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Post by WSS? on May 5, 2014 17:29:34 GMT -5
I AM a Fett fanboy, and I actually agree with this. I'm fine with the way he died. He wasn't important to the story, he was just a dude who was there. Wasn't LucasArts planning some big PC game behind Fett's origins before they got acquired by Disney I don't know about Boba, but I think I played a PS2 game that revolved around Jango Fett's backstory. |
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Post by miketheratguy on May 5, 2014 17:32:01 GMT -5
I'm exactly the same. If Lucas or his underlings want to briefly peruse and put a stamp on all the acceptable content that other people want to add to the Star Wars universe that's his prerogative but as far as I'm concerned the only things that are official canon are the movies and whatever blurbs Lucasfilm released in direct relation to them. Besides, how can I trust that the EU is canon when Lucas himself can't even stick to a single explanation of the series' origins? "This was always meant to be a story of a boy and his sister". You know what, my ass it was. I saw A New Hope. I don't even think Lucas knows what Star Wars was meant to be anymore "The Secret History of Star Wars" is an amazing book. It goes into exhaustive detail about the creation of the franchise using not just Lucas' claims but hundreds of quotes, stories, and examination of all kinds of outside material such as official releases, radio dramatizations, etc. It's incredible to look at all the clues (and straightforward evidence) and see how often Lucas' account of how the story came together has changed over the years. |
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Post by monkeywool on May 5, 2014 17:37:47 GMT -5
What's even more interesting is the lecture I got from my girlfriend who insists that one female character isn't enough in Star Wars and that it's a bit of a disgrace that the new trilogy only has one (2 if you count Fisher) in it.
I pointed out to her that it's economics and the Star Wars franchise has never really had more than 1 female character per trilogy, so why would they change it, considering the formula makes money?
I also pointed out that when you have films with more than one female lead - you end up with shite like sex in the city. If she wants more positive female role models to look up to in media, she should really get more female writers and directors in Hollywood because the ones we have there now pander to the really shite versions of women.
She didn't speak to me for about an hour after that conversation.
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Post by skylerb97 on May 5, 2014 17:37:51 GMT -5
I don't even think Lucas knows what Star Wars was meant to be anymore "The Secret History of Star Wars" is an amazing book. It goes into exhaustive detail about the creation of the franchise using not just Lucas' claims but hundreds of quotes, claims, stories, and examination of all kinds of outside material. It's incredible to see how often Lucas' official account of how the story came together has changed over the years. to be fair most of my knowledge of how ur came about comes from certain parts of The People vs. George Lucas. Which I find interesting because it provides a good enough balance if the schools of thought among Star Wars Fans. Which can be summed up as "George created Star Wars and can do with it whatever he pleases,but I don't have to like it." And "Star Wars is public domain and while the remasters and special editions are Lucas' "original vision." He should at least give fans a way to watch the version they original saw in theaters. And from what I understand George has given a few excuses as to why he can't release the originals that have pretty much been debunked |
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Post by skylerb97 on May 5, 2014 17:45:15 GMT -5
What's even more interesting is the lecture I got from my girlfriend who insists that one female character isn't enough in Star Wars and that it's a bit of a disgrace that the new trilogy only has one (2 if you count Fisher) in it. I pointed out to her that it's economics and the Star Wars franchise has never really had more than 1 female character per trilogy, so why would they change it, considering the formula makes money? I also pointed out that when you have films with more than one female lead - you end up with shite like sex in the city. If she wants more positive female role models to look up to in media, she should really get more female writers and directors in Hollywood because the ones we have there now pander to the really shite versions of women. She didn't speak to me for about an hour after that conversation. an hour just because you had a well thought our and logical point? Your girlfriends not a feminist by any chance is she? |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 17:47:54 GMT -5
What's even more interesting is the lecture I got from my girlfriend who insists that one female character isn't enough in Star Wars and that it's a bit of a disgrace that the new trilogy only has one (2 if you count Fisher) in it. I pointed out to her that it's economics and the Star Wars franchise has never really had more than 1 female character per trilogy, so why would they change it, considering the formula makes money? I also pointed out that when you have films with more than one female lead - you end up with shite like sex in the city. If she wants more positive female role models to look up to in media, she should really get more female writers and directors in Hollywood because the ones we have there now pander to the really shite versions of women. She didn't speak to me for about an hour after that conversation. an hour just because you had a well thought our and logical point? Your girlfriends not a feminist by any chance is she? I'm 99.99.99% sure she is. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 5, 2014 17:48:25 GMT -5
What's even more interesting is the lecture I got from my girlfriend who insists that one female character isn't enough in Star Wars and that it's a bit of a disgrace that the new trilogy only has one (2 if you count Fisher) in it. I pointed out to her that it's economics and the Star Wars franchise has never really had more than 1 female character per trilogy, so why would they change it, considering the formula makes money? I also pointed out that when you have films with more than one female lead - you end up with shite like sex in the city. If she wants more positive female role models to look up to in media, she should really get more female writers and directors in Hollywood because the ones we have there now pander to the really shite versions of women. She didn't speak to me for about an hour after that conversation. an hour just because you had a well thought our and logical point? Your girlfriends not a feminist by any chance is she? Nothing wrong with feminists, to a certain extent. It's when they get to the point of feminazi that they become pains in the asses. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 17:50:58 GMT -5
