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Post by wildknight on Mar 19, 2014 15:46:09 GMT -5
But... but.. . he's a psychopath. There is no such thing as a "psychopath for good!" It just doesn't exist. Carnage's primary purpose in existence is murder. A defining characteristic of heroes is that they seek every other option before killing, and the really good ones never ever kill at all. He would be the one they dropped out because he killed all the villains. (Well maybe not Galactus but you know what i mean.) And there's no superhero who is like that one i will like more than the others (Fallen into the deep abyss of depression. He decided to become a superhero. Because if he can't be happy he wants to make others happy. And well... save lives.) when Marvel/DC will make a hero like this (and make him into cool suit) i will give that brand more credits (well... probably). You just described half of the characters in comics, especially if they were created in the 1990's. The current version of Hawkeye is essentially exactly that character, and Iron Man was like that for a good chunk of the last decade... |
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Post by wildknight on Mar 19, 2014 15:47:36 GMT -5
Carnage wouldn't work as a Hero, dude. He's evil, and that's what's great about him... I wouldn't change his personality. He would be like "Whoops another villain killed..." even tough he is bad. That's why he would be a hero. ... that's not heroic. Not in the comic book milieu. Killing in comics is (for the most part) stupid, stupid, stupid. Anybody can kill people they disagree with. It doesn't take special powers or a high tech suit. It takes a hero NOT to kill. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 15:47:49 GMT -5
You don't know the "Amazing Spodomon" meme? Also i write his name because i like the character (the comic book Spidey) but i got sick of it when they showed Spiderman 3 a 100000th time... |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Mar 19, 2014 15:49:05 GMT -5
Carnage wouldn't work as a Hero, dude. He's evil, and that's what's great about him... I wouldn't change his personality. He would be like "Whoops another villain killed..." even tough he is bad. That's why he would be a hero. ....Carnage would kill heroes too though. That's part of his character (?) If you change that, you change his personality. |
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Post by wildknight on Mar 19, 2014 15:49:34 GMT -5
You don't know the "Amazing Spodomon" meme? Also i write his name because i like the character (the comic book Spidey) but i got sick of it when they showed Spiderman 3 a 100000th time... You know you can just turn the TV off, right? |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Mar 19, 2014 15:50:14 GMT -5
You don't know the "Amazing Spodomon" meme? Also i write his name because i like the character (the comic book Spidey) but i got sick of it when they showed Spiderman 3 a 100000th time... The meme is Spoderman. Even then, why not just call him Spider-man or spidey? That movie should not define the greatness that is Spidey. |
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Post by iodill8 on Mar 19, 2014 15:51:09 GMT -5
Nope. That wouldn't count as hero.
Carnage is Carnarge. To him, bloodshed is bloodshed, which is why the heroes fight against him.
This notion that his psychopathic, bloodthirsty nature would be good for being a hero is as fucked up as someone being a Brock Lesnar fan, no offense to you at all though.
Venom, however,would make more sense to be an Avenger. He's just not full-time Avenger material.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 15:53:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't change his personality. He would be like "Whoops another villain killed..." even tough he is bad. That's why he would be a hero. ... that's not heroic. Not in the comic book milieu. Killing in comics is (for the most part) stupid, stupid, stupid. Anybody can kill people they disagree with. It doesn't take special powers or a high tech suit. It takes a hero NOT to kill. I didn't said i want him to be a comic book hero. I said he would be a good movie hero (see: Rambo). That's another thing that he would be in a comic book movie (well i would do that because Marvel has the rights of Carnage, other than that i would make an action movie with Carnage where he kills the Villains instead of innocent people (like he kills Dock Ock to say a familiar name because he dropped the man he caught. It would be an action/funny (i forgot the term for funny films) film.) |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Mar 19, 2014 15:53:53 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks that sometimes actions need to be made and heroes should kill, lol?
Joker for instance should die. Risking one life is better than risking how many Joker has tried/has killed.
Of course, I agree more though that he shouldn't, because anybody with a name shouldn't die, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 15:54:14 GMT -5
You don't know the "Amazing Spodomon" meme? Also i write his name because i like the character (the comic book Spidey) but i got sick of it when they showed Spiderman 3 a 100000th time... The meme is Spoderman. Even then, why not just call him Spider-man or spidey? That movie should not define the greatness that is Spidey. I always saw that meme titled Spodomon... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 15:54:38 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks that sometimes actions need to be made and heroes should kill, lol? Joker for instance should die. Risking one life is better than risking how many Joker has tried/has killed. Of course, I agree more though that he shouldn't, because anybody with a name shouldn't die, lol. Agreed. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Mar 19, 2014 15:55:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 15:56:20 GMT -5
You don't know the "Amazing Spodomon" meme? Also i write his name because i like the character (the comic book Spidey) but i got sick of it when they showed Spiderman 3 a 100000th time... You know you can just turn the TV off, right? Not when my dad watches it with yelling TV. And closing the door don't works. |
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Post by wildknight on Mar 19, 2014 15:57:16 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks that sometimes actions need to be made and heroes should kill, lol? Joker for instance should die. Risking one life is better than risking how many Joker has tried/has killed. Of course, I agree more though that he shouldn't, because anybody with a name shouldn't die, lol. As a philosophy, I oppose vigilante killing in all circumstances. If someone raped my wife or my daughter, I might violate that principal, but that wouldn't make it right, it would make me wrong. No individual should ever have the right to enforce their own personal vision of justice. Not crossing that line is the only thing that keeps Batman sane. Would I support Joker being put to death by the government after he was convicted by a jury of his peers? Absolutely. As you said though... the real reason not to kill him is because it's a comic book, and if he were dead, comic books wouldn't be as much fun to read. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 15:57:26 GMT -5
I wasn't saying that you're not right. I was saying that i've been lied to all this time. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Mar 19, 2014 15:58:28 GMT -5
I wasn't saying that you're not right. I was saying that i've been lied to all this time. Lol I was showing that in the pictures, they say Spoderman  |
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Post by WrestleClown on Mar 19, 2014 16:00:23 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks that sometimes actions need to be made and heroes should kill, lol? Joker for instance should die. Risking one life is better than risking how many Joker has tried/has killed. Of course, I agree more though that he shouldn't, because anybody with a name shouldn't die, lol. As a philosophy, I oppose vigilante killing in all circumstances. If someone raped my wife or my daughter, I might violate that principal, but that wouldn't make it right, it would make me wrong. No individual should ever have the right to enforce their own personal vision of justice. Not crossing that line is the only thing that keeps Batman sane. Would I support Joker being put to death by the government after he was convicted by a jury of his peers? Absolutely. As you said though... the real reason not to kill him is because it's a comic book, and if he were dead, comic books wouldn't be as much fun to read. Summed up my feelings on that question perfectly. *Honk* |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 16:01:32 GMT -5
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Mar 19, 2014 16:05:06 GMT -5
I can make a Captain America one, yeah |
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Post by wildknight on Mar 19, 2014 16:06:23 GMT -5
Which, actually, brings me to an all important rule of table top RPGs. If you've ever played them before, you know this.
The Golden Rule of table top RPGs is this; EVERYONE in the group should be having fun. Doing things that irritate others just because it gives you giggles is the worst thing you can do in an RPG. It's disruptive and ruins the flow. Conversely, you should be more interested in doing things that enhance the fun than doing "the smart thing."
I'll use Hulk as an example. Hulk is a world class idiot. He should be played as one, so long as it enhances the game rather than detracts from it. Punching Thor when there's no action and it doesn't hurt the team's chances of success? Great. Punching Thor in the middle of a life-or-death struggle? Not so much 8)
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