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Post by ethanm1834 on Jul 12, 2014 23:34:22 GMT -5
No I'm not I'm saying they are not the same. There are women's rights groups that are sensible and not on the extreme. There are some that are on the extreme. There are some white americans there are very proud of their history. That doesn't automatically make them racist. My point is that not all are on the extreme. And what I'm saying is most feminist are not the extreme. You're confusing them with feminazis. Well unfortunately, feminist have their vocal minority that are bat shit crazy. Just like tea party people have their racists douches that bring about a primary perception. Long story short I agree, not all feminist are extreme.
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Post by setokaiba on Jul 12, 2014 23:42:26 GMT -5
Nope full Antichrist. You have to be all in or your out. WAIT, does this make me Barack Obama? Are you also a Kenyan Muslim who is really the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood? If so yes. Jk
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jul 12, 2014 23:47:23 GMT -5
The "Antichrist" is a complete misconception. The Bible names the antichrist as the spirits of those who don't believe in God or don't believe Jesus to be the son of God. "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." 1 John 2:22 KJV So if we follow this line of thought then yes, the antichrist is a women's rights activist(many, actually). I would like to challenge you on that. There is being "antichrist", as you quoted, and there's the Antichrist. The small “a” antichrist is only recorded in the Bible three times. The antichrist is anyone who denies that Jesus came in the flesh or that He was both man and God. By denying this, they also deny the Father and the Son, as stated by the apostle John in I John 2:22, “Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.” As John says in I John 4:3, they were already living in his day as he testified, “but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.” Anyone who denies that Jesus is from God and did not come in the flesh is saying God is a liar (John 1:14). John says further, “I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist“(II John 1:7). The apostle Paul speaks of a specific person as the Antichrist, although not using the name specifically, it is nonetheless the same thing he wrote about in II Thessalonians verses 3 and 8, “Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.” Revelation chapter 13 describes a deceiving imitation of the Trinity that includes Satan, the False Prophet, and the antichrist. The dragon is what is often referred to as Satan throughout the Bible and is clearly identified as Satan (Rev. 12:9). The beast (who is the Antichrist) and the false prophet who comes next (Rev. 13:11) will be given power by Satan and they will rule the world for 42 months during the time of what is called the Great Tribulation (Rev. 13:5-7). They will rule over the earth and place themselves in the place of God and demand to be worshipped (Rev.13:4). The beast of Revelation 13:11 is the false prophet and the third person of the evil trinity that mimics the Holy Trinity of God, performing signs and wonders that will deceive the world (Rev. 13:13-14). Except that neither the prophet nor the beast are referred to specifically as the antichrist. The antichrist is in fact anything that is against the teachings of Christ.
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 12, 2014 23:50:36 GMT -5
Why the fuck are you in a religious thread if you aren't religious?
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Post by WSS? on Jul 12, 2014 23:51:13 GMT -5
Why the fuck are you in a religious thread if you aren't religious? Religion /Beliefs Thread.
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Post by setokaiba on Jul 12, 2014 23:52:21 GMT -5
Why the fuck are you in a religious thread if you aren't religious? Because I can.
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Post by MrEdgeFan on Jul 12, 2014 23:54:34 GMT -5
If this was me back in February or March, I'd be the strongest Christian you met. However, after personal issues as well as an evaluation of the state of the world and thinking about the credibility of religion, I no longer find myself practicing. I'm still unsure if I'd identify as agnostic or Atheist, though. I'll find out as time progresses, I'm sure.
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 12, 2014 23:57:04 GMT -5
If this was me back in February or March, I'd be the strongest Christian you met. However, after personal issues as well as an evaluation of the state of the world and thinking about the credibility of religion, I no longer find myself practicing. I'm still unsure if I'd identify as agnostic or Atheist, though. I'll find out as time progresses, I'm sure. If I remember correctly, you had come out of the closet correct?
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Post by MrEdgeFan on Jul 12, 2014 23:58:21 GMT -5
If this was me back in February or March, I'd be the strongest Christian you met. However, after personal issues as well as an evaluation of the state of the world and thinking about the credibility of religion, I no longer find myself practicing. I'm still unsure if I'd identify as agnostic or Atheist, though. I'll find out as time progresses, I'm sure. If I remember correctly, you had come out of the closet correct? Yes, that's me. However, Christian stance on my sexuality (bisexuality) wasn't one of the biggest reasons I chose to leave the faith. It's more than that, bigger than that. It all boils down to self esteem to be fully honest.
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Post by ethanm1834 on Jul 12, 2014 23:59:29 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, you had come out of the closet correct? Yes, that's me. However, Christian stance on my sexuality (bisexuality) wasn't one of the biggest reasons I chose to leave the faith. It's more than that, bigger than that. It all boils down to self esteem to be fully honest. Do what you feel about that and I hope you find your way. On to the other thing. I hope the coming out wasn't too rough on you and good luck on your path through this world.
