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Post by Gmensox007 on Jan 31, 2014 16:41:48 GMT -5
Oh for the love of Jesus........ looks like WWE is having a panic attack......  |
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Post by monkeywool on Jan 31, 2014 16:42:53 GMT -5
I honestly don't think the current fans hijacking the product is directly do do with Bryan not being in the main event, he's the current topic but the fans have been doing it for a year now.
Fans are tired of the same old bullshit that's been happening for years now. This is what the crowd were shouting the night after WM and Cena being champ. They want new guys in the main event scene for a change.
If this meeting happens, they need to radically shake up everything and make the WWE more unpredictable again.
In terms of Daniel Bryan. If he is to be in the main event, they should really WM X it. Batista v Orton and Bryan v HHH. Difference being, if Bryan wins, he gets a title shot that night at WM.
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Post by TomJohns on Jan 31, 2014 16:56:38 GMT -5
Just imagine the crowd if Vince came out with D-Bry and done this at Mania after Orton VS Batista
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 31, 2014 17:14:02 GMT -5
I was just talking to my Wisconsin buddy about this very phenomenon yesterday (though not in reference to this particular example of it). We were chatting about commentators and I talked about how one of the reasons why I loved Ventura's commentary is that he made it sound as if he was taking the product seriously without sounding like a cartoon. I lamented the fact that the modern style, especially apparent with guys like Lawler, is to constantly tell jokes and mock or riff on the onscreen action. I don't really get the point of this and wonder why it became not just acceptable but preferable to talk up the product as comedy. Well for one thing, there's no fake strategy to the fake fighting anymore, so what do the commentators have to add to the match? The purpose of commentators in sports is to tell the audience what's going on and why. I think you're right. No strategy, no real storylines, no real kayfabe. What's there for them to actually talk about? If no one else takes things seriously, why should they? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 17:15:07 GMT -5
The issue here is that Daniel Bryan was the WHC Champion, and no one really cared once he won the belt. The problem with Bryan, as was with Rey Mysterio and even one of my favorites Christian, is the majority of fans rooting for them are trying to get the underdog over, and once they are over, they begin looking for a new underdog to replace them.
Also, does anyone remember the stupid "What?" chants, made famous by Stone Cold Steve Austin? America and most other countries have a tendency to fall in love with these chants, and then they want to be cool, so they just shout them. I still here What chants all the time, but doubt most people would enjoy SCSA back on a full time basis. I feel the "yes" chant is getting into that category, remember the Fandango theme being hummed everywhere?
One last thing on this Daniel Bryan rant I seem to have gotten on, he is one lucky guy if you ask me. Here is why:
1. During the Nexus Invasion Angle he chokes an announcer with their tie, I thought it was a work, but it was later revealed that it was unplanned.
2. During same Nexus Invasion Angle, he spits on the "FACE" of WWE, John Cena, another thing that was unscripted.
3. Bryan gets fired from WWE. I never have believed that to be an angle, and the public is outraged. WWE reconsiders their position and brings him back.
4. Bryan loses to Sheamus in the quickest Title match at WrestleMania
What I am saying is that there are issues here that we are not aware of. Yes backstage politics plays into it, but from what I read he is popular backstage. So to me, WWE is eating up the hatred being garnered and helping really build Bryan into a Main Eventer(Read Top Draw), that won't fade when he becomes Champion. They don't want another Chris Benoit on their hands.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 31, 2014 17:15:17 GMT -5
There ARE storylines. I have to say that. They're just not very well carried out, most of the time. Bryan vs. the Wyatts could have been a great story.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 17:17:52 GMT -5
There ARE storylines. I have to say that. They're just not very well carried out, most of the time. Bryan vs. the Wyatts could have been a great story. Yeah but fans have such a "right now" need that most are unwilling to sit back and watch storylines unfold.
The attention span of the fans is much lower than in the past when you could tell a story over a years time.
And the Wyatt/Bryan storyline is one that could have been beautiful, but fans were all over it.
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Post by TomJohns on Jan 31, 2014 17:19:19 GMT -5
In a way Cena VS Rock in the build to WM28 was a perfect example of how you build a story up.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 31, 2014 17:20:19 GMT -5
There ARE storylines. I have to say that. They're just not very well carried out, most of the time. Bryan vs. the Wyatts could have been a great story. Yeah but fans have such a "right now" need that most are unwilling to sit back and watch storylines unfold.
