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Post by pinksparklepuff on Jan 29, 2014 12:10:43 GMT -5
If this is true, it explains the lack of Corporate Kane and CM Punk last Monday.
It's also highly unprofessional when word going around is he only had 'til July for his contract to expire.
That being said, odds are the rumors are true.
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Post by Serboy on Jan 29, 2014 12:12:08 GMT -5
WHAT!? I really hope this is a rumor....
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Post by skylerb97 on Jan 29, 2014 12:22:41 GMT -5
WHAT!? I really hope this is a rumor.... Nope it looks to be true considering the updates Tom posted. It sucks aaa fan but we have no one to blame but Punk. |
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Post by Serboy on Jan 29, 2014 12:28:45 GMT -5
WHAT!? I really hope this is a rumor.... Nope it looks to be true considering the updates Tom posted. It sucks aaa fan but we have no one to blame but Punk. CRAP! But, yeah, ya got a point there. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 12:29:08 GMT -5
Austin.... Austin is the comparison i was making. Two huge ego's not happy with the plans WWE had in place for them walking out at RAW. Pretty much the exact same situation. How'd I forget about that? But yeah that's a great example although I wish Austin would've just walked out the night after WM 17 to spare us from the stupidity of his heel turn When Austin was heel and was being incredibly mean to JR was the only time I found him entertaining. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 29, 2014 12:38:21 GMT -5
I honestly don't know why people think he's being selfish or blaming Punk for quitting (if he has).
He has been rumored to leave for awhile now, he didn't like the conditions he was working in and I seriously don't know how it's being selfish of him to want to work said conditions.
I think it more selfish of fans to say "he's being selfish for not sticking out until after WM XXX" honestly, lol.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 29, 2014 12:39:47 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this some while I was enjoying a delicious Chilli Cheese Burrito from Taco Bell (sponsor!), and this is where I fall.
While I do not and will never condone Punk's choice to take his ball and go home before his contract was up, I do think he has something of a point. For almost two years, he was the backbone of the company. He has put on the most consistently solid matches of anyone on the roster, and has done everything WWE could have asked from him. He turned heel when they needed a heel, and face when they needed a face. He dropped his title to the Rock so that Rock/Cena 2 could be more meaningful. He willingly joined in the kayfabe fabrication of his relationship with Paul Heyman in order to make being a "Heyman guy" a thing, and did everything in his power to revitalize the reputation of Brock Lesnar.
If he had been passed over for Bryan, it might have been understandable. Bryan is wildly Over and has a wave of momentum like the WWE hasn't seen in years. Instead, however, he was passed over for Batista... a guy with a notoriously bad work ethic who left the company 4 years ago because he wasn't being pushed the way he wanted to.
In short, if I were Punk, I'd feel disrespected too. For me, Punk has lost a lot of his "luster" over the past several months, but his ringwork has remained pristine throughout, and he has consistently been there to put Over whomever WWE decided needed the rub from Punk (including the aforementioned Bryan). I suspect that Punk is heartbroken in a way. He didn't work as hard as he has to get to the top of the mountain and never quite put his feet on the peak.
... none of that excuses walking out though. Punk needs to get his emotions in check.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 29, 2014 12:40:50 GMT -5
I totally missed the Austin comparison as well. Good job Tom.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 29, 2014 12:46:01 GMT -5
I do however think leaving before the contract is unprofessional and I can see that part of the disagreement.....He should've waited it out (for professional reason).
But for those saying to wait after WM XXX, what's the difference between then and now?
