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Post by justinlynch3 on Dec 5, 2013 23:22:07 GMT -5
If it came to a point in time where the market could only support 1, who would thrive and who would die?
Would Sony be the sole dominate console with the Playstation? Would Microsoft reign supreme with the XBOX? Or would Nintendo return to their former glory as the ultimate gaming device?
If there could only be 1, who do you, in a unbiased as possible opinion, think think it would be?
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 6, 2013 1:10:05 GMT -5
I, on a completely bias thought I admit, think Sony would win.
Good thing about it all?
I like both Sony and Microsoft so I wouldn't care either way.
Nintendo definitely wouldn't win.
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 6, 2013 3:43:11 GMT -5
You're talking about the new generation of consoles? If for some reason there was consumer disinterest or a financial issue that caused the industry to suddenly support only one of the three main machines starting right now? Well, right now, in today's current console climate, the PS4 is the one that would survive. Nintendo's recent systems have underperformed according to the company's own projections and the WiiU certainly doesn't have a reputation as a "hardcore" gaming system among the public. As for the Xbox One, there's still simply too much bad will towards that system. Price would also be a factor and Sony is ahead in that respect as well.
I don't own any of these systems, if my interest was there I'd have picked one up by now. And all of this could potentially change at any time- Microsoft could win back its audience, Sony could drop the ball, Nintendo could pull off something amazing. But as of right now, whether it's fair or deserved, the PS4 is the system that has the lion's share of public support.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 6, 2013 11:55:01 GMT -5
Right now the PS4 and Xbox One are at a complete tie. At first I was positive the PS4 would win, based on all of the Internet reactions, but now as I look at kids at my school, I realize how completely blind most people are.
I actually got into an argument with someone who thought the Xbox One was 300 dollars and the PS4 was 500, no joke. The kind of blind fanboying that each side has disgusts me, and it will lead to neither console really pulling out ahead anytime soon(Especially seeing as most of the intelligent consumers are waiting a year or two to get one). My hypothesis is that they will stay head to head for at least a year, and that by next year the console that has proven to be the best in the past year judging by critics and audience and many other factors will be the one that pulls out ahead.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 6, 2013 11:59:48 GMT -5
You're talking about the new generation of consoles? If for some reason there was consumer disinterest or a financial issue that caused the industry to suddenly support only one of the three main machines starting right now? Well, right now, in today's current console climate, the PS4 is the one that would survive. Nintendo's recent systems have underperformed according to the company's own projections and the WiiU certainly doesn't have a reputation as a "hardcore" gaming system among the public. As for the Xbox One, there's still simply too much bad will towards that system. Price would also be a factor and Sony is ahead in that respect as well. I don't own any of these systems, if my interest was there I'd have picked one up by now. And all of this could potentially change at any time- Microsoft could win back its audience, Sony could drop the ball, Nintendo could pull off something amazing. But as of right now, whether it's fair or deserved, the PS4 is the system that has the lion's share of public support. Also a thing you are not counting is how game industry heavy each company is. If the industry went into a bad slope Microsoft would surely quit the field because they would realize that there isn't as much profit to be made there anymore. Sony however would stay the field and continue to battle it out and try too bring the industry back. Nintendo would try, but the lapse would hit them too hard and they would go out of business. This would then leave only Sony and Valve, who would then proceed to battle it out, with Valve turning out to be the winner. After this Valve will be the sole company around which will cause even greater disinterest in the gaming industry, further causing it to slump. Soon Valve would leave the gaming industry as well and would pursue some other technical things. Eventually a few new companies would arrive and the industry would be revived. |
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Dec 6, 2013 12:00:40 GMT -5
I basically agree with what Mike said above.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 6, 2013 12:02:18 GMT -5
I basically agree with what Mike said above. I believe my hypothesis is more accurate for the scenario that Mike stated. Sure he was right about the PS4 winning, but for the wrong reasons. |
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Dec 6, 2013 12:03:47 GMT -5
I basically agree with what Mike said above. I believe my hypothesis is more accurate for the scenario that Mike stated. Sure he was right about the PS4 winning, but for the wrong reasons. You certainly made some good points Especially with Valve and Sony eventually battling it out. |
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Post by justinlynch3 on Dec 6, 2013 12:14:45 GMT -5
What is Valve doing that you'd think they would end on top?
