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Post by Rush on Dec 27, 2013 22:52:44 GMT -5
I like brawn
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Post by muta75 on Dec 27, 2013 23:06:51 GMT -5
Mike Tyson was indeed a skilled boxer. his head movement was exceptional, he used subtle footwork to increase the torque on his punches, had a remarkable jab for a smaller man not to mention excellent timing when it came to counter punching. to try and claim he had no skill is either utter stupidity or laughable trolling. i'll leave it for all of you to decide...
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 27, 2013 23:08:09 GMT -5
Mike Tyson was indeed a skilled boxer. his head movement was exceptional, he used subtle footwork to increase the torque on his punches, had a remarkable jab for a smaller man not to mention excellent timing when it came to counter punching. to try and claim he had no skill is either utter stupidity or laughable trolling. i'll leave it for all of you to decide... This motherfucker is high on bus gasoline. How do I know that bus gasoline can make you high? I tried it when I was 7...
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Post by muta75 on Dec 27, 2013 23:13:25 GMT -5
Mike Tyson was indeed a skilled boxer. his head movement was exceptional, he used subtle footwork to increase the torque on his punches, had a remarkable jab for a smaller man not to mention excellent timing when it came to counter punching. to try and claim he had no skill is either utter stupidity or laughable trolling. i'll leave it for all of you to decide... This motherf***er is high on bus gasoline. How do I know that bus gasoline can make you high? I tried it when I was 7... nothing i said is disputable you ******..
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 27, 2013 23:16:01 GMT -5
This motherf***er is high on bus gasoline. How do I know that bus gasoline can make you high? I tried it when I was 7... nothing i said is disputable you ******.. I just wanted to point out that there is a shift key on your keyboard for a reason. You should probably use it or break your fingers by smashing them with a semi truck.
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Post by muta75 on Dec 27, 2013 23:19:33 GMT -5
nothing i said is disputable you ******.. I just wanted to point out that there is a shift key on your keyboard for a reason. You should probably use it or break your fingers by smashing them with a semi truck. i want to point out you're still a ******..
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 27, 2013 23:21:22 GMT -5
I just wanted to point out that there is a shift key on your keyboard for a reason. You should probably use it or break your fingers by smashing them with a semi truck. i want to point out you're still a ******.. And I want to point out that there is still a shift key on your keyboard, and that your fingers still aren't broken.
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Post by Rush on Dec 28, 2013 8:10:58 GMT -5
Soon your 15 I highly doubt you have watched a tyson fight
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Post by wildknight on Dec 28, 2013 8:46:41 GMT -5
Your claims that Tyson was ever a skilled boxer are laughable. Whatever you say. Again, I'd invite you to go find one of his Olympic matches and show me even a single round where I'm missing this highly skilled boxer that you claim he was. I've got no personal stake in Tyson's boxing skill. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong... but when I watch Mike Tyson, I see a guy who was strong enough to block a lot of shots, wait for his moment, and then throw a bone crushing bomb. That's not an extreme degree of skill, as far as I'm concerned. I already posted (at least) one of his Olympic matches to back my claim, and as I've said, I never got any response on when exactly "highly skilled" Tyson kicked in.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 28, 2013 8:50:23 GMT -5
This motherf***er is high on bus gasoline. How do I know that bus gasoline can make you high? I tried it when I was 7... nothing i said is disputable you ******.. ... everything you said is disputable. In fact the only bit that I would say was even remotely accurate, much less indisputable, was that Tyson was a counter-puncher. Head movement and "subtle foot work" my flaming red ass. You know what is an indisputable fact; at one point Tyson threw the hardest punch ever digitally recorded. You know why so many guys went down to his fists? Because he could punch with enough force to shatter the bone of an ordinary man with ease. Even trained boxers weren't ready for how hard he threw. It's not like he was George "hit me all you want, you're still dead when I get my fists on you" Foreman, but he was hardly Sugar Ray Robinson, either.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 28, 2013 8:52:36 GMT -5
Soon your 15 I highly doubt you have watched a tyson fight I'm like 36, do you know how many Harley Race matches I've seen? Or Buddy Rogers? Your age doesn't define your exposure... your choice to expose yourself determines your exposure. ... and no, I"m not recommending running around exposing yourself at boxing or wrestling matches.
