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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 4, 2013 19:35:57 GMT -5
You're rewriting the definition of a belief system to fit what you believe. Sorry, that's not how it works brother. Yes, because I clearly didn't just give you the EXACT definition that fit my EXACT belief.....That didn't happen or anything. The problem is you defined your belief, not the agnostic belief. |
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Post by setokaiba on Dec 4, 2013 19:36:55 GMT -5
Remember when this thread of about the Superman vs Batman movie?
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 4, 2013 19:37:32 GMT -5
Yes, because I clearly didn't just give you the EXACT definition that fit my EXACT belief.....That didn't happen or anything. The problem is you defined your belief, not the agnostic belief. 1. I'm agnostic Atheist, as previously mentioned. 2. I literally took the exact definition of agnostic. I thought you were smarter than this. You're acting pretty ignorantly right now, Soon. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 4, 2013 19:38:32 GMT -5
Remember when this thread of about the Superman vs Batman movie? I think this argument is a better topic than Batman vs Superman, lol. You're the mod though. If you feel like we're out of control, close it  I'm too lazy, nor do I care, lol. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 4, 2013 19:43:39 GMT -5
The problem is you defined your belief, not the agnostic belief. 1. I'm agnostic Atheist, as previously mentioned. 2. I literally took the exact definition of agnostic. I thought you were smarter than this. You're acting pretty ignorantly right now, Soon. Let me go ahead and get a bunch of fucking sources about what agnostics believe. "agnosticism is the view that humanity lacks the requisite knowledge or sufficient rational grounds to justify either belief: that there exists some deity, or that no deities exist." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism"Agnosticism Beliefs The existence or non-existence of a deity is ultimately unknowable. Agnostics neither accept nor reject the possibility that deities are indeed real and may play a part in human life. Knowledge is verified by human experience and the senses, not through belief or reasoning." www.faithology.com/agnosticism/overview?religion=agnosticism"An agnostic thinks it impossible to know the truth in matters such as God and the future life with which Christianity and other religions are concerned. Or, if not impossible, at least impossible at the present time." www.personal.kent.edu/~rmuhamma/Philosophy/RBwritings/agnostic.htm"agnostic: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god" www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agnostic |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 4, 2013 19:50:49 GMT -5
"agnosticism is the view that humanity lacks the requisite knowledge or sufficient rational grounds to justify either belief: that there exists some deity, or that no deities exist."
I said that I don't know until proven, therefore I'm lacking the knowledge and am unbiased until that point. I'm agnostic.
The existence or non-existence of a deity is ultimately unknowable.
I've pretty much said that word for word, I'm agnostic.
Agnostics neither accept nor reject the possibility that deities are indeed real and may play a part in human life.
I've said, once again, that I don't know therefore either way could be a possibility. I'm agnostic.
Knowledge is verified by human experience and the senses, not through belief or reasoning."
I once again, said that I don't know either way. I'm agnostic.
"An agnostic thinks it impossible to know the truth in matters such as God and the future life with which Christianity and other religions are concerned. Or, if not impossible, at least impossible at the present time."
I've never said anything about whether its possible to know or impossible to know. I'm agnostic.
agnostic: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
Once again, I never claimed to know either way. I'm agnostic.
Your point is?
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 4, 2013 19:55:23 GMT -5
You claimed that there is no god unless you are proven otherwise. An agnostic believes they cannot know whether or not there is a god.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 4, 2013 20:06:35 GMT -5
You claimed that there is no god unless you are proven otherwise. An agnostic believes they cannot know whether or not there is a god. No, I said "I believe." Agnosticism is based on knowledge, and I never said there was or wasn't a god. I never said I knew either way. I said I believe. Care to question me again? Everything you've said has been proven incorrect so far. |
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Post by Rush on Dec 4, 2013 20:06:50 GMT -5
For the record, I have no problem with the casting of Batfleck either. In fact, I think he'll do well with the role. My only issue (and I admit, it's very minor) is that supposedly Batman is supposed to be "older and more experienced' than Superman... and Affleck is baby-faced and certainly doesn't look significantly older than Cavill. That's why I wanted Jeffrey Dean Morgan edit: Idras Elba as John stewert garret hedlund as wally west ryan gosling as wally west or Barry Allen chris pine as Barry Allen me as wally west |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 4, 2013 20:28:57 GMT -5
Idras Elba as John stewert garret hedlund as wally west ryan gosling as wally west or Barry Allen chris pine as Barry Allen me as wally west No No HECK NO No Maybe |
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Post by Rush on Dec 4, 2013 20:32:11 GMT -5
Idras Elba as John stewert garret hedlund as wally west ryan gosling as wally west or Barry Allen chris pine as Barry Allen me as wally west No No HECK NO No Maybe Elba would be a great anything. who are your cast pics? |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 4, 2013 20:35:23 GMT -5
Elba is way too old and way too stiff to play John Stewart. Stewart is a very easygoing dude... and I would NEVER pick John Stewart as my choice for GL in a Justice League movie anyway. I'd choose G'nort first. If for some reason I HAD to cast someone as Stewart, I'd pick someone with a sense of humor but not an outrageous loudmouth.
