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Post by monkeywool on Jan 23, 2014 16:42:29 GMT -5
Pity none of you guys that I actually like is in the UK, got a spare for Raw at the o2 and no takers from my friend circle. Apparently having kids means you can't stay out to midnight watching wrestling. Where is zeo when you need him? I've got kids, and I go to wrestling shows every chance I get. Your friends are just boring 8) Possibly. I'd imagine they just don't want to travel 4 hours to London and back again - it's an all day event for us really. |
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Post by monkeywool on Jan 23, 2014 16:43:12 GMT -5
or your friends don't like you enough to spend that much time with you... Nah, my friends are actually real friends. 'Tis what happens. |
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Post by muta75 on Jan 23, 2014 16:56:41 GMT -5
ironically i don't like my friends enough to spend that amount of time with them...
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Post by wildknight on Jan 23, 2014 16:57:35 GMT -5
ironically i don't like my friends enough to spend that amount of time with them... Yeah 8 hours in a car to watch 3 hours of wrestling doesn't work for me either. |
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Post by monkeywool on Jan 23, 2014 17:01:12 GMT -5
ironically i don't like my friends enough to spend that amount of time with them... Yeah 8 hours in a car to watch 3 hours of wrestling doesn't work for me either. It's not as bad for Sam and I, we're going on the Sunday and coming back on the Tuesday, going to basically have a weekend in London and see the sights, go to the Harry Potter museum and national Science museum etc. (Sam loves Harry Potter) |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 23, 2014 17:02:31 GMT -5
Yeah 8 hours in a car to watch 3 hours of wrestling doesn't work for me either. It's not as bad for Sam and I, we're going on the Sunday and coming back on the Tuesday, going to basically have a weekend in London and see the sights, go to the Harry Potter museum and national Science museum etc. (Sam loves Harry Potter) That actually sounds awesome. |
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Post by monkeywool on Jan 23, 2014 18:36:54 GMT -5
It's not as bad for Sam and I, we're going on the Sunday and coming back on the Tuesday, going to basically have a weekend in London and see the sights, go to the Harry Potter museum and national Science museum etc. (Sam loves Harry Potter) That actually sounds awesome. It will be, a nice little 3 day break where we get to spend time together, and geek out insanely, culminating in WWE. Did I mention I love my girlfriend, she's the one who suggested it all. So lucky. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2014 18:38:42 GMT -5
I would also dispute the notion that Andre was "slow" or "clumsy" before his condition really started to take a toll on him. He wasn't the fastest guy in the world, certainly, but he moved well enough for a big guy and he actually had a pretty good understanding of wrestling fundamentals. ... of course, that was a time when you couldn't get into the wrestling industry at all without a good understanding of fundamentals. Unlike today. I agree. I have a bunch of old Andre matches, late 60's through the 70's and he moved around quite well, dropkicks and everything. He also lost and was bodyslamed quite a bit. There goes the whole Hogan was the first to beat or slam Andre angle. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 23, 2014 18:46:30 GMT -5
Yeah 8 hours in a car to watch 3 hours of wrestling doesn't work for me either. It's not as bad for Sam and I, we're going on the Sunday and coming back on the Tuesday, going to basically have a weekend in London and see the sights, go to the Harry Potter museum and national Science museum etc. (Sam loves Harry Potter) I've been to London a bunch of times. Fairly nice place, but I gotta admit. Never went to the Harry Potter museum(Because I don't like Harry Potter). |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 23, 2014 20:13:22 GMT -5
I agree. I have a bunch of old Andre matches, late 60's through the 70's and he moved around quite well, dropkicks and everything. He also lost and was bodyslamed quite a bit. There goes the whole Hogan was the first to beat or slam Andre angle. Yeah, they were claiming Andre hadn't been beaten in 15 years, which was utter nonsense. Andre did dropkicks though, really? I've seen him do a kind of half-assed one-legged dropkick, but never fully execute the move. |
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 24, 2014 2:44:51 GMT -5
I would never call Waltman "humble." He's soft-spoken. That doesn't make him humble. I also don't think he's someone I'd like to hang out with, since he's a hard partying guy who defends his own drug abuse and seems about as deep as a bottlecap. That said, I do think he got an undeservedly bad reputation based on his association with The Kliq (actually, I think they ALL got undeservedly bad reputations, except for Michaels and Nash on the backstage douchery side, and Hall on the being an unreliable assnuggest side), and particularly due to his appearance on that idiotic reality show with Chyna, where the treatment of their relationship was entirely one-sided. In several of the shoots I've seen Waltman was reluctant to bury people and freely took responsibility for times that he was a jerk, made poor decisions, and his role in the mutually destructive relationship with Chyna. He strikes me as an extremely down to Earth guy who isn't particularly high on himself (giggle). |
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 24, 2014 2:46:13 GMT -5
I would also dispute the notion that Andre was "slow" or "clumsy" before his condition really started to take a toll on him. He wasn't the fastest guy in the world, certainly, but he moved well enough for a big guy and he actually had a pretty good understanding of wrestling fundamentals. ...Which is a nice way of saying that he was slow and clumsy. The only difference between the Andre of the 90s and the Andre of the 70s was the speed at which he sloppily executed a failed suplex. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 24, 2014 3:04:25 GMT -5
