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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 16:00:09 GMT -5
They can hold the best offense to 8 points and did. Payton was throwing the ball just fine, Seahawks just broke the plays up. Wilson threw his fair share of bad passes, Denver didn't capitalize the way the Seahawks did. *eyeroll* Yeah... no. I love how none of your arguments have anything to do with the actual game as it was played. Apparently when you can't attack the facts you attack the person instead ("you must be deluded" you say). All the while completely ignoring the fact that the Seahawks beat the Broncos by manning the receivers, bringing pressure, and causing turnovers. Those things all happened. That is why they won. It is irrational logic that to proclaim that just because they ran the same defense for four years it should imply that they should have been undefeated for four years. There are excellent defensive schemes that must also be executed in order for them to be successful. Last night they did just that. They went out there and outplayed The Denver Broncos pain and simple. If you didn't watch with you own two eyes the Seahawks Cover the receivers to the point that Manning had to hold on to the ball forcing him to make throws he otherwise would not have tried, The seahawks cause turnovers with the very same pressure, and the Seahawks, and then capitalize on those plays then you weren't paying much attention to the game.
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Post by Gmensox007 on Feb 3, 2014 16:01:30 GMT -5
what? ? i mean i think he gets overrated alot by the media & his fanboys but to say he sucks is just dumb. peyton is a one of kind qb that broke about every qb record there is , if not all. hes easily in my top 5 GOAT qb list How can he be GOAT with only 1 Super Bowl? LOL Here's the thing. There are stats guys, and there are winners. Manning is a stats guy. Give me a winner any day. Like Eli.......LOL
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Post by wildknight on Feb 3, 2014 16:01:42 GMT -5
i mean yea with the gimmies & gifts seattle had in the game but you & some others are discrediting how good the seattle defense really is. No, we're acknowledging that the best offense in the NFL did not show up at that game. Your ridiculous pride in Seattle as if you were somehow on the team is making you incapable of recognizing that Seattle held a half-assed, dispirited, downright pathetic version of the Broncos last night to 8 points. If Denver had showed up to play, the game would have been entertaining to watch.
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Post by stewie34732 on Feb 3, 2014 16:03:28 GMT -5
what? ? i mean i think he gets overrated alot by the media & his fanboys but to say he sucks is just dumb. peyton is a one of kind qb that broke about every qb record there is , if not all. hes easily in my top 5 GOAT qb list How can he be GOAT with only 1 Super Bowl? LOL Here's the thing. There are stats guys, and there are winners. Manning is a stats guy. Give me a winner any day. ^^^^^ the dumbest thing you have ever said that i have witness......... so is bill russel better than micheal jordan just because bill got more ring than jordan?? its not all about the rings!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 16:03:32 GMT -5
i mean yea with the gimmies & gifts seattle had in the game but you & some others are discrediting how good the seattle defense really is. No, we're acknowledging that the best offense in the NFL did not show up at that game. Your ridiculous pride in Seattle as if you were somehow on the team is making you incapable of recognizing that Seattle held a half-assed, dispirited, downright pathetic version of the Broncos last night to 8 points. If Denver had showed up to play, the game would have been entertaining to watch. Nobody's arguing that the game could have been far more entertaining to watch had it been a closer game.
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Post by wildknight on Feb 3, 2014 16:04:01 GMT -5
I love how none of your arguments have anything to do with the actual game as it was played. I love how I've repeatedly pointed out the MASSIVE flaw in the logic you and the others are using, and the second I get tired of wasting my time trying to explain it to you, you act as if I've made no points the entire time. ... which, for the record, is pretty typical. You guys hate that you can't get over the hump of logical debate, so instead you cry because I laughed at you.
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Post by wildknight on Feb 3, 2014 16:04:49 GMT -5
No, we're acknowledging that the best offense in the NFL did not show up at that game. Your ridiculous pride in Seattle as if you were somehow on the team is making you incapable of recognizing that Seattle held a half-assed, dispirited, downright pathetic version of the Broncos last night to 8 points. If Denver had showed up to play, the game would have been entertaining to watch. Nobody's arguing that the game could have been far more entertaining to watch had it been a closer game. No, you're arguing that Denver was incapable of playing a better game, which is equally ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 16:06:34 GMT -5
I love how none of your arguments have anything to do with the actual game as it was played. I love how I've repeatedly pointed out the MASSIVE flaw in the logic you and the others are using, and the second I get tired of wasting my time trying to explain it to you, you act as if I've made no points the entire time. ... which, for the record, is pretty typical. You guys hate that you can't get over the hump of logical debate, so instead you cry because I laughed at you. You've made absolutely no point. All you did was make proclamations that you can't back up with facts like you usually do.