... actually now that I think about it, I'd approve of Pine as West. That's not a bad choice.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 4, 2013 20:36:56 GMT -5
I think Ryan Reynolds should play Hal Jordan....
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Post by wildknight on Dec 4, 2013 20:38:02 GMT -5
I think Ryan Reynolds should play Hal Jordan.... I don't like cocky asshole Jordan. I want "good soldier" Jordan back. So no, no Ryan Reynolds. |
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Post by Rush on Dec 4, 2013 20:39:15 GMT -5
Elba is way too old and way too stiff to play John Stewart. Stewart is a very easygoing dude... and I would NEVER pick John Stewart as my choice for GL in a Justice League movie anyway. I'd choose G'nort first. If for some reason I HAD to cast someone as Stewart, I'd pick someone with a sense of humor but not an outrageous loudmouth. ... actually now that I think about it, I'd approve of Pine as West. That's not a bad choice. I preferred the marine drill instructor from the cartoon. To each his own |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 4, 2013 20:41:06 GMT -5
I preferred the marine drill instructor from the cartoon. To each his own Yes, because nothing says "great character" like an utterly cliched persona. |
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Post by TomJohns on Dec 5, 2013 11:11:10 GMT -5
An actor with such limited credentials? Tons of actors/actresses have been in similar situations and have stole the show in their respective movies... prime examples of this is, Will Smith, A man who'd only had 5 roles before staring in Independence Day. The guy who plays Thor was only in 4 Moives before being in Thor, & all his TV Roles except one had been 1-Off appearances. Al Pacino, Had, had 7 roles before The Godfather. Hell Boyz In The Hood, Was Ice Cube's first acting job. You rule this chick out to quick As for "Hipster Attitude", The fact that i dislike Superman isn't a hipster attitude at all... I just dislike Superman, Even as a child i hated Superman. there's nothing hipster about it. I also care about the case of the new Superman movie because it's a joint Superman and Batman movie, And I'm a Batman fan Will Smith was already a star before Independance day, being the major role in a world famous sitcom for 6 years AND a leading role in Bad Boys. Chris Hemsworth was one of the stars of an Australian Soap for like 4 years before he got cast in Star Trek. They are possibly two of the worst examples you could have used. I was basing it on how many roles the person had, had. Not how much of a star they were. |
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Post by monkeywool on Dec 5, 2013 12:04:43 GMT -5
Will Smith was already a star before Independance day, being the major role in a world famous sitcom for 6 years AND a leading role in Bad Boys. Chris Hemsworth was one of the stars of an Australian Soap for like 4 years before he got cast in Star Trek. They are possibly two of the worst examples you could have used. I was basing it on how many roles the person had, had. Not how much of a star they were. It's hard to have lot of roles when you are a star in a series for many, many years. You are not exactly inexperienced in the industry if you've been around for 6 years as a star of a global tv show. It isn't as if you have had a lot of roles and you just have one line in each. |
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Post by TomJohns on Dec 5, 2013 12:25:10 GMT -5
I was basing it on how many roles the person had, had. Not how much of a star they were. It's hard to have lot of roles when you are a star in a series for many, many years. You are not exactly inexperienced in the industry if you've been around for 6 years as a star of a global tv show. It isn't as if you have had a lot of roles and you just have one line in each. I was meaning it's difficult to judge someone when they've had such little roles. EG: Will Smith was a comedy actor in Fresh Prince, It'd have been extremely difficult to judge how he'd do in a Drama or Action role at that point in his career. You see what i mean? |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 5, 2013 13:29:12 GMT -5
It's hard to have lot of roles when you are a star in a series for many, many years. You are not exactly inexperienced in the industry if you've been around for 6 years as a star of a global tv show. It isn't as if you have had a lot of roles and you just have one line in each. I was meaning it's difficult to judge someone when they've had such little roles. EG: Will Smith was a comedy actor in Fresh Prince, It'd have been extremely difficult to judge how he'd do in a Drama or Action role at that point in his career. You see what i mean? I see that you're attempting to call "Independence Day" a drama, which is ridiculous, as is the fact that you somehow ignored that he had dramatic roles in Made In America AND Six Degrees of Separation... |
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