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Jan 29, 2014 12:46:03 GMT -5
I honestly don't know why people think he's being selfish or blaming Punk for quitting (if he has). He has been rumored to leave for awhile now, he didn't like the conditions he was working in and I seriously don't know how it's being selfish of him to want to work said conditions. I think it more selfish of fans to say "he's being selfish for not sticking out until after WM XXX" honestly, lol. I see where you are coming from and agree with you in a way. Personally, I think he should've stayed until his contract was up, but like I said before I can't really blame him for leaving considering the way things are going. |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 29, 2014 12:51:13 GMT -5
I do however think leaving before the contract is unprofessional and I can see that part of the disagreement.....He should've waited it out (for professional reason). But for those saying to wait after WM XXX, what's the difference between then and now? Because leaving before the biggest PPV of the year screws over the company big time, and leaves a lot of plot threads unresolved. If he had given them time, they could have worked his exit into something meaningful for the company. I'm sorry dude, but on this one, you're just plain wrong... his behavior is by definition selfish. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 29, 2014 13:01:07 GMT -5
I do however think leaving before the contract is unprofessional and I can see that part of the disagreement.....He should've waited it out (for professional reason). But for those saying to wait after WM XXX, what's the difference between then and now? Because leaving before the biggest PPV of the year screws over the company big time, and leaves a lot of plot threads unresolved. If he had given them time, they could have worked his exit into something meaningful for the company. I'm sorry dude, but on this one, you're just plain wrong... his behavior is by definition selfish. I just don't see it. There are many things that could've affected his decisions. Maybe he warned them awhile ago that he needed to have things fixed for him and/or he might not be able to last the whole duration. Maybe since they had him wrestling under bad conditions (I was told he wrestled with bruised ribs a few weeks in a row...with Brock Lesnar, is it true?), that he just couldn't stand putting everything into the business and them give him......Bray Wyatt and the Shield, lol. I'm not condoning leaving earlier than his contract, but leaving before WM is no better than leaving right now if you ask me. Why would they hype him up for big use at WM only to say....well, he quit, so how do we make him disappear without him being on t.v. anymore? |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 29, 2014 13:07:03 GMT -5
I just don't see it. There are many things that could've affected his decisions. Maybe he warned them awhile ago that he needed to have things fixed for him and/or he might not be able to last the whole duration. Maybe since they had him wrestling under bad conditions (I was told he wrestled with bruised ribs a few weeks in a row...with Brock Lesnar, is it true?), that he just couldn't stand putting everything into the business and them give him......Bray Wyatt and the Shield, lol. I'm not condoning leaving earlier than his contract, but leaving before WM is no better than leaving right now if you ask me. Why would they hype him up for big use at WM only to say....well, he quit, so how do we make him disappear without him being on t.v. anymore? Literally everything you just said still boils down to him being selfish. I wasn't referencing them hyping him up though. I was referencing them closing out his storylines so that he could leave on good terms. Even Batista, worthless prick that he is, and Lesnar, and Goldberg, sacked up and finished out their storylines and obligations before wandering off to inject steroids into one-another's asses. Batista let WWE turn him into a giant crybaby was booed out of the stadium on his last day. I honestly don't see how you're not getting this. Punk is acting like a child. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 29, 2014 13:18:15 GMT -5
I don't know about you, but if they had me wrestling while injured (even if it be bruised ribs), I wouldn't stay there. Then again, I'm a pu......wimp.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 29, 2014 13:23:37 GMT -5
I don't know about you, but if they had me wrestling while injured (even if it be bruised ribs), I wouldn't stay there. Then again, I'm a pu......wimp. Working hurt is what wrestlers do. Besides that, none of the reports have anything to do with him working hurt. The only thing that seems to be hurt is his pride. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 29, 2014 13:26:17 GMT -5
....I disagree with wrestlers having to work hurt.....that's just not right.
BUT, if he didn't work hurt (which I actually basically said may not be the case above), then I don't know.
I still don't think condoning him to leave after WM is any better than condoning it right now though.
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Post by TomJohns on Jan 29, 2014 13:27:57 GMT -5
I totally missed the Austin comparison as well. Good job Tom.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 13:28:15 GMT -5
I think he's being selfish. I also don't have a problem with that. Nobody is setting themselves aside to look out for his best interest. He doesn't owe anybody anything. If he is in violation of his contract Vince can choose if he wants to seek litigation. Good for Punk if he wants to do what he feels is best for Punk. 95% of the decision I make are about what's best for me/my family. It'll be a shame to lose one of the few reasons I like to tune in.
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 29, 2014 13:32:07 GMT -5
I think it's sad that one of their top prizes (even if some think he's overrated, I don't think this can be argued with, but I'm sure somebody will say otherwise) feels the need to quit early.
Then again, Punk can be a prick, lol.
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Post by TomJohns on Jan 29, 2014 13:32:24 GMT -5
Whilst he is being selfish i see nothing wrong his selfishness, If WWE wouldn't give him time off, He had no other choice but to take matters into his own hands before he got seriously injured, I mean we all know they guy has looked worse than he usually does for the past few months.
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