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 6, 2013 12:38:14 GMT -5
What is Valve doing that you'd think they would end on top? The big sales that they have. If the industry went into a slump that would be the main thing that would keep them alive through it. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Dec 6, 2013 12:39:34 GMT -5
Valve's fanboyism is disgusting. Yes, I like Portal and Portal 2, but nothing else. I'm not a fanboy, and they have the potential to be good, but where does all of the fanboyism come from?
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 6, 2013 12:43:40 GMT -5
Valve's fanboyism is disgusting. Yes, I like Portal and Portal 2, but nothing else. I'm not a fanboy, and they have the potential to be good, but where does all of the fanboyism come from? Sales and Half Life. Also they pretty much own PC gaming now, so all PC gamers bow down before their feet like a bunch of uneducated peasants. |
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Post by setokaiba on Dec 6, 2013 17:24:34 GMT -5
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 6, 2013 18:19:08 GMT -5
I basically agree with what Mike said above. I believe my hypothesis is more accurate for the scenario that Mike stated. Sure he was right about the PS4 winning, but for the wrong reasons. You brought up a good point but I stand by my reasons, I see no evidence anywhere to suggest that the public has done a sharp turnaround and embraced the Xbox 1 with any particular fervor. They're selling, sure, but so are the other systems. There's no indication that Microsoft has fully recovered and won back the audience that they lost. |
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 6, 2013 18:20:59 GMT -5
Valve's fanboyism is disgusting. Yes, I like Portal and Portal 2, but nothing else. I'm not a fanboy, and they have the potential to be good, but where does all of the fanboyism come from? Sales and Half Life. Also they pretty much own PC gaming now, so all PC gamers bow down before their feet like a bunch of uneducated peasants. Unless you're like me and you go out of your way to disable their Steam bullshit because you feel like (A) playing games without mandatory bullshit third-party interference and (B) giving big fat fuck you to Valve. |
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Post by charliebucketsgranpa on Dec 6, 2013 18:23:45 GMT -5
The only Valve game I've played is Portal and it was good from what I played but I only played an hour or two.
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Post by pinksparklepuff on Dec 6, 2013 18:26:54 GMT -5
As of right now, on this day, starting here, I can't remember how long the promo was so I'm going to continue on with this nonsense, I say Sony.
Nintendo has the portable department under wraps though.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 6, 2013 20:28:00 GMT -5
You brought up a good point but I stand by my reasons, I see no evidence anywhere to suggest that the public has done a sharp turnaround and embraced the Xbox 1 with any particular fervor. They're selling, sure, but so are the other systems. There's no indication that Microsoft has fully recovered and won back the audience that they lost. ... that's because there's no evidence that they actually lost any. Every single report of mass canceled pre-orders, etc, turned out to be utter bullshit. The pre-order cancel rate for both consoles was virtually identical. In terms of actual sales numbers, hard data is hard to come by, but it appears that PS4 had a much stronger opening, but One kicked PS4's ass all over Black Friday, making it a virtual toss up. Add in the simple fact that PS4 was out sooner (and by God, if I've learned nothing else from Sony fanboys, it's that being out first automatically means that console sells more, because man have I heard that excuse bleated by the sheep more times than I can count when PS3 vs. 360 numbers get brought out...) and was $100 cheaper, and there doesn't seem to be any objective indication that Microsoft lost anything... other than the "popularity on the internet" war, which means exactly jack and squat. |
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 6, 2013 20:42:44 GMT -5
There's no way to quantify how many people chose not to purchase an Xbox One.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 6, 2013 21:09:56 GMT -5
There's no way to quantify how many people chose not to purchase an Xbox One. Right. Because it's logical to believe that they were on pace to wipe Sony out of the market, which is what they would have done if they'd lost sales in the kind of numbers you're suggesting 8) |
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