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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 20:56:56 GMT -5
There are millions of talented writers in the world. The VAST majority of them will never make a dime at it. ... actually, the same is true of any artistic medium. Yeah, I don't care. I'm going to pursue the career of a writer even if I end up poorer than dirt.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 20:59:40 GMT -5
Well I used to write pretty crappy in high school. I did the work and usually got a good grade because I turned it in. When I got to college I met a professor who thought I had potential and would flat out tell me that I sucked if I did. She's really taught me a lot in terms of writing historically. Right now I hate my English class because the teacher is incredibly strict on essays. She limits you to an extraordinary degree. You can't use rhetorical questions, you can't use past or future tense(Even if you're writing about f***ing history, which we have had to do with every essay thus far), you can't put any emotion into your writing. It's ridiculous really. I feel like it's hindering me more than it's helping me.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 22, 2014 21:01:26 GMT -5
There are millions of talented writers in the world. The VAST majority of them will never make a dime at it. ... actually, the same is true of any artistic medium. Yeah, I don't care. I'm going to pursue the career of a writer even if I end up poorer than dirt. Normally I think you're a pretty smart kid, but that's one of the dumbest things you've ever said. People who say they care about you but honestly don't care enough to be honest with you are going to tell you idiotic things, like "if it's what you really want, follow your heart." Those people are either hopelessly naive or don't really give half a $#@! about you. Two words; backup plan. I'm not even talking about being "poorer than dirt" or not... I'm talking about surviving at all without spending your life suckling off your Mommy & Daddy's teat or the taxpayers' There is no such thing as the nobility of the starving artist. The starving artist is a selfish $#@! who thinks that his "art" is SO important that it's okay for him to drain others so that he doesn't have to get an honest job.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 22, 2014 21:02:15 GMT -5
In terms of writing historically, it's really not a good thing to write emotionally. You've got to stick to facts and sources to prove your thesis. However, trying to write historically without past tense is extremely stupid.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 21:03:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't care. I'm going to pursue the career of a writer even if I end up poorer than dirt. Normally I think you're a pretty smart kid, but that's one of the dumbest things you've ever said. People who say they care about you but honestly don't care enough to be honest with you are going to tell you idiotic things, like "if it's what you really want, follow your heart." Those people are either hopelessly naive or don't really give half a $#@! about you. Two words; backup plan. I'm not even talking about being "poorer than dirt" or not... I'm talking about surviving at all without spending your life suckling off your Mommy & Daddy's teat or the taxpayers' There is no such thing as the nobility of the starving artist. The starving artist is a selfish $#@! who thinks that his "art" is SO important that it's okay for him to drain others so that he doesn't have to get an honest job. I never said I wanted to rely on others.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 22, 2014 21:03:33 GMT -5
In terms of writing historically, it's really not a good thing to write emotionally. You've got to stick to facts and sources to prove your thesis. However, trying to write historically without past tense is extremely stupid. Historical fiction is a pretty hot literary genre right now. Most of it sucks, but the same is true of most writings of any genre.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 22, 2014 21:04:02 GMT -5
I never said I wanted to rely on others. But you did. Just not in so many words.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 21:04:41 GMT -5
In terms of writing historically, it's really not a good thing to write emotionally. You've got to stick to facts and sources to prove your thesis. However, trying to write historically without past tense is extremely stupid. Except that the essays we write are about our personal beliefs. I find it very difficult to discuss my beliefs without having any emotion. It's just not feasible for me.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 22, 2014 21:06:54 GMT -5
Personally, I'm not much at all on historical fiction. If I'm reading something historical I want it to be true.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 21:06:54 GMT -5
I never said I wanted to rely on others. But you did. Just not in so many words. I said I would pursue the career of a writer even if I ended up poorer than dirt. That doesn't mean I'm going to rely on others. Sure it's idiocy, and I understand that, but I truly cannot picture myself being anything other than a writer. I've tried and tried to pursue other ideas of careers but there's nothing else for me. I don't care about money so much as doing what I love.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 22, 2014 21:08:48 GMT -5
