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Post by wildknight on Jul 17, 2014 15:36:42 GMT -5
... doesn't Johnny Cage also have an "aura"? And whatsisface, Liu Kang's ancestor, doesn't his hat have an aura? Not the aura balls they shoot their enemies with. I'm talking about the moves, where he high knees his enemies, and is covered in green aura. Or when he charges his enemies with his shoulder. ... I'm pretty sure that when Johnny does the shadow kick, he's followed around by an aura...
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Post by WSS? on Jul 17, 2014 15:37:35 GMT -5
You guys are trying to put logic into fictional magic. Nobody is doing that in any way. Talking to Ati.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jul 17, 2014 15:38:01 GMT -5
You know the moves when he's covered in green aura? Those. I believe that he uses telekinesis, because Ermac's opponents are covered in similar aura when hit with Ermac's telekinetic powers. (and by hit, i mean lifted or pushed) ... doesn't Johnny Cage also have an "aura"? And whatsisface, Liu Kang's ancestor, doesn't his hat have an aura? Pretty much every person in that game has an "aura" or blur with their moves. Yes, including Johnny Cage and Kung Lao, and even Liu Kang in some games when he does the bicycle kick for example. We should've stopped once he compared Shao Kahn to Justin Beiber. There's a parallel universe JB is the best singer, who ever lived... ..going by that theory, Shao Kahn could be like him. Again, you're comparing Shao Kahn and Justin Beiber for absolutely no reason at all. When Shao Kahn begins to fly, I'll admit that he uses telekinesis on himself. Until then, you're dead wrong and should accept it, ati. Since when is telekinesis only lifting and no pushing? If you can give me a source, saying that telekinesis is only lifting, you can take this post as admitting that i'm wrong. Nobody said it was. We've simply said that it's not telekinesis period. Nobody except you has said anything about lifting or pushing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 15:38:37 GMT -5
Not the aura balls they shoot their enemies with. I'm talking about the moves, where he high knees his enemies, and is covered in green aura. Or when he charges his enemies with his shoulder. ... I'm pretty sure that when Johnny does the shadow kick, he's followed around by an aura... Oh yeah.. he is. I thought you were talking about the green balls he's throwing guys with. And thinking about this again, no one knows if everyone uses magic in the MK universe... or scrap that. Everyone uses magic in the MK universe.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 15:40:17 GMT -5
... doesn't Johnny Cage also have an "aura"? And whatsisface, Liu Kang's ancestor, doesn't his hat have an aura? Pretty much every person in that game has an "aura" or blur with their moves. Yes, including Johnny Cage and Kung Lao, and even Liu Kang in some games when he does the bicycle kick for example. There's a parallel universe JB is the best singer, who ever lived... ..going by that theory, Shao Kahn could be like him. Again, you're comparing Shao Kahn and Justin Beiber for absolutely no reason at all. Since when is telekinesis only lifting and no pushing? If you can give me a source, saying that telekinesis is only lifting, you can take this post as admitting that i'm wrong. Nobody said it was. We've simply said that it's not telekinesis period. Nobody except you has said anything about lifting or pushing. ... Again, that bio says nothing. It's like me saying that i live in a country. You don't know what country from only that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 15:40:54 GMT -5
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Post by wildknight on Jul 17, 2014 15:41:25 GMT -5
... I'm pretty sure that when Johnny does the shadow kick, he's followed around by an aura... Oh yeah.. he is. I thought you were talking about the green balls he's throwing guys with. And thinking about this again, no one knows if everyone uses magic in the MK universe... or scrap that. Everyone uses magic in the MK universe. "Magic' in the broad sense that they do things humans can't do normally, yes. "Magic" in the specific sense, no. There are certain characters in the MK universe who are described as having "magic" or "sorcery." Others are described as using "chi" or just "being a ninja."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 15:43:17 GMT -5
Oh yeah.. he is. I thought you were talking about the green balls he's throwing guys with. And thinking about this again, no one knows if everyone uses magic in the MK universe... or scrap that. Everyone uses magic in the MK universe. "Magic' in the broad sense that they do things humans can't do normally, yes. "Magic" in the specific sense, no. There are certain characters in the MK universe who are described as having "magic" or "sorcery." Others are described as using "chi" or just "being a ninja." But every one of them uses some kind of magic. No one can told me that Scorpion has a flaming skull because he was in the Lin Kue. (Honestly, i forgot who was in what clan.)
