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Post by setokaiba on Mar 2, 2014 12:49:37 GMT -5
I was over Punk months ago, so obviously his leaving was a breath of fresh air to me and his return is unwelcome. I feel the same way. It's like Punk has turned into another Cena. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Mar 2, 2014 12:50:09 GMT -5
Exactly without Punk we got refreshing matches and not the same old same old. New stars were being made and now Punk is coming back to mess it all up. have you not been watching. it's been same old same old for years..one good match between Cena and Cesaro isn't changing that..and that was for EC not wrestlemania (i would assume). You obviously haven't been watching anything other than that Cena vs Cesaro match. We've seen more quality matches in this short period of time than we have for years. Superstars have been given the chance to show there talents in large part because of Punk not being there. All of these shows would have had a Punk main event in them that wouldn't have allowed people like Cesaro a chance to shine. |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Mar 2, 2014 12:51:22 GMT -5
I was over Punk months ago, so obviously his leaving was a breath of fresh air to me and his return is unwelcome. I feel the same way. It's like Punk has turned into another Cena. It's getting there. But one thing Cena has on Punk is that I haven't heard of him strong arming the company to get what he wants. |
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Post by wildknight on Mar 2, 2014 12:52:19 GMT -5
have you not been watching. it's been same old same old for years..one good match between Cena and Cesaro isn't changing that..and that was for EC not wrestlemania (i would assume). You obviously haven't been watching anything other than that Cena vs Cesaro match. We've seen more quality matches in this short period of time than we have for years. Superstars have been given the chance to show there talents in large part because of Punk not being there. All of these shows would have had a Punk main event in them that wouldn't have allowed people like Cesaro a chance to shine. I don't agree with this either 8) I think you're both blind. WWE has had great matches for years. The matches haven't been the problem for the past few years... the... well, pretty much everything else has. |
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Post by setokaiba on Mar 2, 2014 12:52:29 GMT -5
Exactly without Punk we got refreshing matches and not the same old same old. New stars were being made and now Punk is coming back to mess it all up. have you not been watching. it's been same old same old for years..one good match between Cena and Cesaro isn't changing that..and that was for EC not wrestlemania (i would assume). I agree that Punk being gone isn't going to fix WWE problems but it does feel good seeing new faces get a shot. Wrestling still isn't first on WWE mind it's telling stories and trying to appear mainstream. WWE need a better creative team because the current one can't even book long term without screwing up. |
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Post by wildknight on Mar 2, 2014 12:52:47 GMT -5
I feel the same way. It's like Punk has turned into another Cena. It's getting there. But one thing Cena has on Punk is that I haven't heard of him strong arming the company to get what he wants. To be fair, he doesn't have to. WWE just gives him everything. |
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Post by muta75 on Mar 2, 2014 12:52:58 GMT -5
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Post by setokaiba on Mar 2, 2014 12:55:38 GMT -5
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Post by muta75 on Mar 2, 2014 12:57:39 GMT -5
You obviously haven't been watching anything other than that Cena vs Cesaro match. We've seen more quality matches in this short period of time than we have for years. Superstars have been given the chance to show there talents in large part because of Punk not being there. All of these shows would have had a Punk main event in them that wouldn't have allowed people like Cesaro a chance to shine. I don't agree with this either 8) I think you're both blind. WWE has had great matches for years. The matches haven't been the problem for the past few years... the... well, pretty much everything else has. i'm not blind and i'm not talking about match quality, i'm talking about people here assuming that Punk being gone has given all these guys a chance they would have otherwise not gotten. Cesaro is still a midcarder as is Swagger, as is E, Christian is still....Christian and ziggler is still jerking the curtain (as he should be)... |
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Post by Raven_turns#HEELYESBITW on Mar 2, 2014 12:58:11 GMT -5
It's getting there. But one thing Cena has on Punk is that I haven't heard of him strong arming the company to get what he wants. To be fair, he doesn't have to. WWE just gives him everything. Yes that is true. But my goodness the man is about to enter into a program with Bray Wyatt. He could be strong arming the company to get out of that hell hole |
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Mar 2, 2014 12:58:32 GMT -5
Whether or not it's a work doesn't matter a lot to me. I don't think it's a good idea to bring him back so soon because, like Knight said, it will be percieved as the WWE manipulating fans.
That being said I can't say I'd be unhappy to see him back. I'm a fan of Punk. But it isn't going to make me watch again. Batista is still in the main event of Wrestlemania, so they can have it.
