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Post by wildknight on Jul 13, 2014 1:51:33 GMT -5
How is Martian Manhunter a "bitch" exactly? Before you go on a rant(which I know you're ready to do) I said he was in the cartoon and movies. Every time he would fight he would was usually the first one to be knock out and in some cases by a single attack. I have no knowledge of the character beyond what I saw in the cartoons. *okay go ahead and rant* Your statement is BS. MM was NEVER the first guy to get knocked out, and certainly not by the first attack, unless said attack was fire... and I think that came up all of two or three times in the entire JL run.
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Post by wildknight on Jul 13, 2014 1:52:35 GMT -5
Uh huh. And you're basing that on what? Specifically I mean. Martian Manhunter is one of the most wise and far-thinking characters in the DC Universe. So if by "bitch" you mean "a guy who is unlikely to use punching as his first, last, and only option in a fight" then yes. Batman is a bitch. His entire motivation for being a (supposed) hero is that his parents were killed and he can't accept that he can't control everything around him, so he covers his pathetic infantile god complex with bat-themed gimmicks and runs around punching bad guys in the face. Batman is a narcissistic, self-absorbed lunatic stuck at an emotional age of 14, unfortunately gifted with enough intelligence to make his otherwise laughably frail psychology really dangerous. Martian Manhunter is someone who experienced a much more far reaching tragedy; the extinction of his entire race, and yet handles it with a far greater sense of acceptance and calm. He also rivals Superman in sheer physical power, but rarely feels the need to use it because he's clever enough to find other ways. His intellect is clearly far greater than that of the Batman, and it's not warped by distrust. So, yeah, sure, I guess he's a "bitch" if, you know, you hate well-rounded, intelligent, emotionally stable characters. I hate that $#@! too. But that's not what I mean. What I mean is he seemed like the weakness member in the League but from what I'm hearing tonight he is actually one of the best if not the best. Like Rush said he was used as a jobber in the toon( which is my only knowledge of the character) ... except that he wasn't. I have no idea what cartoon you guys watched, but MM was a bad mother$#@!er on the old JLA and JLU cartoons, and is either absent or pretty freakin' scary in most of the movies they've ever made as well.
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Post by Serboy on Jul 13, 2014 1:52:48 GMT -5
Just wear him out with a flamethrower, then BAM! He's got pyrophobia.
Cross that, he's immune to mundane fire? So a magical fireball.
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Post by setokaiba on Jul 13, 2014 1:54:00 GMT -5
Before you go on a rant(which I know you're ready to do) I said he was in the cartoon and movies. Every time he would fight he would was usually the first one to be knock out and in some cases by a single attack. I have no knowledge of the character beyond what I saw in the cartoons. *okay go ahead and rant* I only know Martian Manhunter from the Justice League cartoons, and I love him. He was pretty damn badass to me. He was interesting but every time there was a fight he would get his ass kicked. I was really interested in seeing the history of Mars but him barely being around and when he was was usually taking a beating killed it for me. Then I got more into the Hawkgirl stuff(which has nothing to do with comics lol)
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Post by Serboy on Jul 13, 2014 1:55:00 GMT -5
I only know Martian Manhunter from the Justice League cartoons, and I love him. He was pretty damn badass to me. He was interesting but every time there was a fight he would get his ass kicked. I was really interested in seeing the history of Mars but him barely being around and when he was was usually taking a beating killed it for me. Then I got more into the Hawkgirl stuff(which has nothing to do with comics lol) Same here, except for the Hawkgirl stuff. But that was then, this is now...
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Post by setokaiba on Jul 13, 2014 1:56:59 GMT -5
Just wear him out with a flamethrower, then BAM! He's got pyrophobia. To be fair he would still likely fuck any of us up even with a flamethrower.
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Post by Serboy on Jul 13, 2014 1:57:16 GMT -5
But that's not what I mean. What I mean is he seemed like the weakness member in the League but from what I'm hearing tonight he is actually one of the best if not the best. Like Rush said he was used as a jobber in the toon( which is my only knowledge of the character) ... except that he wasn't. I have no idea what cartoon you guys watched, but MM was a bad mother$#@!er on the old JLA and JLU cartoons, and is either absent or pretty freakin' scary in most of the movies they've ever made as well. Oh, really now? I know what I'm watching later on...
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Post by Serboy on Jul 13, 2014 1:58:56 GMT -5
Just wear him out with a flamethrower, then BAM! He's got pyrophobia. To be fair he would still likely fuck any of us up even with a flamethrower. True. I mean, he could just become invisible, runs circles around us, and knock us out with one punch in less than 20 seconds.
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Post by setokaiba on Jul 13, 2014 1:59:27 GMT -5
To be fair he would still likely fuck any of us up even with a flamethrower. True. I mean, he could just become invisible, runs circles around us, and knock us out with one punch in less than 20 seconds. Put a ring of fire around yourself.
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Post by Serboy on Jul 13, 2014 2:01:25 GMT -5
True. I mean, he could just become invisible, runs circles around us, and knock us out with one punch in less than 20 seconds. Put a ring of fire around yourself. Perfect. Except I would also need a firefighting suit, because I would be dead on arrival by the time Martian Manhunter comes around without one.
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