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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 21, 2014 22:52:46 GMT -5
At first I thought Raven was just trolling... but maybe he actually believes this crap lol
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 22:53:00 GMT -5
Cody had a crap Smackdown roster. And had very good matches with Orton. Miz has a whole roster to choose from. If you want to talk competition then Miz has the better field. But Miz isn't near the worker or entertainer that Cody was with a vein gimmick You're blaming Cody's inability to go over on a faulty roster... ok then. Miz has the entire roster to deal with in order to find a niche in the company. Cody only had SmackDown, and he failed. You are talking about feuds. While I'm talking about gimmick execution. Those are two different things. The gimmick didn't fail. You can have a great gimmick and without the right foil you will fail. Batman isn't Batman if he has ass villians. |
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Post by stewie34732 on Jul 21, 2014 22:53:33 GMT -5
lol not the point , the point was wrestling is subjective! SUBJECTIVE  & no lesnar is a far better wrestler than miz I HATE MIZ but I would sit through his matches rather than Lesnar's. The only Lesnar match I wanted to see since he came back was to cripple Taker and get his old ass out of the ring. ur just saying that just to be saying it. but in your heart , you know you wana see the beast back in the ring tearing shit up |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 22:53:43 GMT -5
And what dancing gimmick has gotten over from a diva? Miz and Breeze have basically the same damn gimmick. And I can switch the two and Miz still wouldn't get over because he fucking sucks with that gimmick. Breeze is the gimmick. The little things you wet your panties over Breeze does every time he steps on the ramp or is on the microphone. Look up a Miz promo and tell me how it has changed. He is the same damn guy with a fucking movie intro to his titantron. I'm completely sure that if Miz's new gimmick started in NXT, the crowd there would be all over him. This cornball? Nope. He would be the Mojo Rawley of NXT. |
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Post by stewie34732 on Jul 21, 2014 22:54:16 GMT -5
lol not the point , the point was wrestling is subjective! SUBJECTIVE & no lesnar is a far better wrestler than miz Being good at wrestling isn't subjective. You can say Lesanr is good and list the reasons as to why you like him all you want, but that still doesn't change the fact that he is overall a terrible performer. yea . hes a good wrestler , hes just too aggressive with his moves |
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Post by Serboy on Jul 21, 2014 22:55:04 GMT -5
"A gimmick is a gimmick"? Really? What does that have to do with anything I just said? Emma did that dancing thing on NXT, she was over. When she moved up to WWE, the little thief bombed almost instantly. And what dancing gimmick has gotten over from a diva? Miz and Breeze have basically the same damn gimmick. And I can switch the two and Miz still wouldn't get over because he fucking sucks with that gimmick. Breeze is the gimmick. The little things you wet your panties over Breeze does every time he steps on the ramp or is on the microphone. Look up a Miz promo and tell me how it has changed. He is the same damn guy with a fucking movie intro to his titantron. The one on NXT I just mentioned. *facepalm* She was over in NXT. Not the same case now. Miz has a Hollywood-type gimmick. Breeze has something more like Cody's "Dashing" gimmick. Except it's even better. He hasn't been saying, "I'm the Miz, and I'm awesome!" lately. |
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 21, 2014 22:55:03 GMT -5
I'm completely sure that if Miz's new gimmick started in NXT, the crowd there would be all over him. This cornball? Nope. He would be the Mojo Rawley of NXT. Raven, you know the NXT crowd will react to almost anything. |
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 21, 2014 22:55:55 GMT -5
Being good at wrestling isn't subjective. You can say Lesanr is good and list the reasons as to why you like him all you want, but that still doesn't change the fact that he is overall a terrible performer. yea . hes a good wrestler , hes just too aggressive with his moves No, he isn't. The fact that he is too aggressive makes it worse. |
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Post by Serboy on Jul 21, 2014 22:57:53 GMT -5
You're blaming Cody's inability to go over on a faulty roster... ok then. Miz has the entire roster to deal with in order to find a niche in the company. Cody only had SmackDown, and he failed. You are talking about feuds. While I'm talking about gimmick execution. Those are two different things. The gimmick didn't fail. You can have a great gimmick and without the right foil you will fail. Batman isn't Batman if he has ass villians. So was I. I didn't mention a single feud. You did. Nice try, Raven. Did Cody get super over with the gimmick? Nope. He failed. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 22:59:10 GMT -5
