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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 22, 2013 22:21:43 GMT -5
With Christmas right around the corner I decided to make a thread where we can post people doing good deeds and small acts of kindness...   |
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Post by ethanm1834 on Dec 22, 2013 22:24:00 GMT -5
Those are awesome stories. A little surprising coming form you soon, just because you seem generally angry most of the time.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 22, 2013 22:26:03 GMT -5
Those are awesome stories. A little surprising coming form you soon, just because you seem generally angry most of the time. That's a character I have online. Believe it or not I'm actually pretty nice in real life. I have really bad anger issues and I use the Internet to vent out all my frustrations, because if I don't then I usually end up exploding on people. |
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Dec 22, 2013 22:35:04 GMT -5
Yea, I was going to say what Ethan said. Little surprising coming from Soon this thread.
I can relate though Soon, I've had my own temper problems in the past.
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Post by WSS? on Dec 22, 2013 22:50:58 GMT -5
Thank you. Really, thank you. I've had enough of people being so negative.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 22, 2013 22:52:41 GMT -5
Never ceases to amaze me. War, genocide, starvation... every kind of evil imaginable, and you guys want to break your arms patting humanity on the back because somebody stopped a bully. $#@!ing $#@! %#@!
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 22, 2013 22:55:42 GMT -5
Never ceases to amaze me. War, genocide, starvation... every kind of evil imaginable, and you guys want to break your arms patting humanity on the back because somebody stopped a bully. $#@!ing $#@! %#@! You only watched the first part of the first video then? That video was about how doing a small kindness can do a world of good. Also this thread isn't about saying humanity is really good, but that there is still some good in humanity, and that this is a place where one can post such actions that display that. |
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Post by WSS? on Dec 22, 2013 22:56:41 GMT -5
WELL, that didn't last long.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 22, 2013 23:27:29 GMT -5
You only watched the first part of the first video then? That video was about how doing a small kindness can do a world of good. ... which is nonsense 8) |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 24, 2013 12:58:49 GMT -5
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Dec 24, 2013 13:02:34 GMT -5
This thread is going to go down hill like a fat man on roller skates. I don't use metaphors often, but when I do, they are terrible.
Anyhow, something positive is that Barack Obama will only be president for another 2 years. Now that's a gift to humanity.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2013 14:31:04 GMT -5
:thumbsup: Anyways, I'm with Knight. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 24, 2013 14:34:23 GMT -5
:thumbsup: Anyways, I'm with Knight. So because the world sucks we should only look at the negatives, and never look at the positives in humanity? We should only look at the constant death and sorrow that plagues us day in and day out, rather than looking at people who risk their lives to save others, people who stop for a few moments to help others out when they are not obliged to do so. Why can we not look at the good people can do rather than just the evil? And people wonder why suicide is on the rise in society today... |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 24, 2013 17:29:54 GMT -5
:thumbsup: Anyways, I'm with Knight. So because the world sucks we should only look at the negatives, and never look at the positives in humanity? We should only look at the constant death and sorrow that plagues us day in and day out, rather than looking at people who risk their lives to save others, people who stop for a few moments to help others out when they are not obliged to do so. Why can we not look at the good people can do rather than just the evil? And people wonder why suicide is on the rise in society today... Contrary-wise, I would argue that suicide is on the rise because we constantly lie to young people by telling them that the world isn't an evil place. We hold up the few and far between examples of humane behavior and kindness we can find amongst the oceans of vile behavior as "evidence" that the world isn't all that bad. We say that this is evidence that humanity is ultimately good, and then when the inevitable questions regarding all of humanities evil come, we begin to take the next logical step and call evil itself good, or claim that evil and good are all subjective to individual experience. People are told that the world isn't all that bad, look around the world and see that the opposite is true, and find different ways to cope; hence rising addiction, mental illness, and suicide. The point is not that we should never focus on the positive, but that we should never move into "Big Fib" politics and suggest that small kindnesses somehow multiply to make the world itself a better place. You shouldn't help the person who is hurting because of some non-existent Heinlein-esque social economy situation... you should help the person who is hurting because they are a person, and they are hurting. When you help one person, you don't make the world a better place, and you certainly don't save the world... you help one person. If that's not reward enough for your ego, then I've got no time for you. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 24, 2013 17:36:37 GMT -5
So because the world sucks we should only look at the negatives, and never look at the positives in humanity? We should only look at the constant death and sorrow that plagues us day in and day out, rather than looking at people who risk their lives to save others, people who stop for a few moments to help others out when they are not obliged to do so. Why can we not look at the good people can do rather than just the evil? And people wonder why suicide is on the rise in society today... Contrary-wise, I would argue that suicide is on the rise because we constantly lie to young people by telling them that the world isn't an evil place. We hold up the few and far between examples of humane behavior and kindness we can find amongst the oceans of vile behavior as "evidence" that the world isn't all that bad. We say that this is evidence that humanity is ultimately good, and then when the inevitable questions regarding all of humanities evil come, we begin to take the next logical step and call evil itself good, or claim that evil and good are all subjective to individual experience. People are told that the world isn't all that bad, look around the world and see that the opposite is true, and find different ways to cope; hence rising addiction, mental illness, and suicide. I find this paragraph ridiculous. You turn on the news and almost all of the stories are about murder, economic troubles, death, bigots, racists, war, crime etc.... Maybe once in a while you'll hear a story about someone who saved another's life. It's ridiculous to claim that our society treats humanity as an overall good being. Sure people are praised for doing good, but that's because in our day and age such actions are so rare, because of all the evil in our world. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 24, 2013 17:43:38 GMT -5
