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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 22:39:23 GMT -5
Nope. Ambrose vs Rollins is better Nation of Domination 2.0 is better Stephanie is better Reigns is better Sheamus is better Beacuse of Ambrose. Rollins doesn't cut it for me. They JUST started the damn stable, Raven. It might bomb within a couple of weeks for all you know. Put R-Truth in it, then it has more entertainment value. She was entertaining since she first debuted in like, 1999? She was always entertaining. I'm going for newer stuff. He could go places, but saying "bitch" and spamming the same moves won't help him out. Not really. I do like Sheamus though. And Tyler Breeze does the veign gimmick 100X better than Miz could ever dream of |
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Post by Serboy on Jul 21, 2014 22:39:43 GMT -5
More entertaining than 80% of the crap WWE shows nowadays. Miz pleading with the ref about protecting his face during a match is entertaining? Really? I mean, at most it's a nice nuanced detail to further express his egotistical gimmick but thoroughly entertaining? Nah. *Honk* I was being overcritical. It's the most entertainment I've ever seen from the guy in recent times, Clown. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 22:39:47 GMT -5
Cody is the example. He evolved as a character. Miz is going nowhere with this. Can't wait for Sheamus to destroy him. it's only been a month. Still to fucking long |
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Post by stewie34732 on Jul 21, 2014 22:40:14 GMT -5
ok so whats your problem with lesnar?? 1. He's a terrible wrestler 2. He isn't safe to work with. 3. He doesn't give a rat's a** about the business. 4. No mic skills. Should I go on? & raven prolly will say the same about the miz....... u see how subjective pro wrestling can be my friend ?? edit: not the same things but , he has reasons of disliking the miz like u have with lesnar |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 22:40:35 GMT -5
Miz pleading with the ref about protecting his face during a match is entertaining? Really? I mean, at most it's a nice nuanced detail to further express his egotistical gimmick but thoroughly entertaining? Nah. *Honk* I was being overcritical. It's the most entertainment I've ever seen from the guy in recent times, Clown. Hollywood Miz= poor man's Tyler Breeze |
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Post by RandomGB on Jul 21, 2014 22:40:44 GMT -5
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Post by Serboy on Jul 21, 2014 22:40:54 GMT -5
Cody had a "Dashing" gimmick. He didn't go very far. Cody had a grotesque gimmick. Again, it failed. How do you Cody could pull it off, anyway? The Miz might be better at it than Cody would ever be. Cody was 10x better than Miz. You are blind. Miz has been given chance after chance and has blown it. No one cares. So did Cody. Remember when he was Intercontiental Champion and feuded with Big Show? Yeah, me neither. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 22:41:29 GMT -5
1. He's a terrible wrestler 2. He isn't safe to work with. 3. He doesn't give a rat's a** about the business. 4. No mic skills. Should I go on? & raven prolly will say the same about the miz....... u see how subjective pro wrestling can be my friend ?? edit: not the same things but , he has reasons of disliking the miz like u have with lesnar No Miz is 100000X the wrestler and entertainer Lesnar is. Sorry Stew |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 22:42:11 GMT -5
Cody was 10x better than Miz. You are blind. Miz has been given chance after chance and has blown it. No one cares. So did Cody. Remember when he was Intercontiental Champion and feuded with Big Show? Yeah, me neither. You just referenced it. So clearly you remember :rolleyes: |
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Post by Serboy on Jul 21, 2014 22:42:16 GMT -5
Beacuse of Ambrose. Rollins doesn't cut it for me. They JUST started the damn stable, Raven. It might bomb within a couple of weeks for all you know. Put R-Truth in it, then it has more entertainment value. She was entertaining since she first debuted in like, 1999? She was always entertaining. I'm going for newer stuff. He could go places, but saying "bitch" and spamming the same moves won't help him out. Not really. I do like Sheamus though. And Tyler Breeze does the veign gimmick 100X better than Miz could ever dream of True. But, I'm talking about the main roster of WWE, not NXT. NXT is doing pretty good, but WWE's a different monster. |
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Post by Serboy on Jul 21, 2014 22:43:17 GMT -5
So did Cody. Remember when he was Intercontiental Champion and feuded with Big Show? Yeah, me neither. You just referenced it. So clearly you remember :rolleyes: It was a joke, smart ass. :rolleyes: Others might not remember that fact. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 22:43:53 GMT -5
And Tyler Breeze does the veign gimmick 100X better than Miz could ever dream of True. But, I'm talking about the main roster of WWE, not NXT. NXT is doing pretty good, but WWE's a different monster. Eh no. A gimmick is a gimmick. Breeze could get more over with his veigh gimmick and how he carries himself than Miz is now. Breeze could not wrestle and still be more entertaining than Miz. He could bring that same music video to Raw and blow Miz out of the water. |