an hour just because you had a well thought our and logical point? Your girlfriends not a feminist by any chance is she? Nothing wrong with feminists, to a certain extent. It's when they get to the point of feminazi that they become pains in the asses. Okay, so i'm not the only one who uses feminazi for kill-all-the-man feminist. |
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Post by SoonDragon67 on May 5, 2014 17:51:00 GMT -5
What's even more interesting is the lecture I got from my girlfriend who insists that one female character isn't enough in Star Wars and that it's a bit of a disgrace that the new trilogy only has one (2 if you count Fisher) in it. I pointed out to her that it's economics and the Star Wars franchise has never really had more than 1 female character per trilogy, so why would they change it, considering the formula makes money? I also pointed out that when you have films with more than one female lead - you end up with shite like sex in the city. If she wants more positive female role models to look up to in media, she should really get more female writers and directors in Hollywood because the ones we have there now pander to the really shite versions of women. She didn't speak to me for about an hour after that conversation.  |
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Post by skylerb97 on May 5, 2014 17:52:52 GMT -5
an hour just because you had a well thought our and logical point? Your girlfriends not a feminist by any chance is she? Nothing wrong with feminists, to a certain extent. It's when they get to the point of feminazi that they become pains in the asses. I feel the same way. I thought maybe I should've said something about the fact that I don't find the whole movement bad, just the extremist (who are extremely sexist towards men and IMO can be seen as fighting for female dominance of an industry rather than eqaulity.) there's a series of YT vids dedicated to female video game tropes for crying out loud. Despite the fact that many women have been integral parts of celebrated franchises. Heck uncharted wouldn't even exist without Amy Henning |
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Post by wildknight on May 5, 2014 17:53:24 GMT -5
Just a couple of random bits rather than responding to a whole bunch of posts...
1) Mike, you should read the Timothy Zahn Star Wars novels. Just because. They're the only SW novels I recommend to people who aren't really into the deeper lore. The Thrawn Trilogy and the Hand of Thrawn duology (he has more SW books, but they're unimportant)
2) Mandalorians are not "usually" bounty hunters. In fact, Jango Fett (and later Boba) were considered more or less traitors to their kind because they weren't part of the standing Mandalorian mercenary army. Almost all of the Mandos that Jango recruited to train the clone armies were nomads, rejects, and outcasts, because the "true" Mandalorians wanted nothing to do with him.
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Post by skylerb97 on May 5, 2014 17:53:44 GMT -5
an hour just because you had a well thought our and logical point? Your girlfriends not a feminist by any chance is she? I'm 99.99.99% sure she is. mathematical impossibility |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 17:55:26 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with feminists, to a certain extent. It's when they get to the point of feminazi that they become pains in the asses. I feel the same way. I thought maybe I should've said something about the fact that I don't find the whole movement bad, just the extremist Feminazi* |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 17:56:02 GMT -5
I'm 99.99.99% sure she is. mathematical impossibility  |
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Post by monkeywool on May 5, 2014 17:57:40 GMT -5
What's even more interesting is the lecture I got from my girlfriend who insists that one female character isn't enough in Star Wars and that it's a bit of a disgrace that the new trilogy only has one (2 if you count Fisher) in it. I pointed out to her that it's economics and the Star Wars franchise has never really had more than 1 female character per trilogy, so why would they change it, considering the formula makes money? I also pointed out that when you have films with more than one female lead - you end up with shite like sex in the city. If she wants more positive female role models to look up to in media, she should really get more female writers and directors in Hollywood because the ones we have there now pander to the really shite versions of women. She didn't speak to me for about an hour after that conversation. an hour just because you had a well thought our and logical point? Your girlfriends not a feminist by any chance is she? Ah, a slight one. She even used the "so you want our daughter (if we have one in the future) to have no role models in the media then?" To which my reply was simply. "I was hoping you'd be her role model, and she could be the person who goes and writes these stories that you would like to see." I think she was at her emotional time of the month. Hence not speaking to me. |
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Post by wildknight on May 5, 2014 17:57:41 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with feminists, to a certain extent. It's when they get to the point of feminazi that they become pains in the asses. Yes there is. "ists" usually go too far. |
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Post by skylerb97 on May 5, 2014 17:58:23 GMT -5
why would you wonder If I said it when there's. Quote of me saying it? lol. |
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Post by skylerb97 on May 5, 2014 17:59:41 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with feminists, to a certain extent. It's when they get to the point of feminazi that they become pains in the asses. Yes there is. "ists" usually go too far. let's see black Nationalist Check Feminist Check baptist Check |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 17:59:46 GMT -5
why would you wonder If I said it when there's. Quote of me saying it? lol. That link is broken. Please use this one instead: Thanks. -The Forum Team |
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Post by skylerb97 on May 5, 2014 18:03:00 GMT -5
an hour just because you had a well thought our and logical point? Your girlfriends not a feminist by any chance is she? Ah, a slight one. She even used the "so you want our daughter (if we have one in the future) to have no role models in the media then?" To which my reply was simply. "I was hoping you'd be her role model, and she could be the person who goes and writes these stories that you would like to see." I think she was at her emotional time of the month. Hence not speaking to me. My response would be "it's the media, they've pretty much made every group of people look bad at some point or another, and I'd rather her have a role model whose a real life person |
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