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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 14:32:56 GMT -5
My list has been posted several times & Not once was it about in-ring talent or the wrestler as a person outside the ring, It's always about who I found more entertaining to watch.. Honestly If I had to make a top 10 based on In-ring talent alone, Very few on MY personal top 10 list would be featured. I agree. Piper never would have made my list if it was based on in ring talent. |
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Post by TomJohns on Feb 7, 2014 14:39:33 GMT -5
My list has been posted several times & Not once was it about in-ring talent or the wrestler as a person outside the ring, It's always about who I found more entertaining to watch.. Honestly If I had to make a top 10 based on In-ring talent alone, Very few on MY personal top 10 list would be featured. I agree. Piper never would have made my list if it was based on in ring talent. I can't remember my list because it was just 10 randoms from my top 20, But I Know Taker & Austin were at the top of it... They'd not make my Top 10 in-ring list LOL |
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Post by ethanm1834 on Feb 7, 2014 14:55:20 GMT -5
Sometimes it's very hard for me to be objective on certain guys. Though if you gave me a day, I could have my 10 ten based on ring talent with complete objectivity and with plenty of examples to back up the claim.
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Feb 7, 2014 15:14:27 GMT -5
I base most of my favorites off and in ring talent and entertainment they gave me. For example, Edge is my favorite but I don't think he's the best in-ring talent. I think he's good but I loved his whole heel run from 2005-2011. He was a face a few times toward the latter years but I loved his heel stuff. I don't necessarily think Christian is the best in-ring talent either. Like Edge, he's good, but I really enjoyed the things I saw of E&C and I also liked Christian's Captain Charisma gimmick.
I won't flat out dislike a guy if they suck though unless they and aren't entertaining at all. I don't think Eddie is particularly that good in the ring but I found him comical and always liked the guy and never really found him boring. Same with HBK.
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Post by stewie34732 on Feb 7, 2014 15:34:50 GMT -5
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Post by iodill8 on Feb 7, 2014 16:24:57 GMT -5
My Top 10 changes quite alot also.
I don't remember who is on my most recent list.
Bret Hart, HBK, Owen Hart, Cody Rhodes and HHH are the only consistent Top 10 members.
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Post by WSS? on Feb 7, 2014 16:29:18 GMT -5
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Post by pinksparklepuff on Feb 7, 2014 16:48:51 GMT -5
Sweet cheesecake, somebody remembers Muhammad Hassan.
I can give you a personal top ten of guys I absolutely loved to watch perform, but if we're trying to break this all down to find the best wrestler of all time, I'll leave you guys with a ballot for The Repo-Man.
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Post by wildknight on Feb 7, 2014 17:09:05 GMT -5
Even on entertainment value... sorry, but Eddie was more hype than delivery. For WWE to act like he was the first guy ever to use the old "he hit me with a chair, DQ him!" thing was as ridiculous as them claiming they'd invented the ladder match, and his most famous gimmick, that "Lie, Cheat, Steal" BS was nothing more than Ric Flair's dirtiest player in the game gimmick... BUT MEXICAN!
I just... I'm sorry I just don't get it. Very few guys define "overrated" as well as Eddie Guerrero, as far as I'm concerned. Sadly, I actually liked the guy, I think he was a pretty entertaining guy... but the hype for him just disgusts me.
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Post by iodill8 on Feb 7, 2014 17:30:40 GMT -5
My Top 10 Promo-Wise (in this order):
5. Randy Orton
4. The Miz
3. Edge
2. HHH
1. Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Honorable Mention: Rick Rude
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Post by muta75 on Feb 7, 2014 17:31:44 GMT -5
Eddie was very good until he packed on so much mass..needless mass, i will add.
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Post by wildknight on Feb 7, 2014 17:32:30 GMT -5
That's a great list. You should check out some old Superstar Billy Graham and Nick Bockwinkel promos. Those guys were great. The first promo ever I ever heard that really blew me away was Superstar Billy Graham.
Oh, and Jesse Ventura was a great talker as well.
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Post by muta75 on Feb 7, 2014 17:33:26 GMT -5
My Top 10 Promo-Wise (in this order): 5. Randy Orton 4. The Miz 3. Edge 2. HHH 1. Jake "The Snake" Roberts Honorable Mention: Rick Rude not one person on this list belongs on the top 5 |
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Post by wildknight on Feb 7, 2014 17:34:44 GMT -5
Eddie was very good until he packed on so much mass..needless mass, i will add. He could wrestle, and I don't want to take that away from him. I just don't see putting him on a list with Bret, Owen, Hennig... or even Flair, for that matter. Heck, IMO he wasn't even the greatest of the Guerreros. Mando was the best technician, and Chavo was a better straight up wrestler than Eddie. |
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Post by muta75 on Feb 7, 2014 17:35:01 GMT -5
That's a great list. You should check out some old Superstar Billy Graham and Nick Bockwinkel promos. Those guys were great. The first promo ever I ever heard that really blew me away was Superstar Billy Graham. Oh, and Jesse Ventura was a great talker as well. not with Edge, Miz and HHH it's not... |
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Post by iodill8 on Feb 7, 2014 17:36:22 GMT -5
That's a great list. You should check out some old Superstar Billy Graham and Nick Bockwinkel promos. Those guys were great. The first promo ever I ever heard that really blew me away was Superstar Billy Graham. Oh, and Jesse Ventura was a great talker as well. Why, thank you WK. I really like Jesse Ventura for the same reasons Mike does. He has character without being too much. I check those ones out. I also believe that Scott Steiner's pre-1996 promos were excellent compared to his modern ones. He had NO charisma, but he got to the point quick, instead of ranting and bitching about other people's weight. |
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Post by wildknight on Feb 7, 2014 17:36:41 GMT -5
My Top 10 Promo-Wise (in this order): 5. Randy Orton 4. The Miz 3. Edge 2. HHH 1. Jake "The Snake" Roberts Honorable Mention: Rick Rude not one person on this list belongs on the top 5 For promos? Man... obviously it's subjective but I disagree with you. If you're talking about guys in the modern age (remembering that these guys are mostly young), I think it's a very solid list, and Jake the Snake??? You don't think Jake belongs on a top 5 list for ANY time period? The Snake was, for me, entirely different. I love that he didn't shout and he didn't make stupid puns out of his opponents names... he just looked at the camera with icewater in his veins and talked about what he was going to do to the guy. Just.. awesome. |
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Post by wildknight on Feb 7, 2014 17:37:13 GMT -5
That's a great list. You should check out some old Superstar Billy Graham and Nick Bockwinkel promos. Those guys were great. The first promo ever I ever heard that really blew me away was Superstar Billy Graham. Oh, and Jesse Ventura was a great talker as well. not with Edge, Miz and HHH it's not... IMO, 2 out of those 3 are really good promo men, and even Edge is better than you're giving him credit for being 8) |
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Post by muta75 on Feb 7, 2014 17:39:49 GMT -5
not with Edge, Miz and HHH it's not... IMO, 2 out of those 3 are really good promo men, and even Edge is better than you're giving him credit for being 8) if you're giving Edge any credit at all, then you're certainly giving him more credit than i am... |
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