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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 7, 2013 0:21:19 GMT -5
Hmm, funny that you mention it. Last week I picked up AC IV because, exactly like your Fire Pro scenario, I thought that I should give the series that I didn't like another chance. I haven't bothered to check it out yet because I'm such a hardcore Christmas nut that I kind of resist indulging in summery, tropical games that make me feel less immersed in the season (I think I've subconsciously stayed away from GTA V a bit this week for that very reason). I really should get into it but I suppose I don't feel like there's any great hurry to do so.
You'll have to tell me if Fire Pro is any good. As I was saying to the guys earlier, I want to like that game but the dumbass grappling gimmick has always stopped me from doing so.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 7, 2013 0:24:23 GMT -5
Hmm, funny that you mention it. Last week I picked up AC IV because, exactly like your Fire Pro scenario, I thought that I should give the series that I didn't like another chance. I haven't bothered to check it out yet because I'm such a hardcore Christmas nut that I kind of resist indulging in summery, tropical games that make me feel less immersed in the season (I think I've subconsciously stayed away from GTA V a bit this week for that very reason). I really should get into it but I suppose I don't feel like there's any great hurry to do so. You are, truly, a dork. 8) The reviews I read for ACIV were mostly disappointing, but the piracy angle was more interesting to me than the pissed off Indian angle (ACIII), and III was only $10 cheaper at any rate. |
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 7, 2013 0:36:42 GMT -5
I am an unabashed and proud super Christmas dork of the highest order.  I heard AC 1 was okay, a decent game that became successful mostly due to the love of a devoted cult of fans willing to overlook its flaws. Then I heard AC II was the best thing since mother's gift of life, AC III was relatively lame, and AC IV is something of a return to form but regardless I need to get it because it sure do look purty. Like you, it was basically the pirate angle alone that interested me. Any game that's review contains a Monkey Island reference is going to pique my interest. Having said that, I think fair apprehension is another reason why I'm holding back on actually playing it. I really wasn't impressed by this series at all, and the second game is the one that I played. Imagine my surprise when I was led to believe that the title was some completely open-world free-roaming stealth game and was instead met with a game where venturing too far would make it warn me that I was about to break the connection to the science-fiction story that was all too eager to ensure that I passed ninth grade Italian history class. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 7, 2013 0:38:10 GMT -5
The history angle is a huge part of what made ACII work for me. It was well-woven.
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 7, 2013 1:12:49 GMT -5
It could very well have been, I was way too distracted by it because I didn't expect it at all. It's my own fault for not reading the reviews but whatever, I only rented the game on the advice of my friends, all of whom raved that it was this wonderful stealth adventure game and none of whom bothered to mention that there was this big science-fiction wraparound tying the whole thing together. It was jarring.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 7, 2013 1:13:03 GMT -5
I try to ignore the science fiction stuff. I'm not a fan
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Post by WSS? on Dec 7, 2013 1:18:23 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure NO ONE likes the Sci-Fi sections in AC. Heck, didn't they take it out after III?
By the way, Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood is one of my favorite games of all time, but for some reason it's the only one in the series that I've played.
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 7, 2013 1:23:20 GMT -5
I try to ignore the science fiction stuff. I'm not a fan Isn't that what the whole thing is about though? The main character is reliving the history of this assassin (and DaVinci, for some reason) because it has something to do with the futuristic society he's living in and the machine that he's hooked to in order to do it? |
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 7, 2013 1:25:24 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure NO ONE likes the Sci-Fi sections in AC. Heck, didn't they take it out after III? By the way, Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood is one of my favorite games of all time, but for some reason it's the only one in the series that I've played. My understanding is that they're still in IV, when I read a review of the game I was actually getting pretty excited up until I was greeted with a screenshot of some shadowy corporate executive standing in his cliche skyscraper office overlooking a modern cityscape. |
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Post by wildknight on Dec 7, 2013 7:43:50 GMT -5
Apparently in ACIV, you're some random Abstergo employee collecting historical memories for them to sell commercially.
I don't know... for me, the stuff in the present is obtrusive, but not enough so that it ruins the experience of playing the game. The vast bulk of the game is spent as your character, and yes, the present sometimes intrudes as voice-overs and silly things like borders you can't cross, etc... but there's still something that I really enjoyed about ACII letting me approach objectives in my own way, and IMO, the controls are virtually seamless, which is beautiful.
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Post by miketheratguy on Dec 7, 2013 8:57:54 GMT -5
I literally didn't get far enough into ACII to get to any real objectives or interesting stuff. It was just "don't cross this area, you'll be jacked out of the matrix" and some fetch quest about delivering groceries to one of DaVinci's friends or something. I honestly don't remember. I spent most of my time just pointlessly running around rooftops and walls for an hour or two, getting sick of it, then punching a few innocent people and fairly easily evading the guards. It didn't really hook me.
Maybe the new one will be better, I dunno. Though I was pretty disappointed to see the modern crap making a return, I really don't like my pirate games to be bookended by science fiction thrillers but I'm kind of weird like that.
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Dec 7, 2013 11:30:29 GMT -5
AC IV is basically them taking the most praised aspect of 3 and then revolving the entire game around that one aspect.
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Post by wildknight on Dec 7, 2013 12:24:15 GMT -5
My understanding is that the "present" elements of ACIV are pretty limited, more so than in I and II, but you'll always have things like the borders you can't cross, and the "de-synchronizing" effects, because that's what the game series is, more or less.
The funny thing if that I remember when ACI (which SUCKED, IMO) came out, some friends of mine were going on and on about how clever they'd been in "hiding" the invisible walls of the world by saying that they didn't have sufficient memories to build that area, using de-synchronization to explain why you essentially had unlimited lives, etc, and I thought "that's going to get old real quick."
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