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Post by sychosid1 on Apr 28, 2014 7:15:53 GMT -5
Exactly what Muta said. And that burying list includes Vladimir Koslov.
Triple H has the same job that John Cena had. They both are/were considered the top of the company so they were the ones that upcoming wrestlers had to go through to be considered to go to top. Jeff Hardy was one who Triple H thought past his "test" to get over with the crowd, have good in-ring matches, psychology, etc. Same with John Cena...this is why The Great Khali & Vladimir Koslov failed because they failed to pass their tests.
EDIT: What babble? Having two separate points? No three and thats considered babble? So WK having about 6 points of full stupidity doesn't count? Biased.
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Post by wildknight on Apr 28, 2014 7:17:57 GMT -5
Babble? No you just can't admit what you're saying is subjective. Like I said a long time ago Wild, YOU THINK when you say something, its 100% correct, no everything is subjective and debatable. What you said is stupid because my reasons above. Your "reasons" are predicated on your belief that HHH got everything he wanted when he hooked up with Stephanie, and from that time forward. That is an unreasonable assumption. Even when discussing something that is subjective, I back my position up with facts and logic. There is no point in entering into a discussion with someone who based their position on emotion and assumption. |
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Post by muta75 on Apr 28, 2014 7:18:25 GMT -5
Exactly what Muta said. And that burying list includes Vladimir Koslov.Triple H has the same job that John Cena had. They both are/were considered the top of the company so they were the ones that upcoming wrestlers had to go through to be considered to go to top. Jeff Hardy was one who Triple H thought past his "test" to get over with the crowd, have good in-ring matches, psychology, etc. Same with John Cena...this is why The Great Khali & Vladimir Koslov failed because they failed to pass their tests. EDIT: What babble? Having two separate points? No three and thats considered babble? So WK having about 6 points of full stupidity doesn't count? Biased. not worth his weight in rat shit, so my point still stands.. |
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 28, 2014 12:49:18 GMT -5
HHH has propped up more guys than he has buried (still waiting for one name that he has actually buried that would have been worth their weight in rat shit). Maven  |
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Post by wildknight on Apr 28, 2014 12:51:18 GMT -5
I'm going to take heat for this, but Maven didn't completely suck, he could have been a low card guy for years and been just fine. The WWE just handled him completely incorrectly and put him into high profile situations that he would NEVER have been ready for, much less 10 minutes into his career.
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 28, 2014 12:55:22 GMT -5
I'm going to take heat for this, but Maven didn't completely suck, he could have been a low card guy for years and been just fine. The WWE just handled him completely incorrectly and put him into high profile situations that he would NEVER have been ready for, much less 10 minutes into his career. I'm not going to lie when he had that WHC match vs HHH I was cheering for him. |
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Post by muta75 on Apr 28, 2014 13:04:57 GMT -5
I'm going to take heat for this, but Maven didn't completely suck, he could have been a low card guy for years and been just fine. The WWE just handled him completely incorrectly and put him into high profile situations that he would NEVER have been ready for, much less 10 minutes into his career. i remember the first season of Tough Enough, i thought that kid who had to leave because of his chronic back issues might have been something. Maven, i seriously don't remember enough about him, which actually says a lot.. |
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Post by WSS? on Apr 28, 2014 13:07:39 GMT -5
Just to help clarify why the idea that Trips uses his marriage for pushes is stupid: WWE is a company, whose main focus is to make money. Trips is a part of said company. Trips is seemingly an intelligent man, so he wouldn't push himself if that meant his paycheck would drop. And even if Trips was that stupid, Steph and Vince aren't.