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Post by wildknight on Feb 3, 2014 16:06:52 GMT -5
How can he be GOAT with only 1 Super Bowl? LOL Here's the thing. There are stats guys, and there are winners. Manning is a stats guy. Give me a winner any day. ^^^^^ the dumbest thing you have ever said that i have witness......... so is bill russel better than micheal jordan just because bill got more ring than jordan?? its not all about the rings!!!!! It's not "all about" the rings, but the rings do count. Manning has had 3 Super Bowls, and won one of them. Feel free to be in denial about the fact that there are all kinds of guys who look great on paper but don't produce in the real world (I'm a Lions fan, I know all about them... $#@!ing Stafford), it fits in with the rest of your delusions about how football works. As I've said... too many moving parts for you guys.
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Post by Gmensox007 on Feb 3, 2014 16:08:20 GMT -5
^^^^^ the dumbest thing you have ever said that i have witness......... so is bill russel better than micheal jordan just because bill got more ring than jordan?? its not all about the rings!!!!! It's not "all about" the rings, but the rings do count. Manning has had 3 Super Bowls, and won one of them. Feel free to be in denial about the fact that there are all kinds of guys who look great on paper but don't produce in the real world (I'm a Lions fan, I know all about them... $#@!ing Stafford), it fits in with the rest of your delusions about how football works. As I've said... too many moving parts for you guys. Oooh......Lions fan........I feel for ya......
and how bout dem Tigers.........BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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Post by wildknight on Feb 3, 2014 16:10:43 GMT -5
I love how I've repeatedly pointed out the MASSIVE flaw in the logic you and the others are using, and the second I get tired of wasting my time trying to explain it to you, you act as if I've made no points the entire time. ... which, for the record, is pretty typical. You guys hate that you can't get over the hump of logical debate, so instead you cry because I laughed at you. You've made absolutely no point. All you did was make proclamations that you can't back up with facts like you usually do. Let me try this one more time, even though I know from our previous conversations that I'm wasting my time. You're claiming that Seattles defense was simply SO good that Denver, despite doing their best, simply could not compensate, and got squashed, right? If I'm wrong, tell me how. I'm pointing out that, by that logic Seattles defense should have also been SO good that they squashed every other team... and by larger margins, because as I've repeatedly pointed out, the Broncos had the best offense in the league this year, and in fact broke some records. Again, if I'm wrong, I would love for you to tell me how. How is it that you cannot bring yourself to acknowledge that Denver didn't play up to their potential last night? What's your stake? I'm genuinely curious. I'm curious as to why you SO BADLY need this to be true that you're willing to ignore logic and insult me for refusing to do the same. My bet? You've got the "need to outdo WK" stick shoved so far up your ass that you're fighting blind every chance you get.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 16:21:26 GMT -5
You've made absolutely no point. All you did was make proclamations that you can't back up with facts like you usually do. Let me try this one more time, even though I know from our previous conversations that I'm wasting my time. You're claiming that Seattles defense was simply SO good that Denver, despite doing their best, simply could not compensate, and got squashed, right? If I'm wrong, tell me how. I'm pointing out that, by that logic Seattles defense should have also been SO good that they squashed every other team... and by larger margins, because as I've repeatedly pointed out, the Broncos had the best offense in the league this year, and in fact broke some records. Again, if I'm wrong, I would love for you to tell me how. How is it that you cannot bring yourself to acknowledge that Denver didn't play up to their potential last night? What's your stake? I'm genuinely curious. I'm curious as to why you SO BADLY need this to be true that you're willing to ignore logic and insult me for refusing to do the same. My bet? You've got the "need to outdo WK" stick shoved so far up your ass that you're fighting blind every chance you get. Right! Did Denver play their best game? Not likely. Did they sit on their ass and not come prepared to play in the biggest game of the year? not likely either. The fact is you threw out an inaccurate statement that the Seahawks should be ashamed that they beat a Broncos team that may has well not even shown up. You act as if they stumbled all over the field and threw the ball in the wrong direction. They clearly came to play and clearly got spanked. And it don't take much to "outdo WK". All you have to do is not follow his simple plan for acting like he can argue a point he actually knows nothing about. A.What someone doesn't know, I certainly won’t tell them. B.Don’t bother me with the facts, my mind is made up. C.If one can’t attack the data, attack the people. It is easier. You would make one hell of a Right wing talk show host with this game plan, perhaps there's radio in your future. Or at least a Great heel wrestler. D.Do one’s research by proclamation rather than investigation. It is much easier, and nobody will know the difference anyway.
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Post by wildknight on Feb 3, 2014 16:24:22 GMT -5
Right! Did Denver play their best game? Not likely Thank you. Finally. The margin of victory would beg to differ, but I'm not going to waste my time trying to get you to acknowledge that you were wrong in the first place, I could do more productive things, like teach a fly how to sing. I DO, however, find your proclamation that I am unconcerned with facts to be really rather funny. Projection is rarely so entertaining.
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Post by miketheratguy on Feb 3, 2014 16:58:42 GMT -5
Any given Sunday. I don't know why this is going any further than that, lol.
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Post by muta75 on Feb 3, 2014 19:00:52 GMT -5
Any given Sunday. I don't know why this is going any further than that, lol. because...it's foosball. stuff like this is why i don't watch anymore..
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