muta75
Jobber
RONDA ROUSEY IS THE BEST FIGHTER ON THE PLANET
Posts: 3,606 
|
Post by muta75 on Dec 30, 2013 18:07:25 GMT -5
of course it's technical. the guy on the bottom in open guard control the top guy's wrist, you can bet the legs are going up to attempt a triangle. using the free leg to try and pry apart a lock down is technical. if you don't recognize that then i will assume you don't know what you're looking at. and, since when did any physical activity not have a degree of "muscle memory or physical prowess"? You do realize you're arguing about MMA against a guy who actually fought in MMA, right? yet again i say, when you don't know anything about me it's easy to wrongfully assume things about me... |
|
|
|
Post by wildknight on Dec 30, 2013 18:53:17 GMT -5
You do realize you're arguing about MMA against a guy who actually fought in MMA, right? yet again i say, when you don't know anything about me it's easy to wrongfully assume things about me... I'm only assuming that you're missing the point, and you are. Yes, all physical activity involves physical prowess and muscle memory. Not all physical activity is tactical. Tactics are something that you actively think about during execution. |
|
Rush
Jobber
RONDA ROUSEY IS THE WORST HUMAN BEING ON THE PLANET
Posts: 2,486
|
Post by Rush on Dec 30, 2013 20:40:00 GMT -5
Muta is practitioner of Gracie barraa bjj if I remember correctly. Might just be Gracie bjj but muta knows more about mma than anyone here
|
|
|
|
Post by wildknight on Dec 30, 2013 20:44:25 GMT -5
Muta is practitioner of Gracie barraa bjj if I remember correctly. Might just be Gracie bjj but muta knows more about mma than anyone here I don't care what he's a practitioner of. If he thinks the ground element of MMA is tactical, he either doesn't understand MMA, or doesn't know what "tactical" means. It is strategic. It is not tactical. |
|
muta75
Jobber
RONDA ROUSEY IS THE BEST FIGHTER ON THE PLANET
Posts: 3,606
|
Post by muta75 on Dec 30, 2013 21:57:05 GMT -5
Muta is practitioner of Gracie barraa bjj if I remember correctly. Might just be Gracie bjj but muta knows more about mma than anyone here I don't care what he's a practitioner of. If he thinks the ground element of MMA is tactical, he either doesn't understand MMA, or doesn't know what "tactical" means. It is strategic. It is not tactical. setting traps and manipulating your opponent to go to a position to set forth your own plan of attack isn't tactical? if not than i don't know what tactical is. @joey i have a black belt under a Relson Gracie flag. |
|
|
|
Post by wildknight on Dec 30, 2013 22:02:30 GMT -5
setting traps and manipulating your opponent to go to a position to set forth your own plan of attack isn't tactical? if not than i don't know what tactical is. @joey i have a black belt under a Relson Gracie flag. Keep spinning. It doesn't change the facts. Once you're in the clutch, you're reacting, not thinking. You're behaving based upon a predetermined strategy, not plotting an ongoing series of tactics. |
|
Rush
Jobber
RONDA ROUSEY IS THE WORST HUMAN BEING ON THE PLANET
Posts: 2,486
|
Post by Rush on Dec 30, 2013 22:06:07 GMT -5
How long did that take ?