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Post by muta75 on Apr 28, 2014 13:27:35 GMT -5
Just to help clarify why the idea that Trips uses his marriage for pushes is stupid: WWE is a company, whose main focus is to make money. Trips is a part of said company. Trips is seemingly an intelligent man, so he wouldn't push himself if that meant his paycheck would drop. And even if Trips was that stupid, Steph and Vince aren't. can someone post a clarification of his clarification? |
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Post by wildknight on Apr 28, 2014 13:28:18 GMT -5
Just to help clarify why the idea that Trips uses his marriage for pushes is stupid: WWE is a company, whose main focus is to make money. Trips is a part of said company. Trips is seemingly an intelligent man, so he wouldn't push himself if that meant his paycheck would drop. And even if Trips was that stupid, Steph and Vince aren't. can someone post a clarification of his clarification? He's basically saying that pushing HHH if he weren't worthy would be bad for business. |
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Post by WSS? on Apr 28, 2014 13:29:26 GMT -5
Just to help clarify why the idea that Trips uses his marriage for pushes is stupid: WWE is a company, whose main focus is to make money. Trips is a part of said company. Trips is seemingly an intelligent man, so he wouldn't push himself if that meant his paycheck would drop. And even if Trips was that stupid, Steph and Vince aren't. can someone post a clarification of his clarification? I posted why it was stupid that people thought Trips was some sort of prostitute who gets paid in wrestling pushes, because I felt it was necessary that Sid knew, and you guys didn't explain it. |
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Post by muta75 on Apr 28, 2014 13:31:07 GMT -5
can someone post a clarification of his clarification? He's basically saying that pushing HHH if he weren't worthy would be bad for business. gotcha |
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Post by muta75 on Apr 28, 2014 13:32:14 GMT -5
can someone post a clarification of his clarification? I posted why it was stupid that people thought Trips was some sort of prostitute who gets paid in wrestling pushes, because I felt it was necessary that Sid knew, and you guys didn't explain it.we were too busy pointing and laughing at him... |
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Post by wildknight on Apr 28, 2014 13:32:20 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the WWE frequently does do things that are bad for business. Not intentionally, I don't think, but often enough that there is a pattern.
How much do you think that segment with Austin, Rock, & Hogan to open WM30 cost them?
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Post by muta75 on Apr 28, 2014 13:33:48 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the WWE frequently does do things that are bad for business. Not intentionally, I don't think, but often enough that there is a pattern. How much do you think that segment with Austin, Rock, & Hogan to open WM30 cost them? 20 bucks? |
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Post by WSS? on Apr 28, 2014 13:34:58 GMT -5
They simply have no idea what's profitable. The kids nowadays probably don't know Hogan and Austin very well, and the AE marks don't just want a single Austin appearance, they want penis jokes, nude Divas, guys practically committing suicide in the ring, and cursing all around, so that they can fap to it all.
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Post by wildknight on Apr 28, 2014 13:36:52 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the WWE frequently does do things that are bad for business. Not intentionally, I don't think, but often enough that there is a pattern. How much do you think that segment with Austin, Rock, & Hogan to open WM30 cost them? 20 bucks? I'm betting the three of those guys cost more than the payouts for all of the wrestlers combined, with the possible exceptions of Lesnar and Undertaker, and I seriously doubt that it added enough to the show to to justify the cost. I am waiting for them to put out a Hogan figure though. I've actually only ever owned one Hogan figure in my entire life, which I gave to my kid, so I want one for my collection just for the sake of having it. I owned this one...  |
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Post by wildknight on Apr 28, 2014 13:37:39 GMT -5
They simply have no idea what's profitable. The kids nowadays probably don't know Hogan and Austin very well, and the AE marks don't just want a single Austin appearance, they want penis jokes, nude Divas, guys practically committing suicide in the ring, and cursing all around, so that they can fap to it all. I just remembered why I like you |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 13:37:50 GMT -5
can someone post a clarification of his clarification? Trips was some sort of prostitute :rotfl: |
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Post by miketheratguy on Apr 28, 2014 14:21:05 GMT -5
So it sounds like Triple H's record at Wrestlemania could be described as "average". Average for a Main Eventer with multiple world titles? Not even close... he's lost far more matches than he's won. Almost 50% more losses than victories... Can you name ANY other guy who has been at the top and can say the same thing? Average in terms of wins to losses. He's won a bunch, he's lost a bunch. Main event appearances and title reigns shouldn't influence how many times he wins. His record is fair, any random fan has no reason to whine that Triple H always wins at Wrestlemania nor complain that he always loses. I don't see how anyone could honestly look at Triple H's career and ever say that he's unappreciated by the company. |
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