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Post by wildknight on Jan 29, 2014 23:51:37 GMT -5
As I've mentioned, I usually try to re-visit things that I didn't enjoy the first time around to see if I simply didn't give them enough of a chance or lacked the proper insights to enjoy them the first time around. Currently I'm doing that with the show Star Trek: Voyager. This show $#@!ing sucks. I was right the first time. Wow. Just... wow. It is unquestionably the "Phantom Menace" of the Trek universe. It's the only Trek show I know of where the person playing the Captain is the worst actor on the entire show.
Just... pathetic garbage. Garbage.
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Post by pinksparklepuff on Jan 29, 2014 23:57:04 GMT -5
Sounds like a painful experience.
I have a low tolerance for garbage so I don't know what anyone, if anyone, would benefit from me trying such a thing.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 29, 2014 23:58:00 GMT -5
Sometimes something you initially think is bad ends up having some redeeming value later on. That's why I do this stuff. You've got to be willing to re-evaluate your positions from time to time.
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Post by WSS? on Jan 30, 2014 0:44:16 GMT -5
Not really TV shows, but the first time I watched a JonTron video I didn't like it at all, now I've watched probably all of his videos.
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Post by Rush on Jan 30, 2014 11:16:50 GMT -5
I don't like Star Trek at all so I would never enjoy any tv renditions of the show. I went back to watching Malcolm in the middle on Netflix. Damn it's weird watching these again also cuts close to home to which makes it even creepier
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 31, 2014 5:27:07 GMT -5
Saw The Blair Witch Project in the theater to see what all the fuss was about and hated almost every miserable moment of it. When it came out on video (like a month or so later, no doubt rushed to capitalize while they could before people came to their senses) I grudgingly rented it to see if somehow I had just been too hard on it and ignored the critics to unfairly judge it as a piece of crap.
Nope.
Never bothered to do the same for TV, at least not that I can remember. I'm extremely picky and often take a very long time coming around to checking something out. I usually seem to subconsciously wait for the hype to die down on something before taking the time to view it on my own terms, at my own leisure. I don't know if it's because of this but I seem to have avoided most things that people seem to hate. Missed some great stuff as well, no doubt, but I'm lucky (or choosy) enough to not really have a need to revisit anything that I dislike because I tend to have avoided it in the first place.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 31, 2014 8:13:02 GMT -5
Blair Witch was one of the worst abominations I've ever seen, if not the worst. I fucking hate that movie so much.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 31, 2014 10:02:52 GMT -5
LOL
Yeah, I don't hate Blair Witch on the level that you guys do, but I'd agree that it was thoroughly crap
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 31, 2014 14:25:09 GMT -5
It's one of the few movies that I completely dislike from basically top to bottom. I don't just hate it, I hate that the filmmakers basically tricked the public to make it a success. Shrewd? Sure. Cheap and manipulative? Absolutely.
A show that I used to love as a kid was Mr. Ed. I do kind of wonder if it would still stand up if I tried to watch it today.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 31, 2014 14:27:34 GMT -5
As a kid, I loved Howard the Duck. Afraid to watch it again though......might suck, lol.
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 31, 2014 14:34:31 GMT -5
You know, I also loved Howard the Duck as a kid and not long ago said that I'd imagine it to be absolutely terrible as an adult. Surprisingly Knight said that it's still actually pretty entertaining which is high praise for something most commonly thought of as absolute drek, so I wouldn't mind checking it out to see if I agree. The movie wasn't even bad for what it was trying to be, it just has a bad reputation because the movie bombed and the character's creators didn't like it.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 31, 2014 14:39:28 GMT -5
If I had been familiar with the character Howard the Duck from the comics before I saw the movie, I never would have watched the movie, because I hate "silly" characters in serious comic worlds, and Howard the Duck is a Main Offender. That's my roundabout way of saying that the fact that the creators didn't like the movie is probably part of why I enjoyed it 8)
The special effects and such really don't hold up at all though.
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 31, 2014 15:29:30 GMT -5
I don't know though, to me there's a special type of affection for cheesy 80s Harryhausen effects. ED-209? Still love that shit.
I retroactively developed a greater appreciation for Howard the Duck when I learned that he had an indirect relationship with Sergio Aragones' "Groo the Wanderer", my favorite comic growing up. I'm sure that you're familiar with the rebellion against the "comics code" of the 80s so I won't bore you with the details but basically the creators of Howard the Duck made an offshoot called "Destroyer Duck" in which the main character finds his cohorts literally disappearing at the hands of an ominous and oppressive shadow corporation (which was, of course, thinly veiled protest against the CCA). Destroyer Duck makes it his mission to investigate and topple this evil organization and was occasionally supported by cameos from other artists' characters, including the first appearance of Groo (who would ironically move from Pacific and be picked up by Marvel in short order).
So anyway yeah, I have a little side reason to enjoy the work of the Howard team. I should check the movie out again whether they hated it or not.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 31, 2014 15:35:30 GMT -5
The CCA thing cracks me up. The Government was "looking into" comic books (because, hey, they had nothing more important to do than investigate whether comic books were turning kids gay or something), so the comic companies voluntarily made up an organization run primarily by former comic book industry insiders who set a bunch of rules that a comic book had to follow in order to get a little stamp on their cover... but the companies were still free to sell books without the CCA stamp, and it wasn't even until the 80's that the fans even really noticed the CCA stamp at all, or cared about it's presence... and then it was because the two major companies started putting out stuff that didn't have the CCA stamp, and the fans thought "this is more interesting, why is this more interesting?"
... then being good Americans, the comic companies went overboard and made comics something that no child should ever read by the end of the 90's. I love this country. No middle ground.
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 31, 2014 15:37:55 GMT -5
LOL yep, that's it in a nutshell. It was kind of a hilarious time to read the indies.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 31, 2014 15:40:10 GMT -5
I never liked indy comics. I saw the writing on the wall right away. For every Savage Dragon there was a Spawn. While I've got nothing against comic books aimed at adults, I have a problem with EVERY comic book being "mature" material, and I think it's a great way for the comic books to shoot themselves in the feet by not building a future audience.
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 31, 2014 16:05:31 GMT -5
Oh it definitely depends on the comic. "The Eye of Mongombo" was a hilarious and well-illustrated little super indie about a man that is turned into a duck (again, ducks) by way of ancient revenge voodoo curse and embarks on an epic quest to retrieve a rare African gem to get himself turned back. It lasted 7 issues before the author, so disillusioned with the industry (and the specific fact that his work was overlooked for some kind of award in favor of The Punisher) that he up and quit.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 31, 2014 16:06:56 GMT -5
That's funny... because I love The Punisher 8)
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 31, 2014 16:08:57 GMT -5
Punisher is great.
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 31, 2014 16:15:57 GMT -5
Lol yeah it's hard to say whether the author was pissed because he felt that The Punisher is overrated, or simply that he himself was undervalued. He left humorously so at first it didn't seem like it was legit, but when it became clear that he wasn't producing further issues it seems "that was that". Here's a page from one of his issues (one of the few on the net), a throwaway page about a wrestling match between Hercules and Jesus.  |
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