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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Dec 23, 2013 15:11:24 GMT -5
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Post by TomJohns on Dec 23, 2013 15:37:19 GMT -5
He saw the same thing AJ, Hogan & everyone else is seeing a sinking ship...
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 23, 2013 15:38:46 GMT -5
Next on the list of promotions to fall: RoH!
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Post by ethanm1834 on Dec 23, 2013 15:45:26 GMT -5
Well Like AJ Styles, I'll believe it after awhile. Right now I don't as again with AJ Styles the man has signed again. However yes, lets miss the guy that had his MMA angles and constant push of being on the main event for a guy thats a midcarder. No I don't think I'll miss him feuding with angle over his wife.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 23, 2013 15:52:24 GMT -5
Dixie Carter and Jeff Jarrett have never seen eye to eye, and she's benched him so many times it's not even funny. The word is that Dixie sees Angle as the future of the company, and Angle and Jeff still have a lot of hard feelings, so chances that Jeff was going to get any decent matches any time soon were pretty slim, at best. It makes sense for him to throw in the towel and go to work for someone else. WWE doesn't want him, they already know what a piece of crap he is, but RoH is always desperate for anything resembling name talent.
I have to address the notion that Hogan abandoned a sinking ship though, because it's utter BS. Hogan was FIRED because he was putting more holes in the ship all the while telling everyone that he was patching the hull. Hogan would never have left TNA. He's beyond desperate for money at this point in his life.
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Post by skylerb97 on Dec 23, 2013 16:01:09 GMT -5
Dixie Carter and Jeff Jarrett have never seen eye to eye, and she's benched him so many times it's not even funny. The word is that Dixie sees Angle as the future of the company, and Angle and Jeff still have a lot of hard feelings, so chances that Jeff was going to get any decent matches any time soon were pretty slim, at best. It makes sense for him to throw in the towel and go to work for someone else. WWE doesn't want him, they already know what a piece of crap he is, but RoH is always desperate for anything resembling name talent. I have to address the notion that Hogan abandoned a sinking ship though, because it's utter BS. Hogan was FIRED because he was putting more holes in the ship all the while telling everyone that he was patching the hull. Hogan would never have left TNA. He's beyond desperate for money at this point in his life. Hasn't everything Hogans been involved with outside of wrestling failed? I don't know the ramifications for a successful reality show (other than raitings but I consider it a failure in terms of entertainment value. But tars me being subjective |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 23, 2013 16:08:42 GMT -5
Aside from Hogan Knows Best (which was only a moderate success, really), yeah, Hogan has failed at pretty much everything he's ever touched.
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Post by ethanm1834 on Dec 23, 2013 16:12:38 GMT -5
So here is my question for others. Is there any scenario that TNA can fix themselves at this point? The last few weeks have been entertaining from what I watched, but is it too late to save itself from complete destruction?
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Post by number1jf on Dec 23, 2013 16:29:29 GMT -5
So the founder is gone & by the summer of 2014 (should be well before then) TNA will be just another company to fall. This sucks for WWE, as they no longer have someone to copy/mimic storylines from (Aces & Eights debut & attack everyone, months later The Shield debuts & attacks everyone).
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Post by muta75 on Dec 23, 2013 16:30:32 GMT -5
So here is my question for others. Is there any scenario that TNA can fix themselves at this point? The last few weeks have been entertaining from what I watched, but is it too late to save itself from complete destruction? actually do WRESTLING. no more moronic angles. no more idiotic match stipulations only to ignore the basic logic of a match. they have good young talent yet seem to only push middle aged retreads, it would be a good idea to stop that. |
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Post by muta75 on Dec 23, 2013 16:35:10 GMT -5
So the founder is gone & by the summer of 2014 (should be well before then) TNA will be just another company to fall. This sucks for WWE, as they no longer have someone to copy/mimic storylines from (Aces & Eights debut & attack everyone, months later The Shield debuts & attacks everyone). wow...factions attacking people predate aces and eights...good fail there.. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 23, 2013 16:44:13 GMT -5
So the founder is gone & by the summer of 2014 (should be well before then) TNA will be just another company to fall. This sucks for WWE, as they no longer have someone to copy/mimic storylines from (Aces & Eights debut & attack everyone, months later The Shield debuts & attacks everyone). ... you.. you're kidding, right? Aces & Eights was a blatant rip-off of the nWo... and every other "faction invasion" storyline in the history of humanity. How the $#@! are you seriously sitting there suggesting that The Shield is a rip-off of Aces & Eights??? |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 23, 2013 16:44:18 GMT -5
Sorry Number, but TNA copied stories from WWE a whole lot more than WWE copied from TNA.
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Post by muta75 on Dec 23, 2013 16:51:53 GMT -5
Devastation Inc. was 30+ years ago, they weren't even the first...
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Post by wildknight on Dec 23, 2013 16:53:07 GMT -5
Devastation Inc. was 30+ years ago, they weren't even the first... Ha! Nerd! Actually that's pretty impressive wrasslin' knowledge there muta. I'm proud of ya. |
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Post by number1jf on Dec 23, 2013 16:53:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I was just seeing the reaction to the Aces & Eights-Shield comparison (it just seemed to be that way to me, so sudden), but really they copy from each other/gain ideas by watching each other's product often.
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Post by number1jf on Dec 23, 2013 16:56:50 GMT -5
Honestly, we would have to find the very first team invasion & say that every other invasion was a copy of that one. I just saw similarities & thought that maybe the idea of "The Shield" spawned from the debut of the Aces & Eights & WWE wanted to keep up.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 23, 2013 17:00:45 GMT -5
Keep up? Dude by every standard, Aces & Eights has been a complete failure. There's nothing to keep up with. Aside from the broad concept of a new faction showing up and blindsiding people, there's virtually no similarity in concept or delivery between The Shield and Aces & Eights. Aces & Eights is in the vein of the nWo, large an organization that existed to get the belt for, and keep the belt on, it's central figure. The Shield is a self-serving gaggle of young guys trying to make an impact while defending their bad behavior with a claim of righting wrongs, ala The Nexus.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 23, 2013 17:00:50 GMT -5
So I'm struggling here, what ideas has WWE ripped off from TNA?
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Post by wildknight on Dec 23, 2013 17:01:49 GMT -5
So I'm struggling here, what ideas has WWE ripped off from TNA? Given that WWE and WCW did everything under the sun before there WAS a TNA, the only way one could legitimately argue that WWE ripped off TNA is if they suddenly showed up with a six sided ring or a match where you had to grab a giant red "X" suspended above the ring without using a ladder 8) |
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