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 13, 2014 0:01:45 GMT -5
I would like to challenge you on that. There is being "antichrist", as you quoted, and there's the Antichrist. The small “a” antichrist is only recorded in the Bible three times. The antichrist is anyone who denies that Jesus came in the flesh or that He was both man and God. By denying this, they also deny the Father and the Son, as stated by the apostle John in I John 2:22, “Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.” As John says in I John 4:3, they were already living in his day as he testified, “but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.” Anyone who denies that Jesus is from God and did not come in the flesh is saying God is a liar (John 1:14). John says further, “I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist“(II John 1:7). The apostle Paul speaks of a specific person as the Antichrist, although not using the name specifically, it is nonetheless the same thing he wrote about in II Thessalonians verses 3 and 8, “Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.” Revelation chapter 13 describes a deceiving imitation of the Trinity that includes Satan, the False Prophet, and the antichrist. The dragon is what is often referred to as Satan throughout the Bible and is clearly identified as Satan (Rev. 12:9). The beast (who is the Antichrist) and the false prophet who comes next (Rev. 13:11) will be given power by Satan and they will rule the world for 42 months during the time of what is called the Great Tribulation (Rev. 13:5-7). They will rule over the earth and place themselves in the place of God and demand to be worshipped (Rev.13:4). The beast of Revelation 13:11 is the false prophet and the third person of the evil trinity that mimics the Holy Trinity of God, performing signs and wonders that will deceive the world (Rev. 13:13-14). Except that neither the prophet nor the beast are referred to specifically as the antichrist. Read between the lines. Reread the beginning of my original post.
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Post by MrEdgeFan on Jul 13, 2014 0:02:36 GMT -5
Yes, that's me. However, Christian stance on my sexuality (bisexuality) wasn't one of the biggest reasons I chose to leave the faith. It's more than that, bigger than that. It all boils down to self esteem to be fully honest. Do what you feel about that and I hope you find your way. On to the other thing. I hope the coming out wasn't too rough on you and good luck on your path through this world. Oh, I've only come out on the internet. I've let about five irl friends know, but that's all.I'm yet to face the fury of my family. I'm holding off on that, preparing myself, because it won't be pretty.
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Post by Straight Edge Steve on Jul 13, 2014 0:04:45 GMT -5
Do what you feel about that and I hope you find your way. On to the other thing. I hope the coming out wasn't too rough on you and good luck on your path through this world. Oh, I've only come out on the internet. I've let about five irl friends know, but that's all.I'm yet to face the fury of my family. I'm holding off on that, preparing myself, because it won't be pretty. You still haven't told them? Surely they would be forgiving if they truly love you.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jul 13, 2014 0:07:11 GMT -5
Except that neither the prophet nor the beast are referred to specifically as the antichrist. Read between the lines. Reread the beginning of my original post. There is no Antichrist though, there is only antichrist. It was simply a matter of someone once confusing the name of one thing mentioned in a text in the Bible, finding other texts that could support a connection to yet another text, then building a bridge of misconceptions between the three.
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Post by MrEdgeFan on Jul 13, 2014 0:09:02 GMT -5
Oh, I've only come out on the internet. I've let about five irl friends know, but that's all.I'm yet to face the fury of my family. I'm holding off on that, preparing myself, because it won't be pretty. You still haven't told them? Surely they would be forgiving if they truly love you. The only two people who I think wouldn't discriminate against me or have a lingering hate over me in my direct family are my two sisters. Unfortunately, my father is a near 58 year old macho man who grew up on a farm in Cape Verde. Homosexuality isn't a thing his son should be. It was how he was raised. My mother is near 48 year old strong Christian who was raised by Southern Christians from South Carolina. My grandfather is a Pentecostal pastor. It would take a while if they even considered being okay with it, but they'd feel a bit of disappointment either way. It's a harsh reality I realize; I've just got the find the time in which I can actually deal with the thought.
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 13, 2014 0:10:02 GMT -5
To rephrase, the false prophet isn't the Antichrist, I was referring to the beast only.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jul 13, 2014 0:11:44 GMT -5
To rephrase, the false prophet isn't the Antichrist, I was referring to the beast only. And why is the beast the Antichrist and not say the false prophet or even Satan?(All three have falsely been attributed to the name by the way)
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 13, 2014 0:22:44 GMT -5
To rephrase, the false prophet isn't the Antichrist, I was referring to the beast only. And why is the beast the Antichrist and not say the false prophet or even Satan?(All three have falsely been attributed to the name by the way) I don't know why people say Satan is the Antichrist. I've done some studying in the book of Revelation, and as it turns out, the the beast of the sea is described as the false prophet, and the beast of the earth is described as the Antichrist. I would suggest reading it. Chapter 13.
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 13, 2014 13:17:52 GMT -5
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Post by wildknight on Jul 13, 2014 13:22:13 GMT -5
And why is the beast the Antichrist and not say the false prophet or even Satan?(All three have falsely been attributed to the name by the way) I don't know why people say Satan is the Antichrist. I've done some studying in the book of Revelation, and as it turns out, the the beast of the sea is described as the false prophet, and the beast of the earth is described as the Antichrist. I would suggest reading it. Chapter 13. Exegesis of the Book of Revelation is all over the place. Most traditions favor VERY uneven reading of the book, which leads to a number of false beliefs about what is being described in the Book. I'm going to avoid commenting in order to avoid stepping in the toes of anyone's particular tradition here (suffice it to say, if you embrace any sort of millenialist/dispensationalist theology, I disagree strongly with how you've been taught to read the Book of Revelation), but I am going to say that to read the book and assume that the events being described are one-time historical (or future) events that can easily be pinned down is wrong. 8)
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