In terms of writing historically, it's really not a good thing to write emotionally. You've got to stick to facts and sources to prove your thesis. However, trying to write historically without past tense is extremely stupid. Except that the essays we write are about our personal beliefs. I find it very difficult to discuss my beliefs without having any emotion. It's just not feasible for me. I seriously question your English teacher's qualifications and common sense in general.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 22, 2014 21:10:02 GMT -5
I said I would pursue the career of a writer even if I ended up poorer than dirt. That doesn't mean I'm going to rely on others. Sure it's idiocy, and I understand that, but I truly cannot picture myself being anything other than a writer. I've tried and tried to pursue other ideas of careers but there's nothing else for me. I don't care about money so much as doing what I love. I would think this should go without saying, but apparently not. You're 15 years old. You have no conception of what a "career" even is. Beyond that, the majority of people will have multiple careers in their adult life, so it's ridiculous for you to say that you can't possibly have any other career than being a writer. "Doing what you love" is also an absurd sentiment.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 21:11:11 GMT -5
I said I would pursue the career of a writer even if I ended up poorer than dirt. That doesn't mean I'm going to rely on others. Sure it's idiocy, and I understand that, but I truly cannot picture myself being anything other than a writer. I've tried and tried to pursue other ideas of careers but there's nothing else for me. I don't care about money so much as doing what I love. I would think this should go without saying, but apparently not. You're 15 years old. You have no conception of what a "career" even is. Beyond that, the majority of people will have multiple careers in their adult life, so it's ridiculous for you to say that you can't possibly have any other career than being a writer. "Doing what you love" is also an absurd sentiment. Maybe you're right, or maybe you're wrong. I guess I'll just have to see...(Although I'll probably have a small part-time backup job of course, I'm not all that stupid)
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Post by wildknight on Jan 22, 2014 21:11:18 GMT -5
Except that the essays we write are about our personal beliefs. I find it very difficult to discuss my beliefs without having any emotion. It's just not feasible for me. I seriously question your English teacher's qualifications and common sense in general. Nah, an essay is, by definition, an analytical piece. es·say [n. es-ey for 1, 2; es-ey, e-sey for 3–5; v. e-sey] noun 1. a short literary composition on a particular theme or subject, usually in prose and generally analytic, speculative, or interpretative. The problem here is not that he's writing essays that include his opinion. The problem is that he's emotionally involved with the subject.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 22, 2014 21:13:01 GMT -5
I seriously question your English teacher's qualifications and common sense in general. The problem here is not that he's writing essays that include his opinion. The problem is that he's emotionally involved with the subject. Because the subjects are on things that it's hard not to have an emotional attachment to.(At least for me)
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Post by wildknight on Jan 22, 2014 21:16:02 GMT -5
The problem here is not that he's writing essays that include his opinion. The problem is that he's emotionally involved with the subject. Because the subjects are on things that it's hard not to have an emotional attachment to.(At least for me) Emotional involvement is always a weakness. It's why I have such an easy time picking you guys apart in arguments, for the most part. Learn to control your emotions. They should work for you, not the other way around.
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Post by WSS? on Jan 22, 2014 21:51:22 GMT -5
Learn to control your emotions. They should work for you, not the other way around. Make Jedi-like statements all you want, you still won't have the force.
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Post by setokaiba on Jan 22, 2014 21:52:55 GMT -5
Learn to control your emotions. They should work for you, not the other way around. Make Jedi-like statements all you want, you still won't have the force.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 22, 2014 21:55:40 GMT -5
Learn to control your emotions. They should work for you, not the other way around. Make Jedi-like statements all you want, you still won't have the force. I actually think the Jedi philosophy, while cool for movies, is absolutely idiotic as applied to real life. It's also a self-contradictory, both instructing people to "feel" their way through life, while instructing them to be dispassionate.
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jan 28, 2014 9:17:45 GMT -5
You're kidding me. Stewie watches the same wrestling reviewer as me? Well, I was starting to get tired of watching Bruce Blitz anyways. Always calling Cena a 'virgin', as if that is a bad thing. I do not like listening to those who cannot think outside of their own little world.
Bruce himself is OK, but his friends are complete idiots. Also, not that this gives him any credibility, but he did do professional wrestling himself for a while. He even wrestled CM Punk in the indies a couple of times.
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