|
|
muta75
Jobber
RONDA ROUSEY IS THE BEST FIGHTER ON THE PLANET
Posts: 3,606
|
Post by muta75 on Dec 30, 2013 22:35:23 GMT -5
setting traps and manipulating your opponent to go to a position to set forth your own plan of attack isn't tactical? if not than i don't know what tactical is. @joey i have a black belt under a Relson Gracie flag. Keep spinning. It doesn't change the facts. Once you're in the clutch, you're reacting, not thinking. You're behaving based upon a predetermined strategy, not plotting an ongoing series of tactics. learn jiu jitsu and you'll understand |
|
muta75
Jobber
RONDA ROUSEY IS THE BEST FIGHTER ON THE PLANET
Posts: 3,606
|
Post by muta75 on Dec 30, 2013 22:35:48 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by wildknight on Dec 30, 2013 22:37:24 GMT -5
Keep spinning. It doesn't change the facts. Once you're in the clutch, you're reacting, not thinking. You're behaving based upon a predetermined strategy, not plotting an ongoing series of tactics. learn jiu jitsu and you'll understand LOL I love when people try to pretend that their art has some great secret that other martial arts don't. It's cute. |
|
muta75
Jobber
RONDA ROUSEY IS THE BEST FIGHTER ON THE PLANET
Posts: 3,606
|
Post by muta75 on Dec 30, 2013 22:45:50 GMT -5
learn jiu jitsu and you'll understand LOL I love when people try to pretend that their art has some great secret that other martial arts don't. It's cute. they aren't "secrets" anyone can come in and learn them. if you don't know jiu jitsu then saying you won't understand isn't much of a stretch.. |
|
|
|
Post by wildknight on Dec 30, 2013 22:47:34 GMT -5
LOL I love when people try to pretend that their art has some great secret that other martial arts don't. It's cute. they aren't "secrets" anyone can come in and learn them. if you don't know jiu jitsu then saying you won't understand isn't much of a stretch.. Yes, it is. I'm not a striker. Everything I won, I won on my ability to work on the ground. Jiu-Jutsu isn't the only martial art that teaches one how to work the mat. I DO understand. You're attempting to defend a weak position, and you can't even see that. Mat work in MMA is strategic, not tactical. |
|
Rush
Jobber
RONDA ROUSEY IS THE WORST HUMAN BEING ON THE PLANET
Posts: 2,486
|
Post by Rush on Dec 30, 2013 22:53:34 GMT -5
How old were you when you started
|
|
muta75
Jobber
RONDA ROUSEY IS THE BEST FIGHTER ON THE PLANET
Posts: 3,606
|
Post by muta75 on Dec 30, 2013 22:56:50 GMT -5
they aren't "secrets" anyone can come in and learn them. if you don't know jiu jitsu then saying you won't understand isn't much of a stretch.. Yes, it is. I'm not a striker. Everything I won, I won on my ability to work on the ground. Jiu-Jutsu isn't the only martial art that teaches one how to work the mat. I DO understand. You're attempting to defend a weak position, and you can't even see that. Mat work in MMA is strategic, not tactical. i've used my jiu jitsu against many different grappling arts. every time i've used a tactical approach. i want my opponent to go left i leave the left side open, when they assume the left side is open, they make their move and i attack, i adjust. i leave my arm open for attack knowing they will, and i adjust to do what it was i wanted to do. it's not 100% fool proof, but more often than not, it was successful. |
|
|
|
Post by wildknight on Dec 30, 2013 22:59:27 GMT -5
i've used my jiu jitsu against many different grappling arts. every time i've used a tactical approach. i want my opponent to go left i leave the left side open, when they assume the left side is open, they make their move and i attack, i adjust. i leave my arm open for attack knowing they will, and i adjust to do what it was i wanted to do. it's not 100% fool proof, but more often than not, it was successful. You're talking about doing something that you've trained yourself to do. When the time comes, you're (probably) not thinking about it, and if you are thinking about it, you're moving a lot slower than you could be otherwise 8) |
|
muta75
Jobber
RONDA ROUSEY IS THE BEST FIGHTER ON THE PLANET
Posts: 3,606
|
Post by muta75 on Dec 31, 2013 1:23:14 GMT -5
How old were you when you started 14 |
|
muta75
Jobber
RONDA ROUSEY IS THE BEST FIGHTER ON THE PLANET
Posts: 3,606
|
Post by muta75 on Dec 31, 2013 1:31:36 GMT -5
we were all taught to set traps. knowing that when someone sees victory in sight they will many times get tunnel vision and at times act recklessly. technique is a large part of jiu jitsu, a larger part of applying that technique is keeping calm and yes...thinking. thinking many moves and possible situations ahead.it's chess not checkers.
|
|
|
|
Post by wildknight on Dec 31, 2013 5:49:15 GMT -5
Chess relies on the fact that there are only so many options available to your opponent to allow you to think ahead. In a fight, that's simply not true. Your opponent has a world of possibilities, not all of which might be known to you. Again I say; if you're thinking, you're losing.
|
|
