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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2014 18:23:38 GMT -5
I can help you a little bit. Chuck's signature move is a spinning roundhouse chick. Well....... something like that. I know what a spinning roundhouse kick is ati. I don't know what kimute (I forgot honestly) means. l no I'm stating something judging an art form based on who makes it look easy and letting that be the deciding factor in a comparison is a problem I couldn't disagree more. If somebody's not making something look easy, then they're simply not good. That's simple. There's literally no denying that, lol. I know. Everyone knows that move. I was just making a joke. |
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Post by skylerb97 on Apr 8, 2014 18:24:25 GMT -5
I can help you a little bit. Chuck's signature move is a spinning roundhouse chick. Well....... something like that. I know what a spinning roundhouse kick is ati. I don't know what kimute (I forgot honestly) means. l no I'm stating something judging an art form based on who makes it look easy and letting that be the deciding factor in a comparison is a problem I couldn't disagree more. If somebody's not making something look easy, then they're simply not good. That's simple. There's literally no denying that, lol. I'm not denying that I'm saying it's not exactly a great way to go about judging something. Side note why do all our disagreements boil down to specifics |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Apr 8, 2014 18:25:23 GMT -5
Also, if you're insinuating that "Making it look easy" is a problem, then I'm sorry, but you're wrong, lol. it's not about "looking cool" or "looking easy". it's about effectiveness. most martial arts are only effective against itself. put a jeet kun do fighter against a sambo fighter..and watch the sambo fighter walk away as jeet kun do boy lays twitching on the ground. Looking cool isn't exactly what I make a deciding factor when it comes to fights. I consider that a deciding factor when it comes to Martial Arts. No, martial arts is not only a fighting sport, it's an art. That being said, I agree. When it comes to fighting, effectiveness is quite clearly something that's needed. You need to know your strengths, your weaknesses, your opponent's strengths, and your opponent's weaknesses. You need to take the fighting styles into consideration and you need to be able to have a good plan, and think on the spot. Most importantly, you need to know how to use that knowledge to your advantage in a fight. I'm sorry, but I see all of that stuff in Lee more than I do Norris. |
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Post by muta75 on Apr 8, 2014 18:25:29 GMT -5
Chuck's not really that great of a martial artist, lol. Bruce would win, at least if you ask me. Have you ever seen Bruce actually fight? as a jeet kun do practitioner, no one has.. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2014 18:26:37 GMT -5
I can help you a little bit. Chuck's signature move is a spinning roundhouse chick. Well....... something like that. "signature"? no his "signature move" is whatever knocks you out..add in jiu jitsu and he can then take you down and submit you.. Dude it was a joke... no need to eat my face off because i made a joke... |
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Post by skylerb97 on Apr 8, 2014 18:27:05 GMT -5
"signature"? no his "signature move" is whatever knocks you out..add in jiu jitsu and he can then take you down and submit you.. Dude it was a joke... no need to eat my face off because i made a joke... that happens a lot |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Apr 8, 2014 18:27:36 GMT -5
Have you ever seen Bruce actually fight? as a jeet kun do practitioner, no one has.. No, some have. Remember the Wong Jack Man fight? |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Apr 8, 2014 18:27:50 GMT -5
Chuck's not really that great of a martial artist, lol. Bruce would win, at least if you ask me. Have you ever seen Bruce actually fight? Obviously, lol. Like I've said, I've done quite a bit of research on Lee. The dude's amazing. I've probably watched more of Lee than you have, lol. I know what a spinning roundhouse kick is ati. I don't know what kimute (I forgot honestly) means. I couldn't disagree more. If somebody's not making something look easy, then they're simply not good. That's simple. There's literally no denying that, lol. I'm not denying that I'm saying it's not exactly a great way to go about judging something. Side note why do all our disagreements boil down to specifics How isn't it exactly? |
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Post by muta75 on Apr 8, 2014 18:27:54 GMT -5
it's not about "looking cool" or "looking easy". it's about effectiveness. most martial arts are only effective against itself. put a jeet kun do fighter against a sambo fighter..and watch the sambo fighter walk away as jeet kun do boy lays twitching on the ground. Looking cool isn't exactly what I make a deciding factor when it comes to fights. I consider that a deciding factor when it comes to Martial Arts. No, martial arts is not only a fighting sport, it's an art. That being said, I agree. When it comes to fighting, effectiveness is quite clearly something that's needed. You need to know your strengths, your weaknesses, your opponent's strengths, and your opponent's weaknesses. You need to take the fighting styles into consideration and you need to be able to have a good plan, and think on the spot. Most importantly, you need to know how to use that knowledge to your advantage in a fight. I'm sorry, but I see all of that stuff in Lee more than I do Norris. you're basing this on movies...stunts..not actual fighting. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Apr 8, 2014 18:29:24 GMT -5