I like the way mike thinks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 7:07:10 GMT -5
I couldn't find his drop kick. I'll have to sift through those matches I have and upload it. Here is him getting slammed repeatedly before Wrestlemania III
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Post by wildknight on Jan 24, 2014 7:51:00 GMT -5
I would also dispute the notion that Andre was "slow" or "clumsy" before his condition really started to take a toll on him. He wasn't the fastest guy in the world, certainly, but he moved well enough for a big guy and he actually had a pretty good understanding of wrestling fundamentals. ...Which is a nice way of saying that he was slow and clumsy. The only difference between the Andre of the 90s and the Andre of the 70s was the speed at which he sloppily executed a failed suplex. Yeah, I don't agree with that at all. I don't think Andre was sloppy or particularly slow. I certainly don't think he was clumsy. Everyone in the industry basically agrees that if Andre wanted to hurt you, there was nothing you could do about it, but that he was usually a pleasure to work with because he was so capable. I'm not a huge Andre fan because I don't think JUST being huge is a qualification for greatness, but I also don't deny that he was a reasonably skilled worker in his time. |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 24, 2014 7:55:34 GMT -5
In several of the shoots I've seen Waltman was reluctant to bury people and freely took responsibility for times that he was a jerk, made poor decisions, and his role in the mutually destructive relationship with Chyna. He strikes me as an extremely down to Earth guy who isn't particularly high on himself (giggle). You and I have a different view of humility. Acknowledging that you're imperfect and taking responsibility for your mistakes is, in my mind, a minimum requirement for a decent human being, and not so much a positive quality in and of itself. Also; I just don't see unapologetic drug users as particularly self-aware human beings. If your life philosophy involves any version of the "if it feels good, do it" formulation, I have difficulty reconciling that with the trait of "humility", which inherently calls one to accept a greater order than one's own immediate desires. |
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 25, 2014 2:06:08 GMT -5
Have you watched his shoots? I don't know where you're getting this impression of him. Because he desires to smoke pot he's a flawed (or at least self-unaware) person? I'm straight edge and that strikes even me as an odd judgment. You make it sound as if he killed someone to score a dime bag.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 25, 2014 2:22:02 GMT -5
If you ask me....
All of my friends (the few that I have) smoke pot. I'm not going to consider them bad people because they believe that smoking pot should be legal and something everybody should try.
I believe that people have the right to do and/or believe what they want, as long as they don't try forcing those actions/beliefs on others.
Not to mention, smoking pot isn't like snorting cocaine.......to my knowledge, there are very little to no negatives of smoking pot.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 25, 2014 10:24:56 GMT -5
First of all, there are SEVERAL proven long term negative effects to smoking pot. In fact, they just recently released the results of the longest and largest scale study on pot use ever done... and it reinforced the results of several previous studies in showing that not only is the psychologically addictive element to pot extremely profound, it actually has a potent effect on brain function, particularly as it relates to your short term memory, which is a huge deal because nothing transfers into your long term memory without first being short term memory. There's also some evidence that even years after ceasing using marijuana, the cognitive abilities of the subject show significant impairment. 30 years ago the argument that marijuana was similar to alcohol was valid. Today's pot is literally more than one thousand times more potent.
Second of all, there is almost no such thing as a casual pot user. The fact that your pot using friends are so adamant that everyone should try it and that it should be legal serves as a pretty perfect encapsulation of that little bit of truth, as far as I'm concerned.
Third, and as most directly relates to Waltman; it's not his "desire" to use pot that makes me think he's not all that great of a person, it's the fact that he does use pot. I desire to do all sorts of things. It's choosing not to do them that separates me from the wild animals. By definition, sapience.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 10:41:38 GMT -5
First of all, there are SEVERAL proven long term negative effects to smoking pot. In fact, they just recently released the results of the longest and largest scale study on pot use ever done... and it reinforced the results of several previous studies in showing that not only is the psychologically addictive element to pot extremely profound, it actually has a potent effect on brain function, particularly as it relates to your short term memory, which is a huge deal because nothing transfers into your long term memory without first being short term memory. There's also some evidence that even years after ceasing using marijuana, the cognitive abilities of the subject show significant impairment. 30 years ago the argument that marijuana was similar to alcohol was valid. Today's pot is literally more than one thousand times more potent. Second of all, there is almost no such thing as a casual pot user. The fact that your pot using friends are so adamant that everyone should try it and that it should be legal serves as a pretty perfect encapsulation of that little bit of truth, as far as I'm concerned. Third, and as most directly relates to Waltman; it's not his "desire" to use pot that makes me think he's not all that great of a person, it's the fact that he does use pot. I desire to do all sorts of things. It's choosing not to do them that separates me from the wild animals. By definition, sapience. Who conducted this study? I would love to peruse it. |
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