The attention span of the fans is much lower than in the past when you could tell a story over a years time.
That is a big part of the problem, but I still feel like WWE could invest in giving some detail to these short attention span theater storylines that they're doing now. It couldn't possibly have taken more than 15 extra minutes of TV time spread over 2 or 3 weeks to explain the whole "the devil made us do it!" thing with the Wyatts, etc. It just seems like ever since the "anonymous RAW GM" debacle, they've been gunshy about giving any details about anything. |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 31, 2014 17:21:22 GMT -5
In a way Cena VS Rock in the build to WM28 was a perfect example of how you build a story up. Great, so when forced to do so by The Rock's "too busy for your silly TV show" schedule, the WWE can still build a rivalry properly 8) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 17:24:40 GMT -5
The problem is most fans are tired of seeing the same thing over and over, I mean am I the only one that puts RAW on the pip and plays video games till I see someone or something that matters to me, then I watch? I mean the whole Rhodes Brothers vs New Age is one of the silliest things ever.
Long time, WildKnight. This is Grifterstein from 2k
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Post by TomJohns on Jan 31, 2014 17:24:59 GMT -5
In a way Cena VS Rock in the build to WM28 was a perfect example of how you build a story up. Great, so when forced to do so by The Rock's "too busy for your silly TV show" schedule, the WWE can still build a rivalry properly 8) Yeah pretty much. Punk said it in that interview Q&A thing i posted the other day, One of the reasons people loved ECW so much back in the day was because they understood how to build a rivalry and give it longevity, I think he said Taz VS Sabu was a good example of how to build a rivalry week-in-week-out |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 31, 2014 17:26:09 GMT -5
The problem is most fans are tired of seeing the same thing over and over, I mean am I the only one that puts RAW on the pip and plays video games till I see someone or something that matters to me, then I watch? I mean the whole Rhodes Brothers vs New Age is one of the silliest things ever. Long time, WildKnight. This is Grifterstein from 2k Hey, what's up man! Good to see you |
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Post by skylerb97 on Jan 31, 2014 17:32:26 GMT -5
And I thought nothing could be more sloppily put together than Mania 29 (although on most accounts it delivered. Was just far too predictable to live up to usual Mania excitement.
But at least it seems like they're attempting to salvage what can be done in about 8 weeks. Unfortunately out of haste more so than anything else.
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 31, 2014 18:40:03 GMT -5
There ARE storylines. I have to say that. They're just not very well carried out, most of the time. Bryan vs. the Wyatts could have been a great story. Yeah but fans have such a "right now" need that most are unwilling to sit back and watch storylines unfold.
The attention span of the fans is much lower than in the past when you could tell a story over a years time. So WWE doesn't deliver long or noteworthy storylines and it's the fan's fault? |
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Post by setokaiba on Jan 31, 2014 19:49:40 GMT -5
If this is true I don't expect anything to come from it but more of the same. But as Monkey and a few others said I think a lot of the Bryan is getting is because fans are just tired of the same old crap with WWE, remember CM Punk was getting these kind of cheers in 2011, hell fans at one point cheered Zack Ryder throughout Raw. I don't Ned my top guys to look like Brock,Big E, Ryback, or Batista but maybe WWE feel like casual fans won't take the Bryan,Ziggler and CM Punks of the as serious.
I think WWE should ahead with Batista vs Orton for the WWE title and whatever other ideas they wanted to do, going back at this point to change things up will only hurt at this point.
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Post by Gmensox007 on Jan 31, 2014 20:39:31 GMT -5
and whatever other ideas they wanted to do, going back at this point to change things up will only hurt at this point. Like that TNA gif in your signature.......... |
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Post by setokaiba on Jan 31, 2014 20:48:45 GMT -5
and whatever other ideas they wanted to do, going back at this point to change things up will only hurt at this point. Like that TNA gif in your signature.......... Yes just like that |
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Post by Rush on Jan 31, 2014 21:17:58 GMT -5
Can we talk about how awesome fandango is?
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 31, 2014 21:46:18 GMT -5
Should we?
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