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 28, 2013 9:22:24 GMT -5
Again, I'd invite you to go find one of his Olympic matches and show me even a single round where I'm missing this highly skilled boxer that you claim he was. I've got no personal stake in Tyson's boxing skill. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong... but when I watch Mike Tyson, I see a guy who was strong enough to block a lot of shots, wait for his moment, and then throw a bone crushing bomb. That's not an extreme degree of skill, as far as I'm concerned. I already posted (at least) one of his Olympic matches to back my claim, and as I've said, I never got any response on when exactly "highly skilled" Tyson kicked in. "Highly skilled" is up for debate, as it is for any boxer. Your original suggestion was that Tyson never had any skill to speak of and went on to suggest that all he did was absorb punishment until the moment came to strike back with a single well-placed blow. That's not at all how his career unfolded and I'm pretty certain that you know it. I'm not really sure why you choose to dismiss his speed, reflexes, footwork and combinations to insist that it was nothing more than clumsy brute force that won him a 37 fight winning streak, a career total of fifty wins against six losses, and a still-standing record as the youngest undisputed champion in the history of the sport, but you're going to think what you want to think.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 28, 2013 10:40:22 GMT -5
Your original suggestion was that Tyson never had any skill to speak of and went on to suggest that all he did was absorb punishment until the moment came to strike back with a single well-placed blow. Actually I said (and will stand by) that he blocked, not that he absorbed punishment. George Foreman just took shots. Mike Tyson blocked them. There's a difference. I don't dismiss his speed and reflexes. I do dismiss his footwork, and I think his "combinations" were nothing more than him being fast. I've never denied that the man was a natural born killer. He was a beast. He was strong, fast, and resilient. None of those things are "skill" though. Skill is what you learn, not what you're born with.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 28, 2013 11:15:10 GMT -5
Soon your 15 I highly doubt you have watched a tyson fight There's a little thing called Youtube.
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Post by muta75 on Dec 28, 2013 12:18:23 GMT -5
if you say so chief
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Post by muta75 on Dec 28, 2013 12:22:54 GMT -5
his ability to throw punches with velocity and accuracy isn't a skill? the Marvis Frazier fight when he used the little hop steps to keep him trapped against the ropes isn't skill, it doesn't show knowledge of angles and how to get the best effect on his punches? no? of course not..
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Post by stewie34732 on Dec 28, 2013 16:47:00 GMT -5
FUCK YES!!! lesnar vs carwin 2!
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Post by muta75 on Dec 28, 2013 16:55:00 GMT -5
f*** YES!!! lesnar vs carwin 2! Carwin has serious back and neck problems, and Brock's health issues are well known. EDIT: the first fight showed what a huge heart Brock has, most ANY other heavyweight would have folded under that beating.
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Post by stewie34732 on Dec 28, 2013 17:03:41 GMT -5
f*** YES!!! lesnar vs carwin 2! Carwin has serious back and neck problems, and Brock's health issues are well known. EDIT: the first fight showed what a huge heart Brock has, most ANY other heavyweight would have folded under that beating. damn wasent aware of carwin's issues. got a whole bunch of facebook updates about dana discussing lesnar vs carwin 2
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Post by muta75 on Dec 28, 2013 17:10:47 GMT -5
Carwin has serious back and neck problems, and Brock's health issues are well known. EDIT: the first fight showed what a huge heart Brock has, most ANY other heavyweight would have folded under that beating. damn wasent aware of carwin's issues. got a whole bunch of facebook updates about dana discussing lesnar vs carwin 2 i'm not saying it won't happen, but i don't expect it to be a great fight.
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