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Post by wildknight on Feb 12, 2014 14:28:13 GMT -5
And hey, look what he did with it.  ... narrowly avoided arrest because his brother-in-law happened to be a DEA agent? |
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 12, 2014 14:35:32 GMT -5
Yes. That's the only thing that came of it because Walter was a buffoon.
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Post by wildknight on Feb 12, 2014 16:09:27 GMT -5
Yes. That's the only thing that came of it because Walter was a buffoon. He wasn't a buffoon, but he wasn't a particularly competent criminal either. The only way you could deny this is if you have a very high tolerance for convenient coincidence. |
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 12, 2014 19:16:29 GMT -5
You honestly don't think that he was competent as a criminal? It's largely coincidence that by the end of the series he has eliminated every single one of his enemies, earned 80 million dollars and established his product not just all over the southwest and Mexico but as far away as Central Europe? To me it seems like he did a pretty decent job, the only coincidences I can remember are occasional scenes like those where he was almost killed by the Salamanca brothers. I recall pretty much everything else as being a situation that was a success for him by virtue of violence or manipulation.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Feb 12, 2014 19:20:29 GMT -5
To me it seems like he did a pretty decent job, the only coincidences I can remember are occasional scenes like those where he was almost killed by the Salamanca brothers. Should have used a spoiler. Ah well, I don't even know who those guys are, and I'll probably forget their names by the time they show up in my Breaking Bad run through. Unfortunately for me another guy is also going through the series, one season at a time just ahead of me, so I have to keep waiting for him to return each season. |
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 12, 2014 19:23:12 GMT -5
To me it seems like he did a pretty decent job, the only coincidences I can remember are occasional scenes like those where he was almost killed by the Salamanca brothers. Should have used a spoiler. Ah well, I don't even know who those guys are, and I'll probably forget their names by the time they show up in my Breaking Bad run through. Unfortunately for me another guy is also going through the series, one season at a time just ahead of me, so I have to keep waiting for him to return each season. Why are you still reading this? We changed the thread to say "spoiler" and about half a dozen posts back I explicitly said (over the course of two separate parts of the post) that there were going to be complete, utterly show-revealing spoilers ahead. Honestly and without hyperbole, if you plan to enjoy the show without it being spoiled for you, you should really not continue to follow this thread from here on out. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Feb 12, 2014 19:24:27 GMT -5
Should have used a spoiler. Ah well, I don't even know who those guys are, and I'll probably forget their names by the time they show up in my Breaking Bad run through. Unfortunately for me another guy is also going through the series, one season at a time just ahead of me, so I have to keep waiting for him to return each season. Why are you still reading this? We changed the thread to say "spoiler" and about half a dozen posts back I explicitly said (over the course of two separate parts of the post) that there were going to be complete, utterly show-revealing spoilers ahead. Honestly and without hyperbole, if you plan to enjoy the show without it being spoiled for you, you should really not continue to follow this thread from here on out. Alright. |
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Post by wildknight on Feb 12, 2014 21:43:54 GMT -5
You honestly don't think that he was competent as a criminal? It's largely coincidence that by the end of the series he has eliminated every single one of his enemies, earned 80 million dollars and established his product not just all over the southwest and Mexico but as far away as Central Europe? To me it seems like he did a pretty decent job, the only coincidences I can remember are occasional scenes like those where he was almost killed by the Salamanca brothers. I recall pretty much everything else as being a situation that was a success for him by virtue of violence or manipulation. No, and yes. Respectively |
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 12, 2014 21:45:53 GMT -5
Lol well, alright then.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Feb 12, 2014 21:59:10 GMT -5
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 12, 2014 22:03:12 GMT -5
What did I just tell you?
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Feb 12, 2014 22:04:42 GMT -5
What did I just tell you? I didn't read any of the posts. I just stumbled upon that picture and had no where else to post it. Just wanted to grind someones gears by making them imagine Bruce Willis as Walter White/Heisenberg. |
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 12, 2014 22:17:58 GMT -5
Well it's up to you, you're the one taking the risk. Lately Bruce Willis just grinds my gears in general. |
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Post by CaptainDamage on Feb 13, 2014 1:23:59 GMT -5
I like Gus. A Careful man.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Feb 13, 2014 6:09:31 GMT -5
It kind of looks like Rick (I think that's his name) from Pawn Stars. |
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Post by wildknight on Feb 13, 2014 6:29:57 GMT -5
I like Gus. A Careful man. Yeah, Gus was very cool, but you kind of knew from day one it had to end up being him or Walt. |
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Post by muta75 on Feb 13, 2014 8:27:09 GMT -5
i grew to like Jesse a lot. at first i couldn't see that happening.
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 13, 2014 13:50:30 GMT -5
Most of the characters were X vs Walt, it didn't stop me from liking them though. I'd almost put Gus in my top tier of favorites, he's right behind the two main stars as the characters that I most enjoyed.
As for Jesse, I still don't really know what problem so many people had with him. I liked him from the very first episode. Based on the summaries of the show I didn't think I would, but I guess I find Aaron Paul to be an endearing actor.
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Post by wildknight on Feb 13, 2014 13:57:08 GMT -5
Jesse was a weak willed pussy. That's what I didn't like about him 8)
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 13, 2014 14:58:01 GMT -5
He may have started that way, and I wouldn't argue that he didn't still have more growing to do, but the character definitely matured. His relationship with Walter (and in particular the things he had to do during this relationship) changed him, he was clearly a follower who was easily manipulated but who came to develop a greater sense of determination and personal identity when everything was said and done.
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