Have you ever seen Bruce actually fight? Obviously, lol. Like I've said, I've done quite a bit of research on Lee. The dude's amazing. I've probably watched more of Lee than you have, lol. Interesting... Seeing as there is zero footage of ANY of his fights. Zip, none. Hell the only fight of his that is confirmed to actually have happened is the Wong Jack Man fight. |
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Post by muta75 on Apr 8, 2014 18:29:29 GMT -5
as a jeet kun do practitioner, no one has.. No, some have. Remember the Wong Jack Man fight? erm no. if you're going by the movie than you're sitting there with bane in the "wrong box" |
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Post by skylerb97 on Apr 8, 2014 18:29:30 GMT -5
Have you ever seen Bruce actually fight? Obviously, lol. Like I've said, I've done quite a bit of research on Lee. The dude's amazing. I've probably watched more of Lee than you have, lol. I'm not denying that I'm saying it's not exactly a great way to go about judging something. Side note why do all our disagreements boil down to specifics How isn't it exactly? remember when I said people Who think Chucks great base it off stunts, your doing the same now with Bruce |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Apr 8, 2014 18:29:34 GMT -5
Looking cool isn't exactly what I make a deciding factor when it comes to fights. I consider that a deciding factor when it comes to Martial Arts. No, martial arts is not only a fighting sport, it's an art. That being said, I agree. When it comes to fighting, effectiveness is quite clearly something that's needed. You need to know your strengths, your weaknesses, your opponent's strengths, and your opponent's weaknesses. You need to take the fighting styles into consideration and you need to be able to have a good plan, and think on the spot. Most importantly, you need to know how to use that knowledge to your advantage in a fight. I'm sorry, but I see all of that stuff in Lee more than I do Norris. you're basing this on movies...stunts..not actual fighting. Fair enough. Then again, I think that can still show a lot. *shrugs* |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Apr 8, 2014 18:30:41 GMT -5
No, some have. Remember the Wong Jack Man fight? erm no. if you're going by the movie than you're sitting there with bane in the "wrong box" Of course not. The fight did however happen. The movie was a load of horsecrap though. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Apr 8, 2014 18:31:13 GMT -5
you're basing this on movies...stunts..not actual fighting. Fair enough. Then again, I think that can still show a lot. *shrugs* I can show you footage of Norris having a real fight. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Apr 8, 2014 18:31:12 GMT -5
Obviously, lol. Like I've said, I've done quite a bit of research on Lee. The dude's amazing. I've probably watched more of Lee than you have, lol. How isn't it exactly? remember when I said people Who think Chucks great base it off stunts, your doing the same now with Bruce If you're insinuating that that's not fighting still, I'm going to disagree with you....He clearly shows it. Choreographed or not, he does it. Obviously, lol. Like I've said, I've done quite a bit of research on Lee. The dude's amazing. I've probably watched more of Lee than you have, lol. Interesting... Seeing as there is zero footage of ANY of his fights. Zip, none. Hell the only fight of his that is confirmed to actually have happened is the Wong Jack Man fight. I don't get what's wrong about basing it on stunts and the art itself. Also, I think I answered these backwards but am too lazy to change it. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Apr 8, 2014 18:31:38 GMT -5
Fair enough. Then again, I think that can still show a lot. *shrugs* I can show you footage of Norris having a real fight. I've seen Norris fight. Still, nothing special. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Apr 8, 2014 18:32:18 GMT -5
Interesting... Seeing as there is zero footage of ANY of his fights. Zip, none. Hell the only fight of his that is confirmed to actually have happened is the Wong Jack Man fight. I don't get what's wrong about basing it on stunts and the art itself.  |
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Post by skylerb97 on Apr 8, 2014 18:33:03 GMT -5
remember when I said people Who think Chucks great base it off stunts, your doing the same now with Bruce If you're insinuating that that's not fighting still, I'm going to disagree with you....He clearly shows it. Choreographed or not, he does it. Interesting... Seeing as there is zero footage of ANY of his fights. Zip, none. Hell the only fight of his that is confirmed to actually have happened is the Wong Jack Man fight. I don't get what's wrong about basing it on stunts and the art itself. Also, I think I answered these backwards but am too lazy to change it. I'm not insinuating that what is it with you and thinking I'm making an assumption that isn't there. It shows a lot, however it's not exactly a tell-tale indicator of everything someone's capable of |
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Post by skylerb97 on Apr 8, 2014 18:33:40 GMT -5
I don't get what's wrong about basing it on stunts and the art itself. then you never will... |
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