And what dancing gimmick has gotten over from a diva? Miz and Breeze have basically the same damn gimmick. And I can switch the two and Miz still wouldn't get over because he fucking sucks with that gimmick. Breeze is the gimmick. The little things you wet your panties over Breeze does every time he steps on the ramp or is on the microphone. Look up a Miz promo and tell me how it has changed. He is the same damn guy with a fucking movie intro to his titantron. The one on NXT I just mentioned. *facepalm* She was over in NXT. Not the same case now. Miz has a Hollywood-type gimmick. Breeze has something more like Cody's "Dashing" gimmick. Except it's even better. He hasn't been saying, "I'm the Miz, and I'm awesome!" lately. Go watch NXT. She was over with time. She was a vein character that realized her faults with time. And again name me a DANCING FEMALE GIMMICK ON THE MAIN ROSTER THAT GOT OVER. You are raving about his attention to detail about his face. The only difference between his gimmick and Breeze's current gimmick is that he says Hollywood. Breeze claims to hang out with celebs all the time. Again show me a promo that has changed from the Miz. And I'm not talking about a fucking tagline. He is the same damn guy with Hollywood slapped in front of him. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 23:00:42 GMT -5
You are talking about feuds. While I'm talking about gimmick execution. Those are two different things. The gimmick didn't fail. You can have a great gimmick and without the right foil you will fail. Batman isn't Batman if he has ass villians. So was I. I didn't mention a single feud. You did. Nice try, Raven. Did Cody get super over with the gimmick? Nope. He failed. You just mentioned his feud with Big Show. Don't try it Serboy Cody was more over than Miz. How you all forget how were slurping Cody when he was dashing and undashing |
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Post by stewie34732 on Jul 21, 2014 23:01:27 GMT -5
yea . hes a good wrestler , hes just too aggressive with his moves No, he isn't. The fact that he is too aggressive makes it worse. & ya he is & no it doesnt , he just need to calm & slow his ass down |
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 21, 2014 23:05:02 GMT -5
No, he isn't. The fact that he is too aggressive makes it worse. & ya he is & no it doesnt , he just need to calm & slow his ass down Do you just do this to piss people off? If you do somehow believe what you are saying, show me proof of Lesnar being a good wrestler. |
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Post by Serboy on Jul 21, 2014 23:06:17 GMT -5
The one on NXT I just mentioned. *facepalm* She was over in NXT. Not the same case now. Miz has a Hollywood-type gimmick. Breeze has something more like Cody's "Dashing" gimmick. Except it's even better. He hasn't been saying, "I'm the Miz, and I'm awesome!" lately. Go watch NXT. She was over with time. She was a vein character that realized her faults with time. And again name me a DANCING FEMALE GIMMICK ON THE MAIN ROSTER THAT GOT OVER. You are raving about his attention to detail about his face. The only difference between his gimmick and Breeze's current gimmick is that he says Hollywood. Breeze claims to hang out with celebs all the time. Again show me a promo that has changed from the Miz. And I'm not talking about a fucking tagline. He is the same damn guy with Hollywood slapped in front of him. You just agreed with me on the fact she was over on NXT, thank you. A dancing gimmick with females, DON'T go over, Raven. Don't know why you want me to do the impossible just to make yourself look smart. Breeze also had a music video, says you're gross to people and he's pulls it off perfectly. Again, the gimmicks are more different than you think. Miz is wearing a suit now. He's spouting Hollywood garbage with movies, and he claimed he stayed with the business even though he could've stayed at Hollywood. Those are differences, Raven. |
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Post by iodill8 on Jul 21, 2014 23:06:31 GMT -5