I find this paragraph ridiculous. ... of course you do. Given your usual "understanding" of human psychology, I'm hardly shocked. Really? You think our culture doesn't believe explicitly that humanity is ultimately good, in spite of all of those things you mentioned? You're not paying attention. Secular Humanism is the predominating "religion" the world over today, and the core tenant of Secular Humanism is that human culture/society is "evolving" toward perfection. Were that not the case, you wouldn't see so many people arguing that newer ideas are automatically superior to older ones. The only "logic" by which that kind of thinking can stand is the failed logic that assumes humanity is inherently improving as time goes on. Praising people for doing good is not the problem. The focus and content of that praise is the problem. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 24, 2013 17:58:40 GMT -5
I find this paragraph ridiculous. ... of course you do. Given your usual "understanding" of human psychology, I'm hardly shocked. Really? You think our culture doesn't believe explicitly that humanity is ultimately good, in spite of all of those things you mentioned? You're not paying attention. Secular Humanism is the predominating "religion" the world over today, and the core tenant of Secular Humanism is that human culture/society is "evolving" toward perfection. Were that not the case, you wouldn't see so many people arguing that newer ideas are automatically superior to older ones. The only "logic" by which that kind of thinking can stand is the failed logic that assumes humanity is inherently improving as time goes on. Praising people for doing good is not the problem. The focus and content of that praise is the problem. So you claim that Secular Humanism is the predominating 'religion?' Let's see the flaw in that argument... One third of the world is Christian 23 percent of the world are Muslims 15 percent are Hindu This is around 71% of the world so far(And adding in Buddhists(7 percent) and other traditional religions(6 percent) brings the total to 84%) Of these religions a small population in these religions might believe in Secular Humanism as well, so let's subtract around 5%, which brings us down to 79% who aren't secular humanists(And that's discounting those that don't have a religion who don't believe in secular humanism) That means there are around 21% secular humanists(Still discounting the above), that's still around 12% less than Christianity, and 2% less than Islam. In other words, it most definitely is NOT the predominating religion in the world. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 24, 2013 19:47:36 GMT -5
So you claim that Secular Humanism is the predominating 'religion?' Let's see the flaw in that argument... One third of the world is Christian 23 percent of the world are Muslims 15 percent are Hindu This is around 71% of the world so far(And adding in Buddhists(7 percent) and other traditional religions(6 percent) brings the total to 84%) Of these religions a small population in these religions might believe in Secular Humanism as well, so let's subtract around 5%, which brings us down to 79% who aren't secular humanists(And that's discounting those that don't have a religion who don't believe in secular humanism) That means there are around 21% secular humanists(Still discounting the above), that's still around 12% less than Christianity, and 2% less than Islam. In other words, it most definitely is NOT the predominating religion in the world. *sigh* You never get tired of failing, do you? Look around the world. A "religion" is by definition a set of beliefs. It doesn't matter what percentage of the population calls themselves something. What they actually believe and how they act based on those beliefs is what matters. Secular Humanism is, far and away, the predominant religion in the world today. For you to claim otherwise is preposterous. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 24, 2013 19:52:54 GMT -5
So you claim that Secular Humanism is the predominating 'religion?' Let's see the flaw in that argument... One third of the world is Christian 23 percent of the world are Muslims 15 percent are Hindu This is around 71% of the world so far(And adding in Buddhists(7 percent) and other traditional religions(6 percent) brings the total to 84%) Of these religions a small population in these religions might believe in Secular Humanism as well, so let's subtract around 5%, which brings us down to 79% who aren't secular humanists(And that's discounting those that don't have a religion who don't believe in secular humanism) That means there are around 21% secular humanists(Still discounting the above), that's still around 12% less than Christianity, and 2% less than Islam. In other words, it most definitely is NOT the predominating religion in the world. *sigh* You never get tired of failing, do you? Look around the world. A "religion" is by definition a set of beliefs. It doesn't matter what percentage of the population calls themselves something. What they actually believe and how they act based on those beliefs is what matters. Secular Humanism is, far and away, the predominant religion in the world today. For you to claim otherwise is preposterous. So where are your statistical facts in this regard Knight? |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 24, 2013 19:55:49 GMT -5
So where are your statistical facts in this regard Knight? *facepalm* Look at the elected governments and popular policies of the nations of Planet Earth. Most people who are Secular Humanists don't call themselves Secular Humanists, so of course there's no "statistical evidence." You're far too smart to try to beat me with a "whatever people call themselves, they are" argument soon. You know better than that. The evidence of observation stands fairly obvious. |
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