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Post by wildknight on Jul 17, 2014 15:43:42 GMT -5
Pretty much every person in that game has an "aura" or blur with their moves. Yes, including Johnny Cage and Kung Lao, and even Liu Kang in some games when he does the bicycle kick for example. Again, you're comparing Shao Kahn and Justin Beiber for absolutely no reason at all. Nobody said it was. We've simply said that it's not telekinesis period. Nobody except you has said anything about lifting or pushing. ... Again, that bio says nothing. It's like me saying that i live in a country. You don't know what country from only that. Actually, ati, his bio DOESN'T say anything about telekinesis in any way, which to an intelligent person, would squash the argument right there. The core of your argument is "it doesn't say that he doesn't use telekinesis, so he could be using telekinesis." That doesn't pass the smell test buddy, sorry. Even if it did, it DOES describe the source of his powers in other ways. "Superhuman strength", "superhuman speed." Why would they say "superhuman strength" if they meant "telekinesis"? Do you even think about this stuff before you type it?
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Post by wildknight on Jul 17, 2014 15:44:58 GMT -5
"Magic' in the broad sense that they do things humans can't do normally, yes. "Magic" in the specific sense, no. There are certain characters in the MK universe who are described as having "magic" or "sorcery." Others are described as using "chi" or just "being a ninja." But every one of them uses some kind of magic. No one can told me that Scorpion has a flaming skull because he was in the Lin Kue. (Honestly, i forgot who was in what clan.) The problem is that nobody can tell you anything. Superman flies and can benchpress a pyramid. Is that automatically "magic" just because it's something normal humans can't do? Of course not. "Magic" is whatever the specific setting describes it to be, and there can certainly be other sources of power aplenty.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jul 17, 2014 15:45:26 GMT -5
Oh yeah.. he is. I thought you were talking about the green balls he's throwing guys with. And thinking about this again, no one knows if everyone uses magic in the MK universe... or scrap that. Everyone uses magic in the MK universe. "Magic' in the broad sense that they do things humans can't do normally, yes. "Magic" in the specific sense, no. There are certain characters in the MK universe who are described as having "magic" or "sorcery." Others are described as using "chi" or just "being a ninja." And then there's Kurtis Stryker. Also, most of the ninjas use sorcery. For example, in MK vs. DCU, Scorpion can actually hurt Superman due to the fact he uses sorcery.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jul 17, 2014 15:46:57 GMT -5
"Magic' in the broad sense that they do things humans can't do normally, yes. "Magic" in the specific sense, no. There are certain characters in the MK universe who are described as having "magic" or "sorcery." Others are described as using "chi" or just "being a ninja." But every one of them uses some kind of magic. No one can told me that Scorpion has a flaming skull because he was in the Lin Kue. (Honestly, i forgot who was in what clan.) Scorpion's part of the Shirai Ryu. Sub-Zero's part of the Lin Kuei. Also, Scorpion's a demon, that's why he has a flaming skull, lol. Also why his home region is the Netherrealm.
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Post by wildknight on Jul 17, 2014 15:47:48 GMT -5
"Magic' in the broad sense that they do things humans can't do normally, yes. "Magic" in the specific sense, no. There are certain characters in the MK universe who are described as having "magic" or "sorcery." Others are described as using "chi" or just "being a ninja." And then there's Kurtis Stryker. Also, most of the ninjas use sorcery. For example, in MK vs. DCU, Scorpion can actually hurt Superman due to the fact he uses sorcery. 1) MK vs. DCU is not canon for either setting 2) EVERYONE can hurt Superman in that idiotic game, and I believe the explanation was that the merging of worlds made him less powerful, or some such garbage
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 15:47:52 GMT -5
... Again, that bio says nothing. It's like me saying that i live in a country. You don't know what country from only that. Actually, ati, his bio DOESN'T say anything about telekinesis in any way, which to an intelligent person, would squash the argument right there. The core of your argument is "it doesn't say that he doesn't use telekinesis, so he could be using telekinesis." That doesn't pass the smell test buddy, sorry. Even if it did, it DOES describe the source of his powers in other ways. "Superhuman strength", "superhuman speed." Why would they say "superhuman strength" if they meant "telekinesis"? Do you even think about this stuff before you type it? My part of the argument is based on the visuals. I've never seen anyone having green aura following them when they have superhuman strength/speed. It doesn't say anything about telekinesis, but it doesn't say anything about the origins of his aura. ..That's unless, that his power comes from a source like the green lantern's big lamp, or what they called it...
