shows. The Wire was an amazing series. you didn't appreciate the writing, acting or directing because of some political agenda, then i guess that's your loss. |
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 16, 2013 10:27:25 GMT -5
AMC is about halfway between HBO's "let's show as many d***s as we can squeeze into an hour" mentality and typical network stuff. Perfect! |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 16, 2013 10:31:40 GMT -5
The Wire was an amazing series. you didn't appreciate the writing, acting or directing because of some political agenda, then i guess that's your loss. a meditation on the death of work and the betrayal of the American working class ... it is a deliberate argument that unencumbered capitalism is not a substitute for social policy; that on its own, without a social compact, raw capitalism is destined to serve the few at the expense of the many - David Simon, describing the 2nd season of The Wire The show WAS a political commentary, and nothing about it wasn't politically motivated. I would argue that if you willingly let someone's political agenda enter your headspace without recognizing it for what it is, that's YOUR loss, and worse still, the world's loss since we all have to share the same living space. |
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Post by muta75 on Dec 16, 2013 10:36:25 GMT -5
The Wire was an amazing series. you didn't appreciate the writing, acting or directing because of some political agenda, then i guess that's your loss. a meditation on the death of work and the betrayal of the American working class ... it is a deliberate argument that unencumbered capitalism is not a substitute for social policy; that on its own, without a social compact, raw capitalism is destined to serve the few at the expense of the many - David Simon, describing the 2nd season of The Wire The show WAS a political commentary, and nothing about it wasn't politically motivated. I would argue that if you willingly let someone's political agenda enter your headspace without recognizing it for what it is, that's YOUR loss, and worse still, the world's loss since we all have to share the same living space. or i just watched the show for what it was and not hoping for something to make me miserable. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 16, 2013 10:43:08 GMT -5
or i just watched the show for what it was and not hoping for something to make me miserable. I would think this would go without saying, particularly in talking to an adult... but your brain is like your body. What you put into it affects it's health and shape. It's actually worse to watch something like that without applying critical thinking, not better, because it allows ideation that you're not even aware of to influence your subconscious mind, and once something has unfettered access to your subconscious, it can affect who you are in a very real sense. |
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Post by muta75 on Dec 16, 2013 10:53:57 GMT -5
or i just watched the show for what it was and not hoping for something to make me miserable. I would think this would go without saying, particularly in talking to an adult... but your brain is like your body. What you put into it affects it's health and shape. It's actually worse to watch something like that without applying critical thinking, not better, because it allows ideation that you're not even aware of to influence your subconscious mind, and once something has unfettered access to your subconscious, it can affect who you are in a very real sense. my subconscious mind is fine. i can watch a movie depicting homophobia, will that subconsciously make me a homophobe? one of my favorite movie ever is American History X will watching that make me a neo-nazi...no. i can separate my beliefs from what it is i'm watching and either enjoy or loathe it for the quality of work or lack thereof. i get what you're saying, but it's also not how i approach the things that are there to entertain me. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 16, 2013 10:58:33 GMT -5
my subconscious mind is fine. i can watch a movie depicting homophobia, will that subconsciously make me a homophobe? one of my favorite movie ever is American History X will watching that make me a neo-nazi...no. i can separate my beliefs from what it is i'm watching and either enjoy or loathe it for the quality of work or lack thereof. i get what you're saying, but it's also not how i approach the things that are there to entertain me. First of all, the message of American History X is that hate is bad. Nothing about that movie would affect your subconscious to think "hey, being a Neo-Nazi is great shakes!" ... unless you're a fan of hypocrisy, disloyalty, and anal rape. :facepalm: Second of all, it's exactly when you assume that you're in control... that you're not. The modern secular humanist mentality that you and only you control your thoughts and emotions is bunk in every possible way. Neuroscience craps all over that idea with so much evidence that it could challenge Bono's record as the world's largest piece of crap. Your subconscious mind is actually very susceptible to influence, more so when you're in a relaxed state (such as "just being entertained." The only defense you have (aside from abstinence) is to approach media critically. |
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