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Post by wildknight on Mar 2, 2014 12:59:01 GMT -5
I don't agree with this either 8) I think you're both blind. WWE has had great matches for years. The matches haven't been the problem for the past few years... the... well, pretty much everything else has. i'm not blind and i'm not talking about match quality, i'm talking about people here assuming that Punk being gone has given all these guys a chance they would have otherwise not gotten. Cesaro is still a midcarder as is Swagger, as is E, Christian is still....Christian and ziggler is still jerking the curtain (as he should be)... Well then you're just plain wrong 8) Punk being gone has clearly given other people opportunities to show their stuff. Of course nobody moved up the card overnight, but they have had opportunities that otherwise might not have been there. |
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Post by muta75 on Mar 2, 2014 13:03:07 GMT -5
i'm not blind and i'm not talking about match quality, i'm talking about people here assuming that Punk being gone has given all these guys a chance they would have otherwise not gotten. Cesaro is still a midcarder as is Swagger, as is E, Christian is still....Christian and ziggler is still jerking the curtain (as he should be)... Well then you're just plain wrong 8) Punk being gone has clearly given other people opportunities to show their stuff. Of course nobody moved up the card overnight, but they have had opportunities that otherwise might not have been there. all these jump up mids did not a single squirt of piss at EC..so what good was it in the long run (besides the Shield and the Wyatts, i loved that match)? |
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Post by wildknight on Mar 2, 2014 13:07:34 GMT -5
I do agree, none of them really made a big impact at the EC PPV
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Post by muta75 on Mar 2, 2014 13:14:12 GMT -5
they had a chance to matter and they didn't (with the exception of Shield and Wyatts).
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Post by stewie34732 on Mar 2, 2014 14:20:54 GMT -5
This is going to be interesting. I still say the roster was flourishing without Punk. how when you still got orton & cena still in the main event scene & then batista comes back......... |
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Post by WSS? on Mar 2, 2014 14:36:23 GMT -5
This is going to be interesting. I still say the roster was flourishing without Punk. how when you still got orton & cena still in the main event scene & then batista comes back......... To be honest, I'm getting tired of Orton and Cena, but not as much as I'm tired of Punk. |
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Post by iodill8 on Mar 2, 2014 14:45:24 GMT -5
have you not been watching. it's been same old same old for years..one good match between Cena and Cesaro isn't changing that..and that was for EC not wrestlemania (i would assume). You obviously haven't been watching anything other than that Cena vs Cesaro match. We've seen more quality matches in this short period of time than we have for years. Superstars have been given the chance to show there talents in large part because of Punk not being there. All of these shows would have had a Punk main event in them that wouldn't have allowed people like Cesaro a chance to shine. Raven, I'm getting REAL tired of you talking about giving people the chance to shine. Why don't you go and shine? (Jk) In all seriousness, isn't it kinda too soon for Punk to come back? He JUST left. He would be too unpredictable to be trusted. If he really does come back, this falls into the special category of stupid, such as having a literal corpse face Brock Lesnar at WM 30 and bringing back Batista. |
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Post by stewie34732 on Mar 2, 2014 14:55:55 GMT -5
how when you still got orton & cena still in the main event scene & then batista comes back......... To be honest, I'm getting tired of Orton and Cena, but not as much as I'm tired of Punk. but punk took a back seat for a while , with lesanr , heyman , axel , the shield etc...... i dont undertsand where is this is coming from that the roster will bloom becuase punk is gone..... thats bull!! i can guarantee you , cena will be back in the title picture AGAIN before this year is over. imo the roster will not bloom untill CENA IS GONE! its proven that wwe doesnt trust anyone but CENA & few others but mainly CENA |
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Post by WSS? on Mar 2, 2014 15:06:23 GMT -5
To be honest, I'm getting tired of Orton and Cena, but not as much as I'm tired of Punk. but punk took a back seat for a while , with lesanr , heyman , axel , the shield etc...... i dont undertsand where is this is coming from that the roster will bloom becuase punk is gone..... thats bull!! i can guarantee you , cena will be back in the title picture AGAIN before this year is over. imo the roster will not bloom untill CENA IS GONE! its proven that wwe doesnt trust anyone but CENA & few others but mainly CENA I swear, you're going to make Wild into a Cena fan before the month is over... ANYWAYS, Reigns, Ambrose, Cesaro, and Bray Wyatt are getting their time to shine, big time. If Punk was still around, one of them would likely be in a dead-end rivalry with him, or he'd take up their TV time trying to be edgy by saying one incredibly inoffensive curse word, which the entire internet would worship him for, and hail him for being the bringer of the nonexistent return of the Attitude Era. Cena likely isn't going to last much longer in the main star spot. He'll be around for a while, but it's obvious WWE has started picking the next big guy. ...Also, I don't get the Curtis Axel hype, sorry. At least you and Wild can agree on something, though.  |
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