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Post by Serboy on Jul 21, 2014 22:45:55 GMT -5
True. But, I'm talking about the main roster of WWE, not NXT. NXT is doing pretty good, but WWE's a different monster. Eh no. A gimmick is a gimmick. Breeze could get more over with his veigh gimmick and how he carries himself than Miz is now. Breeze could not wrestle and still be more entertaining than Miz. He could bring that same music video to Raw and blow Miz out of the water. "A gimmick is a gimmick"? Really? What does that have to do with anything I just said? Emma did that dancing thing on NXT, she was over. When she moved up to WWE, the little thief bombed almost instantly. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 22:46:29 GMT -5
You just referenced it. So clearly you remember :rolleyes: It was a joke, smart ass. :rolleyes: Others might not remember that fact. Cody had a crap Smackdown roster. And had very good matches with Orton. Miz has a whole roster to choose from. If you want to talk competition then Miz has the better field. But Miz isn't near the worker or entertainer that Cody was with a vein gimmick |
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Post by stewie34732 on Jul 21, 2014 22:47:32 GMT -5
& raven prolly will say the same about the miz....... u see how subjective pro wrestling can be my friend ?? edit: not the same things but , he has reasons of disliking the miz like u have with lesnar No Miz is 100000X the wrestler and entertainer Lesnar is. Sorry Stew lol not the point , the point was wrestling is subjective! SUBJECTIVE  & no lesnar is a far better wrestler than miz |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 22:49:12 GMT -5
Eh no. A gimmick is a gimmick. Breeze could get more over with his veigh gimmick and how he carries himself than Miz is now. Breeze could not wrestle and still be more entertaining than Miz. He could bring that same music video to Raw and blow Miz out of the water. "A gimmick is a gimmick"? Really? What does that have to do with anything I just said? Emma did that dancing thing on NXT, she was over. When she moved up to WWE, the little thief bombed almost instantly. And what dancing gimmick has gotten over from a diva? Miz and Breeze have basically the same damn gimmick. And I can switch the two and Miz still wouldn't get over because he fucking sucks with that gimmick. Breeze is the gimmick. The little things you wet your panties over Breeze does every time he steps on the ramp or is on the microphone. Look up a Miz promo and tell me how it has changed. He is the same damn guy with a fucking movie intro to his titantron. |
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 21, 2014 22:50:33 GMT -5
No Miz is 100000X the wrestler and entertainer Lesnar is. Sorry Stew lol not the point , the point was wrestling is subjective! SUBJECTIVE & no lesnar is a far better wrestler than miz Being good at wrestling isn't subjective. You can say Lesanr is good and list the reasons as to why you like him all you want, but that still doesn't change the fact that he is overall a terrible performer. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 22:50:34 GMT -5
No Miz is 100000X the wrestler and entertainer Lesnar is. Sorry Stew lol not the point , the point was wrestling is subjective! SUBJECTIVE & no lesnar is a far better wrestler than miz I HATE MIZ but I would sit through his matches rather than Lesnar's. The only Lesnar match I wanted to see since he came back was to cripple Taker and get his old ass out of the ring. |
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Post by Serboy on Jul 21, 2014 22:51:22 GMT -5
It was a joke, smart ass. :rolleyes: Others might not remember that fact. Cody had a crap Smackdown roster. And had very good matches with Orton. Miz has a whole roster to choose from. If you want to talk competition then Miz has the better field. But Miz isn't near the worker or entertainer that Cody was with a vein gimmick You're blaming Cody's inability to go over on a faulty roster... ok then. Miz has the entire roster to deal with in order to find a niche in the company. Cody only had SmackDown, and he failed. |
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 21, 2014 22:52:24 GMT -5
"A gimmick is a gimmick"? Really? What does that have to do with anything I just said? Emma did that dancing thing on NXT, she was over. When she moved up to WWE, the little thief bombed almost instantly. And what dancing gimmick has gotten over from a diva? Miz and Breeze have basically the same damn gimmick. And I can switch the two and Miz still wouldn't get over because he fucking sucks with that gimmick. Breeze is the gimmick. The little things you wet your panties over Breeze does every time he steps on the ramp or is on the microphone. Look up a Miz promo and tell me how it has changed. He is the same damn guy with a fucking movie intro to his titantron. I'm completely sure that if Miz's new gimmick started in NXT, the crowd there would be all over him. |
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