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Post by miketheratguy on May 5, 2014 17:09:56 GMT -5
I AM a Fett fanboy, and I actually agree with this. I'm fine with the way he died. He wasn't important to the story, he was just a dude who was there. Wasn't LucasArts planning some big PC game behind Fett's origins before they got acquired by Disney Didn't that come out? As far as I knew there was indeed a Boba Fett-themed game that was released around 2008 or so. Might even have been called "Star Wars: Bounty Hunter" or something like that. I don't know for sure, my Star Wars PC interest more or less begins and ends with Battlefront. |
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Post by monkeywool on May 5, 2014 17:11:03 GMT -5
Weird thing is how Lucas marketed Darth Maul as a huge role, at least over here and made out like he was an iconic character in the prequel trilogy. Only for him to be killed as soon as possible. Oh no, he was pushed hard here too. He was all over the print ads, the cups, the trailers, and so forth. The novelization of the movie came with several different covers and the one that featured his face supposedly outsold the others like four to one. Indeed, then he was promptly dead by a pissed off Ewan McGregor in pretty much the only meaningful fight he had. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 5, 2014 17:11:11 GMT -5
Wasn't LucasArts planning some big PC game behind Fett's origins before they got acquired by Disney Didn't that come out? As far as I knew there was indeed a Boba Fett-themed game that was released around 2008 or so. Might even have been called "Star Wars: Bounty Hunter" or something like that. I don't know for sure, my Star Wars PC interest more or less begins and ends with Battlefront. I've only ever like the Battlefront and Knights of the Old Republic series. |
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Post by skylerb97 on May 5, 2014 17:11:54 GMT -5
Wasn't LucasArts planning some big PC game behind Fett's origins before they got acquired by Disney It was more so about the Star Wars underworld in general. At least I assume you speak of Star Wars 1313. that's what I meant. It always seemed like Fett was a big part of it so that's just what I remember it as |
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Post by miketheratguy on May 5, 2014 17:13:32 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I had all the original Star Wars action figures growing up and Boba Fett was my favorite. But I didn't labor under the delusion that he was an incredibly important character whose death pulled the rug out from under me in some kind of legendary "fuck you". I just thought he looked neat. Hell, my other favorite figures were Ree-Yees and the Gamorrean Guard, the latter of which I lost before eventually discovering that his death was at the hands of my dad's lawnmower. When I started getting into the EU, I had a moment of bewilderment when I discovered that there was a huge mythology built up around Boba Fett. I did end up really liking the Mandalorians in general and some of the background stories they wrote for Fett, but I still never got on board with bringing him back from the dead, as if somehow he was "too good" for the death he got. I can appreciate that the extensive EU canon gives fans more of a reason to care about the guy and that he's been turned into some kind of legendary folk anti-hero. I can only go by the movies themselves because at the time, that's all that I and everyone else had to go on. And as far as the movies are concerned, you're right: He was just some dude who was not somehow "too good" for the death that he was given. I think that's what bugs me- not that so many people are into him, that's fine- but that so many people (including but not limited to those who developed his EU background) have applied all this importance to him retroactively. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 5, 2014 17:13:39 GMT -5
It was more so about the Star Wars underworld in general. At least I assume you speak of Star Wars 1313. that's what I meant. It always seemed like Fett was a big part of it so that's just what I remember it as I don't think Fett was, I think it was more so the bounty hunters(Which Mandalorians usually are) that were a major part of the story. Actually I don't think he was ever meant to be in the game at all... |
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Post by monkeywool on May 5, 2014 17:15:47 GMT -5
I'm still of the opinion that everything outside of the movies isn't really there. EU is just basically licenced fan fiction and doesn't really take a place in the story for me.
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Post by skylerb97 on May 5, 2014 17:16:41 GMT -5
that's what I meant. It always seemed like Fett was a big part of it so that's just what I remember it as I don't think Fett was, I think it was more so the bounty hunters(Which Mandalorians usually are) that were a major part of the story. Actually I don't think he was ever meant to be in the game at all... almost everything I've found since the cancellation mentions Fett was supposed to be the protagonist. But that might've just been a way to get people to care about the game |
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Post by miketheratguy on May 5, 2014 17:16:53 GMT -5
Oh no, he was pushed hard here too. He was all over the print ads, the cups, the trailers, and so forth. The novelization of the movie came with several different covers and the one that featured his face supposedly outsold the others like four to one. Indeed, then he was promptly dead by a pissed off Ewan McGregor in pretty much the only meaningful fight he had. His one-on-one with Obi-Wan IS my favorite duel in the prequel trilogy, but other than killing Qui-Gon he sure didn't amount to a whole lot. Didn't that come out? As far as I knew there was indeed a Boba Fett-themed game that was released around 2008 or so. Might even have been called "Star Wars: Bounty Hunter" or something like that. I don't know for sure, my Star Wars PC interest more or less begins and ends with Battlefront. I've only ever like the Battlefront and Knights of the Old Republic series. I've only ever heard (and certainly believe) that KOTOR is an amazing series, but my copy is for the Xbox and I never really played it anyway so I don't really equate it with the PC myself. Unless you're talking about SW games in general, in which case Shadows of the Empire was supposed to be really good and the trilogy for the Super Nintendo was great for its time. |
