Religion/Beliefs Thread

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"Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time. Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man."
-Colossians 4:5-6 KJV

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"Therefor thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things."
-Romans 2:1 KJV

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"For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world"
-Titus 2:11-12 KJV

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"And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness comprehend it not"
-John 1:5 KJV

[SoonDragon67]

I've always been curious about predestination in relation to the bible and God. In my personal experience it seems to be one of the most polarizing beliefs within the branches of Christianity. I've been to churches that have taught that God predesignates every moment of our lives. I have also been to churches that taught the exact opposite, that God leaves us to our own designs. I personally believe that God put us here for a purpose, but that we choose the way our lives go in the end.

What are your guys' opinions on the subject?

[WhoCares?]

Hmm, this is where it gets a little confusing (for me, at least) to explain. Well, I believe that God knows everything there is to know. Yes, we do choose the way we live our lives, but I also believe God knows how we are going to live it. I mean, he created us, he knows our personalities and how we are as people.

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"For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth forever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you."
-1 Peter 1:24-25 KJV

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Would the Christians here please pray for me and my family? It is unspoken and very personal. Thanks in advance!

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"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting."
-Galatians 6:7-8 KJV

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"Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward anotheraccording to Christ Jesus: That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."
-Romans 15:5-6 KJV

[Straight Edge Steve]

Jun 14, 2014 0:05:15 GMT -5 SoonDragon67 said:

I've always been curious about predestination in relation to the bible and God. In my personal experience it seems to be one of the most polarizing beliefs within the branches of Christianity. I've been to churches that have taught that God predesignates every moment of our lives. I have also been to churches that taught the exact opposite, that God leaves us to our own designs. I personally believe that God put us here for a purpose, but that we choose the way our lives go in the end.

What are your guys' opinions on the subject?

To say that God has predetermined every little piece of our lives is ridiculous. It undermines logic. Nothing would make sense and pigs would commence in flight.

[WhoCares?]

Jun 16, 2014 23:05:44 GMT -5 Straight Edge Steve said:

Jun 14, 2014 0:05:15 GMT -5 SoonDragon67 said:

I've always been curious about predestination in relation to the bible and God. In my personal experience it seems to be one of the most polarizing beliefs within the branches of Christianity. I've been to churches that have taught that God predesignates every moment of our lives. I have also been to churches that taught the exact opposite, that God leaves us to our own designs. I personally believe that God put us here for a purpose, but that we choose the way our lives go in the end.

What are your guys' opinions on the subject?

To say that God has predetermined every little piece of our lives is ridiculous. It undermines logic. Nothing would make sense and pigs would commence in flight.

This may make little sense, but would it be logical to think logically with God? Remember, he is on an entirely different level than us. He does some things that we as humans could never understand.

[Straight Edge Steve]

Jun 16, 2014 23:08:36 GMT -5 WhoCares? said:

Jun 16, 2014 23:05:44 GMT -5 Straight Edge Steve said:

To say that God has predetermined every little piece of our lives is ridiculous. It undermines logic. Nothing would make sense and pigs would commence in flight.

This may make little sense, but would it be logical to think logically with God? Remember, he is on an entirely different level than us. He does some things that we as humans could never understand.

That is true, very true. I suppose it may not be our place to analyze his system of working the Earth.

[WhoCares?]

Also, another way to look at it is that God knows everything. That supports the fact that he knows what we will do in life.

[Straight Edge Steve]

Jun 16, 2014 23:11:51 GMT -5 WhoCares? said:

Also, another way to look at it is that God knows everything. That supports the fact that he knows what we will do in life.

I try not to think too much, because naturally, that causes me to doubt religion. It's best to just place my faith and hope for the best.

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Jun 16, 2014 23:13:32 GMT -5 Straight Edge Steve said:

Jun 16, 2014 23:11:51 GMT -5 WhoCares? said:

Also, another way to look at it is that God knows everything. That supports the fact that he knows what we will do in life.

I try not to think too much, because naturally, that causes me to doubt religion. It's best to just place my faith and hope for the best.

Well, not to sound rude, but hoping will get you nowhere. You have to believe with all you're heart, soul, strength, and mind. The doubt which you speak of would be Satan.

[Straight Edge Steve]

Jun 16, 2014 23:16:16 GMT -5 WhoCares? said:

Jun 16, 2014 23:13:32 GMT -5 Straight Edge Steve said:

I try not to think too much, because naturally, that causes me to doubt religion. It's best to just place my faith and hope for the best.

Well, not to sound rude, but hoping will get you nowhere. You have to believe with all you're heart, soul, strength, and mind.

And to do such, I must not analyze too much.

I must blindly follow God, and not question. I must convince myself that He is true, and His path is the right. I must devote Steve's life to God, and fulfill His plans.

I know this stuff. I just need to get myself a little more motivated.

[WhoCares?]

I've analyzed a lot, took a lot into consideration, and I eventually heard God's call. It isn't really blindly following, it is being lead by the Spirit of God into accepting what is right and wrong and like you said, devoting your life to God's will. It isn't bad to question, that just makes you human. I question a lot, and always end up remembering what God has done for me in my life. This reminds me of a song,

[Straight Edge Steve]

Jun 16, 2014 23:32:16 GMT -5 WhoCares? said:

I've analyzed a lot, took a lot into consideration, and I eventually heard God's call. It isn't really blindly following, it is being lead by the Spirit of God into accepting what is right and wrong and like you said, devoting your life to God's will. It isn't bad to question, that just makes you human. I question a lot, and always end up remembering what God has done for me in my life. This reminds me of a song,

That's it. I'm going to church. I'm tired of being distant from my lord and savior.

[WhoCares?]

If you ever have any amount of doubt, I would recommend listening to that song.