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Post by wildknight on Jul 17, 2014 15:49:39 GMT -5
Actually, ati, his bio DOESN'T say anything about telekinesis in any way, which to an intelligent person, would squash the argument right there. The core of your argument is "it doesn't say that he doesn't use telekinesis, so he could be using telekinesis." That doesn't pass the smell test buddy, sorry. Even if it did, it DOES describe the source of his powers in other ways. "Superhuman strength", "superhuman speed." Why would they say "superhuman strength" if they meant "telekinesis"? Do you even think about this stuff before you type it? My part of the argument is based on the visuals. I've never seen anyone having green aura following them when they have superhuman strength/speed. It doesn't say anything about telekinesis, but it doesn't say anything about the origins of his aura. ..That's unless, that his power comes from a source like the green lantern's big lamp, or what they called it... ... so your defense for saying it's telekinesis is "there is an aura." *shakes head* I'm done. This is like trying to explain contemporary particle physics to a chimpanzee.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jul 17, 2014 15:49:53 GMT -5
And then there's Kurtis Stryker. Also, most of the ninjas use sorcery. For example, in MK vs. DCU, Scorpion can actually hurt Superman due to the fact he uses sorcery. 1) MK vs. DCU is not canon for either setting 2) EVERYONE can hurt Superman in that idiotic game, and I believe the explanation was that the merging of worlds made him less powerful, or some such garbage MK vs. DCU followed the stories of every character on the MK side. They use sorcery in other games too, I just thought you'd connect with the Superman reference more. Also, not everyone can at first. The story behind the game is that eventually the power fluctuates, however at first he's of normal strength. I agree though, the story was garbage.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 15:50:34 GMT -5
But every one of them uses some kind of magic. No one can told me that Scorpion has a flaming skull because he was in the Lin Kue. (Honestly, i forgot who was in what clan.) Scorpion's part of the Shirai Ryu. Sub-Zero's part of the Lin Kuei. Also, Scorpion's a demon, that's why he has a flaming skull, lol. Also why his home region is the Netherrealm. I know that he's basically a demon ninja, bur if someone would say that Scorpion only has the flaming skull because h's a ninja? It just doesn't sound right. And i brought it up, because we can't describe everything by magic and sorcery. (So basically, i counter argued myself.)
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jul 17, 2014 15:51:29 GMT -5
Actually, ati, his bio DOESN'T say anything about telekinesis in any way, which to an intelligent person, would squash the argument right there. The core of your argument is "it doesn't say that he doesn't use telekinesis, so he could be using telekinesis." That doesn't pass the smell test buddy, sorry. Even if it did, it DOES describe the source of his powers in other ways. "Superhuman strength", "superhuman speed." Why would they say "superhuman strength" if they meant "telekinesis"? Do you even think about this stuff before you type it? My part of the argument is based on the visuals. I've never seen anyone having green aura following them when they have superhuman strength/speed. It doesn't say anything about telekinesis, but it doesn't say anything about the origins of his aura. ..That's unless, that his power comes from a source like the green lantern's big lamp, or what they called it... Kabal has an aura and his power is superspeed. Just throwing that out there.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jul 17, 2014 15:52:58 GMT -5
Scorpion's part of the Shirai Ryu. Sub-Zero's part of the Lin Kuei. Also, Scorpion's a demon, that's why he has a flaming skull, lol. Also why his home region is the Netherrealm. I know that he's basically a demon ninja, bur if someone would say that Scorpion only has the flaming skull because h's a ninja? It just doesn't sound right. And i brought it up, because we can't describe everything by magic and sorcery. (So basically, i counter argued myself.) Ummmm, the problem is, the what if doesn't exist here. He's a demon therefore he is not human. It's not "if somebody brought up that argument" because they'd be wrong by bringing up the argument to begin with.
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Post by WSS? on Jul 17, 2014 15:53:06 GMT -5
You know, I'm really thinking Ati shouldn't play Mortal Kombat.
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