The one on NXT I just mentioned. *facepalm* She was over in NXT. Not the same case now. Miz has a Hollywood-type gimmick. Breeze has something more like Cody's "Dashing" gimmick. Except it's even better. He hasn't been saying, "I'm the Miz, and I'm awesome!" lately. Go watch NXT. She was over with time. She was a vein character that realized her faults with time. And again name me a DANCING FEMALE GIMMICK ON THE MAIN ROSTER THAT GOT OVER. You are raving about his attention to detail about his face. The only difference between his gimmick and Breeze's current gimmick is that he says Hollywood. Breeze claims to hang out with celebs all the time. Again show me a promo that has changed from the Miz. And I'm not talking about a fucking tagline. He is the same damn guy with Hollywood slapped in front of him. Dude, what the fuck is your problem with The Miz, man?? He doesn't suck. He's definetly not crappy in the ring, he's great on the mic and he has charisma. Cody Rhodes is better in-ring (IMO), but he lacks charisma and he doesn't really connect with the fans. Which is why he's stuck with bullshit gimmicks like Stardust. |
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Post by stewie34732 on Jul 21, 2014 23:09:09 GMT -5
& ya he is & no it doesnt , he just need to calm & slow his ass down Do you just do this to piss people off? If you do somehow believe what you are saying, show me proof of Lesnar being a good wrestler. trust me if i wanted to piss you off , i wouldve been did it , i dont troll around to piss people off........ & why wont you go youtube lesnar , im in a motocross /supercross 2015 review podcast right now , so if u want my answer , your goona have to wait.... |
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Post by Serboy on Jul 21, 2014 23:10:20 GMT -5
So was I. I didn't mention a single feud. You did. Nice try, Raven. Did Cody get super over with the gimmick? Nope. He failed. You just mentioned his feud with Big Show. Don't try it Serboy Cody was more over than Miz. How you all forget how were slurping Cody when he was dashing and undashing I'm talking about in relation to Cody not being over. Didn't Miz have a better position at WrestleMania 27 than Cody did? |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 23:11:21 GMT -5
Go watch NXT. She was over with time. She was a vein character that realized her faults with time. And again name me a DANCING FEMALE GIMMICK ON THE MAIN ROSTER THAT GOT OVER. You are raving about his attention to detail about his face. The only difference between his gimmick and Breeze's current gimmick is that he says Hollywood. Breeze claims to hang out with celebs all the time. Again show me a promo that has changed from the Miz. And I'm not talking about a fucking tagline. He is the same damn guy with Hollywood slapped in front of him. You just agreed with me on the fact she was over on NXT, thank you. A dancing gimmick with females, DON'T go over, Raven. Don't know why you want me to do the impossible just to make yourself look smart. Breeze also had a music video, says you're gross to people and he's pulls it off perfectly. Again, the gimmicks are more different than you think. Miz is wearing a suit now. He's spouting Hollywood garbage with movies, and he claimed he stayed with the business even though he could've stayed at Hollywood. Those are differences, Raven. Again did I say she was over the the MAIN roster? Nope. And again show me a woman with a dancing gimmick that ever got over. Breeze is doing the same things you are praising Miz for doing. Miz has always wore a fucking suit. He has always spouted his accomplishments outside of WWE. They just slapped a Hollywood in front of it and people are acting like it's brand new. IT'S THE SAME DAMN GUY. |
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 21, 2014 23:11:29 GMT -5
Do you just do this to piss people off? If you do somehow believe what you are saying, show me proof of Lesnar being a good wrestler. trust me if i wanted to piss you , i wouldve been did it , i dont troll around to piss people off........ & why wont you go youtube lesnar , im in a motocross /supercross 2015 review podcast right now , so if u want my answer , your goona have to wait.... I don't Youtube Lesnar because I know he sucks. Also, if it means that he may somehow be talented, I don't mind waiting a few dozen eternities. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Jul 21, 2014 23:12:14 GMT -5
Go watch NXT. She was over with time. She was a vein character that realized her faults with time. And again name me a DANCING FEMALE GIMMICK ON THE MAIN ROSTER THAT GOT OVER. You are raving about his attention to detail about his face. The only difference between his gimmick and Breeze's current gimmick is that he says Hollywood. Breeze claims to hang out with celebs all the time. Again show me a promo that has changed from the Miz. And I'm not talking about a fucking tagline. He is the same damn guy with Hollywood slapped in front of him. Dude, what the fuck is your problem with The Miz, man?? He doesn't suck. He's definetly not crappy in the ring, he's great on the mic and he has charisma. Cody Rhodes is better in-ring (IMO), but he lacks charisma and he doesn't really connect with the fans. Which is why he's stuck with bullshit gimmicks like Stardust. And Miz does..................he hasn't since winning MITB |
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