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Post by muta75 on Jan 25, 2014 14:11:48 GMT -5
or, perhaps you missed the fact that of the two, one triggers a negative reaction and the other doesn't... Uses pot and enjoys it. No positive reaction. Never used pot, absolutely must hate pot. step 1. remove head from ass step 2. locate clue step 3. repeat steps 1 & 2 until you no longer suck |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 14:12:21 GMT -5
So it's Settled Shawn Waltman = Saint
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Post by muta75 on Jan 25, 2014 14:13:35 GMT -5
So you have smoked pot and see no problems with it. That's something called extreme bias. I feel like you think the word "bias" means somebody that follows what they believe and doesn't believe the same thing as Soon. for example, I like Peanut Butter so I eat it daily. You hate it. You say it's bad for you, I say it's good for you. You say, "You're just being biased." I know, that's a bit different than pot, but nonetheless it has the same meaning. He wasn't being biased, he was stating his opinion, something you and WK seem to have a problem with (his opinion, not the fact that he stated his opinion). he must have missed the part where i stated that alcohol is a trigger for my addiction, but marijuana isn't. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 25, 2014 14:13:45 GMT -5
He's no saint, by far.... Also, Soon and Muta, don't start an argument. Debating is fine, but we don't want another argument  |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 25, 2014 14:14:04 GMT -5
It's not the vagina that makes it abuse, it's the relationship. Hitting your wife is abuse, period. No more than hitting your husband. Child. Doctor, police officer, fireman, etc. As I said, possession of a vagina does not inherently mean that it's "abuse" the second that someone raises a hand towards you. ... and that's where you're wrong. Abuse has a specific definition as understood by western culture for around 1,000 years, and it is relative to the relationship. Your spouse or child? Yes. A fireman? Not unless they're also your spouse or a child 8) |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 25, 2014 14:15:14 GMT -5
... it's not rhetoric to point out that the sources that have claimed marijuana to be "harmless" and "unaddictive" are junk science. It's factual. everything is addictive. how much money do we as a populous spend on fast food? facts..between marijuana and alcohol one causes liver disease, heart disease and brain cancer..the other is marijuana.. Your first argument is why I said I would support marijuana legalization if there weren't so many lies attached to the legalization movement. Your second argument is why I said there are so many lies attached to the legalization movement. Marijuana has massive long term health repercussions. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 25, 2014 14:15:50 GMT -5
He's no saint, by far.... Also, Soon and Muta, don't start an argument. Debating is fine, but we don't want another argument What? Debating is fine, but arguing is not... |
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Post by muta75 on Jan 25, 2014 14:16:32 GMT -5
everything is addictive. how much money do we as a populous spend on fast food? facts..between marijuana and alcohol one causes liver disease, heart disease and brain cancer..the other is marijuana.. Your first argument is why I said I would support marijuana legalization if there weren't so many lies attached to the legalization movement. Your second argument is why I said there are so many lies attached to the legalization movement. Marijuana has massive long term health repercussions. so says your "factual" and "scientific" sources.. |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 25, 2014 14:16:49 GMT -5
He wasn't being biased, he was stating his opinion, something you and WK seem to have a problem with (his opinion, not the fact that he stated his opinion). I DO have a problem with opinions that are held in defiance of all relative evidence. Thank you for noticing. Choosing ignorance is a uniquely human behavior that I'll never comprehend. |
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Post by wildknight on Jan 25, 2014 14:17:31 GMT -5
so says your "factual" and "scientific" sources.. ... so say ALL factual and scientific sources. The effects of marijuana use on your brain are not in dispute by anyone with a lick of sense. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 25, 2014 14:17:51 GMT -5
He's no saint, by far.... Also, Soon and Muta, don't start an argument. Debating is fine, but we don't want another argument What? Debating is fine, but arguing is not... ...... Debating is a formal and friendly discussion on a subject. Arguing is disagreeing in a heated or agnry manner |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 25, 2014 14:18:12 GMT -5
So using personal opinion in regards to an argument which can be proven false using scientific evidence isn't bias?
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Post by SoonDragon67 on Jan 25, 2014 14:19:35 GMT -5
What? Debating is fine, but arguing is not... ...... Debating is a formal and friendly discussion on a subject. Arguing is disagreeing in a heated or agnry manner No, they're interchangeable words. Arguing IS debating, and debating IS arguing. There is no difference. I know what you mean, but your sentence was poorly worded. |
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Post by BaneTheDestroyer on Jan 25, 2014 14:19:40 GMT -5
I have yet to see any proof from anybody. Maybe I missed it while I wasn't on, but nonetheless the words "factual" and "sources" are just as irrelevant as saying somebody's opinion (which everybody is stating) is bias.
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Post by miketheratguy on Jan 25, 2014 14:20:01 GMT -5
Bane is simply saying that we shouldn't turn this into a belligerent discussion and I agree.
As much fun as this has been (?) we're all just spinning our wheels so I'm off to play some GTA. If we've established anything that we can all agree on here, it's that there's no reason to go to live events because the shows suck nowadays and nobody likes them.
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Post by muta75 on Jan 25, 2014 14:20:50 GMT -5
So using personal opinion in regards to an argument which can be proven false using scientific evidence isn't bias? science proves that certain people can't eat nuts or wheat, does that make nuts and wheat bad for everyone? is that being biased. and you still fail to see the point of what i posted...nothing new there.. |
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Post by muta75 on Jan 25, 2014 14:23:04 GMT -5
Bane is simply saying that we shouldn't turn this into a belligerent discussion and I agree. As much fun as this has been (?) we're all just spinning our wheels so I'm off to play some GTA. If we've established anything that we can all agree on here, it's that there's no reason to go to live events because the shows suck nowadays and nobody likes them. i'd join you on GTA, but you deleted me...ass |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 14:25:31 GMT -5
So here's the deal with me before I tap out of this conversation once and for all. I tend to agree with Knight's final destination on the subject being pot should be legal for those adults who want to smoke it, and in making it legal we must all agree that the recreational use of it is no longer considered socially deviant.Then pass according laws to accommodate such a matter(correct me if I'm wrong in assuming this is how you feel about it. I don't want to speak for you if I'm cloudy on my understanding on your stance) Our differing moral compass took us down different paths to get there. We could argue all day on morality, character, and ethics but these are going to come down to the barometers we set for ourselves as to what is moral, and ethical . We could all site statistics that support our stances on the subject (each supporting their own agendas). We are not going to change each others mind on the subject. it has been fun and insightful. I will let you know that I do not smoke pot (did for many years but no longer do). I just pretty much want my government to pick up my trash, protect me from enemies both foreign and domestic, and then pretty much stay the $#@! out of my business.
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Post by wildknight on Jan 25, 2014 14:48:31 GMT -5
So using personal opinion in regards to an argument which can be proven false using scientific evidence isn't bias? science proves that certain people can't eat nuts or wheat, does that make nuts and wheat bad for everyone? is that being biased. and you still fail to see the point of what i posted...nothing new there.. So now you're comparing addiction and long-term health affects to allergies? Seriously? Look, the fact of the matter, whether you want to acknowledge it or not, is that yes, for everyone using marijuana has long-term health repercussions, most notably and dangerously it will alter your brain chemistry. Nobody is secretly immune from this, and it's ridiculous for you to claim otherwise. The fact that it's addictive affects don't have a strong hold on you is neither here more there. I was able to quit cigarettes cold turkey. That doesn't mean they weren't terrible for my lungs. Heck yes. |
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Post by muta75 on Jan 25, 2014 21:22:06 GMT -5
and, you constantly seem to want to ignore the fact the alcohol damages more of the body than marijuana does.
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