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Post by monkeywool on May 5, 2014 17:18:50 GMT -5
Indeed, then he was promptly dead by a pissed off Ewan McGregor in pretty much the only meaningful fight he had. His one-on-one with Obi-Wan IS my favorite duel in the prequel trilogy, but other than killing Qui-Gon he sure didn't amount to a whole lot. I've only ever like the Battlefront and Knights of the Old Republic series. I've only ever heard (and certainly believe) that KOTOR is an amazing series, but my copy is for the Xbox and I never really played it anyway so I don't really equate it with the PC myself. Unless you're talking about SW games in general, in which case Shadows of the Empire was supposed to be really good and the trilogy for the Super Nintendo was great for its time. Dude, just buy it (and kotor 2) for the PC. They're on steam regularly for like £4 for both, ridiculously cheap. |
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Post by skylerb97 on May 5, 2014 17:19:16 GMT -5
Is the Force Unleashed worth the time of a casual Star Wars fan? I always heard it was fun enough for what it was trying to accomplish
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 5, 2014 17:20:14 GMT -5
His one-on-one with Obi-Wan IS my favorite duel in the prequel trilogy, but other than killing Qui-Gon he sure didn't amount to a whole lot. I've only ever heard (and certainly believe) that KOTOR is an amazing series, but my copy is for the Xbox and I never really played it anyway so I don't really equate it with the PC myself. Unless you're talking about SW games in general, in which case Shadows of the Empire was supposed to be really good and the trilogy for the Super Nintendo was great for its time. Dude, just buy it (and kotor 2) for the PC. They're on steam regularly for like £4 for both, ridiculously cheap. Did you just tell Mike to use Steam? *Runs for cover* |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 5, 2014 17:20:25 GMT -5
Is the Force Unleashed worth the time of a casual Star Wars fan? I always heard it was fun enough for what it was trying to accomplish No. |
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Post by skylerb97 on May 5, 2014 17:21:53 GMT -5
Is the Force Unleashed worth the time of a casual Star Wars fan? I always heard it was fun enough for what it was trying to accomplish No. eh now I'll just eventually buy it to see if it's that much of a train wreck (although I'm in no hurry) |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 17:21:56 GMT -5
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Post by miketheratguy on May 5, 2014 17:22:07 GMT -5
I'm still of the opinion that everything outside of the movies isn't really there. EU is just basically licenced fan fiction and doesn't really take a place in the story for me. I'm exactly the same. If Lucas or his underlings want to briefly peruse and put a stamp on all the acceptable content that other people want to add to the Star Wars universe that's his prerogative but as far as I'm concerned the only things that are official canon are the movies and whatever blurbs Lucasfilm released in direct relation to them. Besides, how can I trust that the EU is canon when Lucas himself can't even stick to a single explanation of the series' origins? "This was always meant to be a story of a boy and his sister". You know what, my ass it was. I saw A New Hope. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 17:26:21 GMT -5
The EU isn't canon anymore, due to Disney.
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Post by miketheratguy on May 5, 2014 17:26:40 GMT -5
His one-on-one with Obi-Wan IS my favorite duel in the prequel trilogy, but other than killing Qui-Gon he sure didn't amount to a whole lot. I've only ever heard (and certainly believe) that KOTOR is an amazing series, but my copy is for the Xbox and I never really played it anyway so I don't really equate it with the PC myself. Unless you're talking about SW games in general, in which case Shadows of the Empire was supposed to be really good and the trilogy for the Super Nintendo was great for its time. Dude, just buy it (and kotor 2) for the PC. They're on steam regularly for like £4 for both, ridiculously cheap. I already got pirated copies of the games like five years ago for a price that was even less than that. I just never played them, I need to be in a certain mood. I can't want to play a game, I have to be prepared to listen to an audiobook. |
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Post by skylerb97 on May 5, 2014 17:26:49 GMT -5
I'm still of the opinion that everything outside of the movies isn't really there. EU is just basically licenced fan fiction and doesn't really take a place in the story for me. I'm exactly the same. If Lucas or his underlings want to briefly peruse and put a stamp on all the acceptable content that other people want to add to the Star Wars universe that's his prerogative but as far as I'm concerned the only things that are official canon are the movies and whatever blurbs Lucasfilm released in direct relation to them. Besides, how can I trust that the EU is canon when Lucas himself can't even stick to a single explanation of the series' origins? "This was always meant to be a story of a boy and his sister". You know what, my ass it was. I saw A New Hope. I don't even think Lucas knows what Star Wars was meant to be anymore |
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Post by miketheratguy on May 5, 2014 17:29:31 GMT -5
Is the Force Unleashed worth the time of a casual Star Wars fan? I always heard it was fun enough for what it was trying to accomplish The first few minutes of TFU allow you to play as Vader with full force abilities and fuck shit up. It's giddy geeky fun. Then the game immediately puts you in control of a different character with far fewer abilities who must undergo hours of 3d platforming. I wouldn't say that you're missing much. Dude, just buy it (and kotor 2) for the PC. They're on steam regularly for like £4 for both, ridiculously cheap. Did you just tell Mike to use Steam? *Runs for cover* I'm too tired from bitching about other things lately and I like Wool too much to lay into him about Steam so I'll just take the quick route and say "Fuck Steam up its intrusive ass". |
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